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26 June expansion meeting (Predictions?)

Matt_CBY

Juniors
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You've done nothing but whinge and grandstand about the Bears since you returned from hibernation.

Whether you like or not, the fact remains that the Bears have very little to offer Perth and the NRL. Bugger all money. Bugger all fans. Juniors can be provided by a number of clubs.

Contrary to the bullshit pushed by the Bears, the club doesn't have 200k fans waiting for their return. When the club existed it drew mediocre crowds to NSO. Many of their actual fans are now dead.

That’s not the conversation we are having. Stop moving the goal posts.
 

siv

First Grade
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Anyone know when the meeting was on

Or di we need read about it in News Ltd press
 
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It is common sense, we shouldn't be trying to cling to a small suburban past especially with an expansion team on the other side of the country.

This is why I've soured on the idea of linking Perth with a dead NSWRL club. It's disgusting how the Sydney media and V'landys have tried to turn expansion into a means of reviving dead NSWRL clubs and forcing them on other markets, then expecting the locals to prop them up with their money.
 

Perth Red

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Perth is another step closer to having an NRL team following a historic decision by the game’s powerbrokers on Wednesday.

An Australian Rugby League Commission meeting in Melbourne before State of Origin II is believed to have settled on a timeline to expand from the current 17 teams to 20 by 2030.

The ARLC has called for expressions of interest with interested parties asked to lodge their bids within a month. A decision is expected by October.

Perth is the front-runner to win the 18th licence as early as 2027, the last year of the current broadcast rights deal, with a team from Papua New Guinea to enter the competition in either 2028 or 2029.


A third franchise is likely to come from Christchurch on New Zealand’s south island or Queensland.

Representatives of Perth’s NRL expansion bid team will hold talks with possible suitors North Sydney Bears and Newtown Jets over the next two days.

West Australian MP Peter Tinley, chair of the government working group responsible for the bid, met with the sport’s key stakeholders on Monday in Sydney, including NRL executives and Foxtel boss Patrick Delany.

Discussions have also been held with former Parramatta coach Brad Arthur about his interest in a future role.

Arthur, whose wife is from Perth, has also been linked with Leeds Rhinos in the English Super League.

WA is believed to be the NRL’s No. 1 preference, backed by high-powered chair Peter V’Landys.


The PNG bid will be underpinned by $600 million in Federal Government funding and would be housed in a purpose-built, high-security facility in Port Moresby that would include a hotel and centre of excellence.

The WA consortium behind the bid is led by Cash Converters executive chairman Peter Cumins and remains committed to a stand-alone bid.

Freshwater Strategy, which helped the Dolphins put together the bid that secured the NRL’s 17th licence, will put together the proposal.

The Bears have been vocal about a WA union in recent months, with board member and State of Origin legend Billy Moore promising a “marriage not a takeover”.

The Jets’ bid is backed by Sydney marketing guru John Singleton.

Hungry Jack’s founder Jack Cowin is believed to have interest in supporting a WA team.

The Perth bid has the support of the broadcasters due to the favourable time zone.


It will cost an estimated $30 million to put a WA team into the competition in licence fees, players, coaching, support and administrative staff.

Freshwater Strategy director Leo Shanahan said on SEN Sydney last week unlike the PNG case, a WA bid was self-funding.

“The WA Government is hugely supportive and not in the business of propping up teams but it is our understanding it will help in terms of upgrades around HBF Park … and investment in pathways programmes for rugby league,” Shanahan said.

This is in conjunction with serious private investment around a Perth bid both from West Coast investors and those in the east.

“You have to go to the NRL with a very tight and economically viable proposal … in Perth you have all that. You have financial backing, you have serious government backing and you have a support base.”

Moore told The West Australian the Bears would look to play one or two home games at North Sydney Oval but would be a team owned by WA.

“The Bears will relocate to Perth forever. We will stay and play in Perth,” Moore said.


“The North Sydney Bears have 116 years of history. That won’t go away. But what we have here is two cities, one future.

“Our history, our logo, our brand is very dear to us, it’s our tattoo. We realise for us to be reborn, it can’t be in the North Sydney area and we are more than happy to move across the Nullarbor to Western Australia.

“It’s about the West Australian people realising this is going to be their team as well. It’s a marriage, a partnership, where our history is brought into the West.

“Going forward, it’s a partnership we want the West Australian people to be proud of, what we’ve got, where we are going and what we are going to achieve together.”

Sydney marketing guru Singleton has said he will do “whatever it takes” to ensure the Jets become the minority partner in a Perth team.

 

flippikat

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Awesome to see the desire for 20 to be stated AND a roadmap to get to a decision on teams 18, 19, and 20.

In about a month we will know exactly who's bidding this time, and I expect there to be a great contest of ideas. AFL & RU will be extremely jealous of how heavily the NRL will be courted... and media will have a field-day covering the bids. Win. Win. Win.

However, as much as I can't wait to find out 18, 19 & 20.. I also wanna see some creative thinking about the losers (both those bidding AND those maybe not ready to bid).

What's the plan for funding, pathways, infrastructure, NRL games, possible NSW/Qld Cup teams, or even even NRL expansion past 20 teams for those who don't quite make the cut in this expansion phase?

Also, what of possible NRL locations that don't bid this time .. eg Adelaide or Wellington if they can't get something compelling together in the next month, but could be options past 20 teams?
 

docbrown

Coach
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Ok.. so who had "20 teams by 2032, bids to be submitted before the end of July, decision & timing to be announced by October this year"?

That's pretty much what I've suspected. If there's 3 bids that are viable, they will announce all 3 this year for staggered inclusion.

They are going into broadcast negotiations and want a definitive timeline for the 9th & 10th games to extract maximum rights value.
 

Perth Red

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So we know
perth
png
fiji
christchurch
south brisbane

will bid. Any other left fielders? Maybe bears for pacifika if perth turn them down?
 

flippikat

First Grade
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So we know
perth
png
fiji
christchurch
south brisbane

will bid. Any other left fielders? Maybe bears for pacifika if perth turn them down?

Perth

PNG

Fiji

Christchurch x3
- Kea (Moffat's Bid)
- South Island NRL Bid (Headed by Tony Kidd, no nickname yet)
- Mystery Bid backed by "Christchurch Millionaires"

Brisbane Easts Tigers (Brand probably to be reworked, was Firehawks)

So that's 7 that have been publicized, though the Christchurch mystery bid only appears to be mentioned fleetingly in media articles.. so not sure how much substance that has?

Then you have Newtown and Norths who are interested in linking to the Perth bid, but will the unsuccessful one try hooking up with a different bid as a plan B? (or in the Bears case, something like a plan Q? Hehehe)
 

MrE_Assassin

Juniors
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Perth

PNG

Fiji

Christchurch x3
- Kea (Moffat's Bid)
- South Island NRL Bid (Headed by Tony Kidd, no nickname yet)
- Mystery Bid backed by "Christchurch Millionaires"

Brisbane Easts Tigers (Brand probably to be reworked, was Firehawks)

So that's 7 that have been publicized, though the Christchurch mystery bid only appears to be mentioned fleetingly in media articles.. so not sure how much substance that has?

Then you have Newtown and Norths who are interested in linking to the Perth bid, but will the unsuccessful one try hooking up with a different bid as a plan B? (or in the Bears case, something like a plan Q? Hehehe)
More like plan DD. Pretty sure they’ve well surpassed the regular alphabet.
 

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