4 nations 2014

[roughyedspud]

Mate, other than the PXIII v PNG game, I have no idea. There's always more that the ARLC could be doing. But I'd guess that our players association is too strong and that they don't want to be playing any extra matches.

c'mon don't blame the players union.....


lets call it straight..the ARLC can't be arsed!

 

[Springs]

Point taken mate but someone previously posted that England should go to PNG if they (PNG) make the 4 N. This is a recurring theme where some Aussies want to make life as difficult as possible for England when we go down there whilst giving Australia as easy a ride as possible. Maybe it's about time the Kangaroos suffered a bit of adversity. True also about England's lack of any fixtures against the other home nations. It now looks like we won't play another international game in the UK (if it still exists) until 2015 or 2016 which is shameful given the impact of the WC.

What do you mean adversity? Every time we go over there we play in Ireland or Wales or France.
I really don't see the harm in having one Four Nations game in PNG. Yeah maybe Australia should play there too in the Four Nations but maybe England should play in Wales or France or Ireland or Scotland next Four Nations.
The reason is not to make England's ride difficult. The reason is to maximise interest. A game involving Australia is always going to have at least some interest around Australia, but the England-PNG/whoever game is not, hence why it's been a double header the last 2 times. So that's why it's the natural game to take abroad.
It's like us arguing that we should play Ireland in England and you should go over and play in Limerick, despite the fact that you sold out Huddersfield for the game and Australia v Ireland would draw about 10,000-15,000 at the most.

 

[Springs]

c'mon don't blame the players union.....


lets call it straight..the ARLC can't be arsed!

It's because the ARLC is primarily about looking after the Australian game. What happened to the Pacific Federation that was suggested a few years back? That's who should be looking after other international matches. Like the RLEF do.
I mean fair enough if Australia and NZ are hosting a tournament then the ARL and NZRL need to organise it but it's not the ARL's job to organise Samoa and Tonga and co., just like it's not the RFL's job to organise Scotland, Ireland, France, Italy and co.

 

[roughyedspud]

im sorry but thats bullshit.....the RFL,ARLC and to a lesser extent NZRL & FFR are duty bound to spread and look after the game internationally.

the RLEF got off the ground because the RFL bankrolled it for 10 years and put admin staff in place at the RLEF to build it into the body it is today......and as we all know the RFL stopped funding the celts 6months ago exactly because "we've done our bit now"


thats what the ARL(C) should have done with the pacific version!! you lot don't get to say "its not our job...." YES IT BLOODY WELL IS!....

and don't say its the RLIF job.......until its independent, the RLIF is the RFL,ARLC,NZRL etc...so it is "our job"

 

[deluded pom?]

What do you mean adversity? Every time we go over there we play in Ireland or Wales or France.

It must be really tough playing in cool conditions with little or no humidity and travelling on a coach for a few hours or a half hour flight as opposed to having to play in totally alien temperatures and high humidity and flying several hundred miles for the privilege and then having to reverse the process. That's what I mean by adversity.

 

[Springs]

It must be really tough playing in cool conditions with little or no humidity and travelling on a coach for a few hours or a half hour flight as opposed to having to play in totally alien temperatures and high humidity and flying several hundred miles for the privilege and then having to reverse the process. That's what I mean by adversity.

Oh f**k off, have a sook. That's what the PM XIII do every year. Australia do both. We play in Ireland and France when we go over there and play in PNG every year. England do neither. Suggest they play a game in PNG just once and it's a conspiracy to run down England even more. If England can't make the final in their own country, with sold out games, a huge crowd at Wembley cheering them on and the biggest test crowd ever waiting for them at Old Trafford, what the hell is a game in PNG going to do?
Is it only the English that have to adjust to climate? Australian apparently just naturally adjust to all temperatures and humidity.
I mean that half-hour flight to the UK from here was nothing really. And the conditions, pfft, only about 30-35 degrees lower than in Australia at that time.
Not to mention England purposely go over and train in different climates in South Africa. But PNG is too much for poor, poor England.

FFS. England play in England, Australia and NZ (+ a game in Cardiff). Australia has played in Australia, England, NZ, PNG, France, Wales and Ireland. But we're the ones who need to play abroad more.

What whingers.

 

[deal.with.it]

Will any 4nations warm up matches be announced?

Maybe NZ could finally play the Cook Islands.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Cheers for taking over Springs. Made all the points I wanted to make.

It's clear deluded pom is named appropriately. Bloody hell, the mere suggestion that the visiting 4Nations nation (England) play in the hosting nations own country (PNG, Fiji, Samoa, etc), it's automatically a conspiracy to make things harder for England. Your players do that well enough for you on your own. It couldn't be, I dunno, a suggestion to build the game in a second tier nation!! Like Australia do for PNG every year!

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

im sorry but thats bullshit.....the RFL,ARLC and to a lesser extent NZRL & FFR are duty bound to spread and look after the game internationally.

the RLEF got off the ground because the RFL bankrolled it for 10 years and put admin staff in place at the RLEF to build it into the body it is today......and as we all know the RFL stopped funding the celts 6months ago exactly because "we've done our bit now"


thats what the ARL(C) should have done with the pacific version!! you lot don't get to say "its not our job...." YES IT BLOODY WELL IS!....

and don't say its the RLIF job.......until its independent, the RLIF is the RFL,ARLC,NZRL etc...so it is "our job"

Hey, maybe organising the away nation playing in a developing league country could be a good start.

 

[Springs]

Will any 4nations warm up matches be announced?

Maybe NZ could finally play the Cook Islands.

They did last year before the World Cup.

 

[hutch]

They did last year before the World Cup.

In the Cook Islands would be nice after what they did to them last time.

 

[deal.with.it]

Yes thats what i was referring to

 

[roughyedspud]

Hey, maybe organising the away nation playing in a developing league country could be a good start.

not got a problem playing in PNG me lol

 

[flamin]

at last

2014 FOUR NATIONS SCHEDULE

Saturday, October 25: Australia v New Zealand, England v Pacific Team at Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane.

Saturday, November 1: New Zealand v Pacific Team at Toll Stadium, Whangarei.

Sunday, November 2: Australia v England at AAMI Park, Melbourne.

Saturday, November 8: New Zealand v England at Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin.

Sunday, November 9: Australia v Pacific Team at WIN Stadium, Wollongong.

Saturday, November 15: Four Nations Final at Westpac Stadium, Wellington.

Revised:
http://www.nrl.com/smith-to-fulfil-mcg-dream-in-origin/tabid/10874/newsid/79009/default.aspx

 

[flamin]

I thought the ARLC was being ambitious but then an article from today from the smh says that Aus v Eng is still at AAMI.

 

[Rodney]

the smh report was issued before the NRL press release.
It might have been changed.

 

[roughyedspud]

lets be honest.....there some really sloppy things written in the aussie press

 

[deal.with.it]

I'm sure the poms would take sloppy reporting over their current no reporting.

 

[roughyedspud]

oh don't get me wrong...the bbc are just as bad sometimes when reporting RL...