7 Tackle Set

[Springs09]

A 20m start on the set is plenty of advantage for defending your line.

Especially considering if you gather a kick in the field of play and get tackled 5 metres out. You've just defended your line and the opposition put in a rubbish kick that went nowhere and you're 1 tackle down in your own ten. Meanwhile if they get over the line then drop it you can be on the 30 with 6 tackles in hand.

Reward for defending your line shouldn't come in to it.

 

[Bandwagon]

Especially considering if you gather a kick in the field of play and get tackled 5 metres out. You've just defended your line and the opposition put in a rubbish kick that went nowhere and you're 1 tackle down in your own ten. Meanwhile if they get over the line then drop it you can be on the 30 with 6 tackles in hand.

Reward for defending your line shouldn't come in to it.

Given a kick landing in the field of play ( in an attacking situation ) more often than not , isn't "a rubbish kick", I don't think that all that relevant.

It's also worth noting that a knock on in general play starts at zero tackle if the defence regathers ( so a seven tackle set ) and it's given a fairly generous interpretation of "playing an advantage".

There's quirks in the game either way, what I like about the rule is the fact it provides another opportunity for a team to swing the momentum their way with defence, and that it punishes just putting in the kick as the default attacking option by increasing the risk.

I could live with or without it TBH, I just don't see it as a problem with our rules either way.

 

[siv]

What was this rule?

Same as what happens when you grubber in goal

Jack Gibson used it as a attacking weapon

While Warren Ryan at Canterbury used it to entrench a team into doing drop outs

Watch the 84 85 grand finals to see its full effect

 

[Canard]

Now we have the shot clocks at about the right level

Now its time to fix the 7 tackle set

It was brought in to stop long range licks to tack the fullbacks put of play

In the late 80s the catch on the full rule was brought in to reduce the number of bombs

I would like it adjusted as follows

Only kicks from beyond 40m out that go dead should result in a 7 tackle set

- fieldgoal attempts do not result in 7 tackles
- knockons in the field of play even if kicked dead should result in scrums
- knockons in goal should be 6 tackle set

- drop kicks that are not proper fieldgoal attempts eg not aimed at the posts (eg Slater) or become grubbers - are treated like notmal kicks

Yes I agree, encouraging more general play kicking will really pack in the crowds......

 

[Someguy]

Wasn’t spirit of the rule to allow fullbacks to return kicks? So you don’t get a team end a set on halfway and just kick it out the back to avoid a return

Now it’s just free March down the field for a minor error

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Wasn’t spirit of the rule to allow fullbacks to return kicks? So you don’t get a team end a set on halfway and just kick it out the back to avoid a return

Now it’s just free March down the field for a minor error

Yeah it was a response to teams deliberately kicking long and dead to negate Slater and Hayne. Hence the suggestion from some quarters to only allow 7 tackle sets if it’s kicked dead from outside the 40, as kicks from closer in tend to be genuine attacking kicks.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Yes I agree, encouraging more general play kicking will really pack in the crowds......

Speak for yourself, I like a good grubber to the in goal more than a team unimaginatively running it on the last and dying with the ball, which is what the current safety first option seems to be.

 

[t-ba]

The Slater rule never worked. Should have just let the other team bite a chunk of his ear off Jimmy Graham style and that would have stopped the little cheating merkin

Has Lord Graham got his citizenship yet?

Needs to be given Australian of the Year for that. If not a citizen yet, an OBE will do.

 

[Canard]

Speak for yourself, I like a good grubber to the in goal more than a team unimaginatively running it on the last and dying with the ball, which is what the current safety first option seems to be.

A good grubber, is one that stays in the field of play.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

A good grubber, is one that stays in the field of play.

But one that only misses by a little or is shepherded dead is still exciting, and I think a 7 tackle set is a harsh punishment for the error.

 

[TheVelourFog]

I seem to remember Penrith copping shit for scoring a lot of their tries off kicks in 2010(?)

not sure why tries from kicks are deemed less exciting, especially after seeing some of the defense on show this past weekend

 

[lockyno1]

Meh...run the ball then.

I don’t love the rule but no one is forcing halves to kick it badly

 

[Springs09]

Given a kick landing in the field of play ( in an attacking situation ) more often than not , isn't "a rubbish kick", I don't think that all that relevant.

It's also worth noting that a knock on in general play starts at zero tackle if the defence regathers ( so a seven tackle set ) and it's given a fairly generous interpretation of "playing an advantage".

There's quirks in the game either way, what I like about the rule is the fact it provides another opportunity for a team to swing the momentum their way with defence, and that it punishes just putting in the kick as the default attacking option by increasing the risk.

I could live with or without it TBH, I just don't see it as a problem with our rules either way.

A grinder that goes 2 metres and lands in the field of play or ricochets off a leg is a rubbish kick and happens all the time.

A knock on doesn’t give a free 20 metres, unless it’s in-goal. You’d think keeping them out of the in-goal would be the bigger reward.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Now we have the shot clocks at about the right level

Now its time to fix the 7 tackle set

It was brought in to stop long range licks to tack the fullbacks put of play

In the late 80s the catch on the full rule was brought in to reduce the number of bombs

I would like it adjusted as follows

Only kicks from beyond 40m out that go dead should result in a 7 tackle set

- fieldgoal attempts do not result in 7 tackles
- knockons in the field of play even if kicked dead should result in scrums
- knockons in goal should be 6 tackle set

- drop kicks that are not proper fieldgoal attempts eg not aimed at the posts (eg Slater) or become grubbers - are treated like notmal kicks

It is meant to discourage kicking in general....

Either kickers pull it up short or they risk the 7-tackle set. If they f*ck up and put it dead, they have no one else to blame but themselves.