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A solution to the NRL problems maybe ?

salivor

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- 2 completely salary cap exempt players per club

I really like this marquee player idea. If we do 2 per club then that's potentially the top 32 players in the game that we can hopefully offer enough to keep them in our comp and more importantly in our game.

It also increases the salaries of the other 23 players in the NRL squads. If you take out the top highest paid players in each club you're probably freeing up something like 800k to 1 million dollars which is a lot of money to play with for the rest of the squad.

While I don't think we have the money to compete with the European Unions, if we could fend them off our top 30 or so players then you'd have to wonder if they're interested in throwing such large sums of money at the next tier down and they'll instead turn their attention back to raping the ARU and NZRFU of their playing stocks.
 

adamkungl

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Sounds great. Good to see some of us talking sense! Should allow the top players to earn what the're worth and keep them in the game while also placing the future of Sydney clubs in their own hands.

Other variations to this idea could be:
- 2 completely salary cap exempt players per club
- as above but with further cap exemptions for local juniors

Other variations would work with the finer details negotiated with the clubs and RLPA etc.

Match payments for rep matches should also be increased to add further incentives for the top players to stay, and would force them to perform to get the extra cash on offer!

All the above could be funded easily from current income streams.

No club will be forced to spend extra and will still be able to compete on the field.

LordLeague

oh no, not sensible talk again. I hate it when the happens.
Kill Sydney teams!
*phew, back to normailty*
 

salivor

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LordLeague said:
Match payments for rep matches should also be increased to add further incentives for the top players to stay, and would force them to perform to get the extra cash on offer!

The problem with that is it only really works for Australian players with SOO an exclusive club. I think it's the issue that Australians seem to miss or maybe don't care about is that New Zealand is probably hit the worst from the player drain to the ESL.
 

adamkungl

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The problem with that is it only really works for Australian players with SOO an exclusive club. I think it's the issue that Australians seem to miss or maybe don't care about is that New Zealand is probably hit the worst from the player drain to the ESL.

yeah warriors would have a pretty gun side with all the kiwis over in the uk
 

LordLeague

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I agree the rep incentives are a little trickier but maybe test players can get a bonus based on gate receipts. Could at least be looked at further.

LordLeague
 

The Tank

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The major wrong for me is what would be the point with persisting with the salary cap? The purpose of the salary cap is to create an even playing field. If you don't have a limit at some point on third party payments then it becomes a case of those clubs with the greatest corporate support can stock pile players and you move into a free for all environment. I'm slowly starting to wonder if that's the way to go but unlimited 3rd party payments isn't the answer IMO. If we're going down that track we may as well be honest with ourselves and just scrap the cap outright.

I believe I heard that the limit on 3rd party payments currently is $150k per club which is pretty pathetic when you think about it. I'd support raising it to $500k or 1 million whatever needs to be done to stop some of the rot (as I don't believe we have the funds to compete with European Union and stop it entirely) but there has to be a limit set somewhere if you want to keep that level playing field. Along with further concessions for juniors and long serving players and an increase in the cap is somewhere where the answer lies IMO.

:shock: If that's true no wonder the players are whinging. That's f**king pathetic!
 
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Its really quite simple. The Salary Cap is designed to stop clubs from going broke, and it works very well in that respect, and it also helps even up the competition which is great too in my opinion. However the biggest bug bear to the players themselves is the fact that their earning capacity is greatly reduced, and thats fair enough too. I agree with them.

Instead of scrapping the Salary Cap, why not simply scrap all rules related to third party payments instead ? Gallop, at the moment, argues that not all clubs attract the same amount of corporate support. But who's fault is that ? If your club is not marketable enough, then sack the board and hire people who WILL make it marketable.

I think this would encourage much more corporate support into our game, and thats exactly what the fans AND the players want. They want to make as much money as they can in their limited timeframe that they can play our game. With this we will get to keep far more players in our game, and they will thus be rewarded with corporate endorsements.

If a company wants to even sponsor a player themselves, then why should they be stopped from doing so ? Dont you think this is a far better way to manage our game and its players than scrapping the Sydney clubs or even the Salary Cap itself ?

I cant think of too many things wrong with this idea. IF you can, then please post away :)

First and probably last time ill ever agree with you, but well said.
 

LordLeague

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Who's collating the good ideas form these forums?? Plenty of good ideas seem to appear and are then forgotten after a few days when the usual knee-jerk crazy stuff takes over again.

Any solutions to stem player drain with minimal impact on salary cap while retaining Sydney Clubs should be made a Sticky!!!..or at least collated somewhere.

Any volunteers?

LordLeague
 

OVP

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Who's collating the good ideas form these forums?? Plenty of good ideas seem to appear and are then forgotten after a few days when the usual knee-jerk crazy stuff takes over again.

Any solutions to stem player drain with minimal impact on salary cap while retaining Sydney Clubs should be made a Sticky!!!..or at least collated somewhere.

Any volunteers?

LordLeague

Anyone know the emails of Roy Masters or Phil Gould ? I wouldnt mind sending them the link to this thread, they could probably put it into words better than any of us plus they could get these ideas out there into the mainstream.
 

jimmythehand

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the original idea won't work. Private owners of clubs could have their own company paying players, without it coming under the salary cap. This is akin to there being no salary cap.

I like the idea of each club being allowed 2 players that don't come under the salary cap. However, you'd probably want to reduce the cap by about 750k when doing this so it's back to the level that supposedly supports the game best in the current conditions.
 

ibeme

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All third party sponsorships should be managed completely by the NRL. And by that I mean, the NRL should be responsible for obtaining and brokering the deals. They should market the players to potential sponsors, shop them around. If a potential sponsor approaches the NRL wanting to sponsor a particular player, then the details of that sponsorship can be negotiated with the NRL and the NRL can then ensure that the player is obliged to return a legitimate service to the sponsor.

It would almost be like central contracting for marketable players, but it would be coming out of sponsors pockets.
 

Perth Red

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BINGO ibeme! No issues with clubs dominating, no issue with rich clubs poaching all the stars and theoretically the NRL should have the contacts with the multinationals to make it happen. We almost need a central casting agency for players run by the NRL!
 

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