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A wine question

LeagueNut

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Apologies in advance if this is a really stupid question .... but when it comes to wine, I'm pretty stupid myself ...

About five or six years ago I acquired a 1.5 litre bottle of Jacob's Creek Chardonnay Pinot Noir Brut Cuvee. Not being much of a wine person, it was promptly banished to the back of an old cupboard and completely forgotten about until now. It's basically been sitting in the dark the whole time.

Will it still be OK to drink???

Thanks in advance. :)
 

coolumsharkie

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Depends on if the climate changes up considerably.. (which in Australia it does) but if it's been in a relatively cool place then it might be ok. Also it has a vintage on the bottle so if you bought it in 02' and it's an 01' vintage then I reckon it will be ok.

You will know by smelling it anyway. Off wine has a distinctive ''cat's piss'' smell about it.

BTW it's champagne you realize?
 

Ninja

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^ Well its actually 'sparkling wine' as it is not from the Champagne region of France.

Jacob's Creek Chardonnay Pinot Noir Brut Cuvee is a non vintage sparkling so you really should have consumed it within 12 months of purchase.

No great loss though
 

BWNB

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Ninja said:
^ Well its actually 'sparkling wine' as it is not from the Champagne region of France.

Jacob's Creek Chardonnay Pinot Noir Brut Cuvee is a non vintage sparkling so you really should have consumed it within 12 months of purchase.

No great loss though

Thats it, its a copyright issue if i remember correctly.
 

coolumsharkie

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Ninja[B said:
]^ Well its actually 'sparkling wine' as it is not from the Champagne region of France.[/B]

Jacob's Creek Chardonnay Pinot Noir Brut Cuvee is a non vintage sparkling so you really should have consumed it within 12 months of purchase.

No great loss though

Yeah I knew that but considering LN doesnt know alot about wine I thought I'd explain it that way.

True about the no great loss.
 

Thomas

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Yeah very true. NV wine will not get better with age.

I've stumbled across a few gems in my cupboard lately. Some really old bottles of wine. I've also got a boxed set of Wynns Black Label Cabernet. In it are the 1959, 1960, 1976, 1986, 1996 and 2000 vintages.

Apparently the 59 and 60 are still quite good!
 

punton

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LeagueNut said:
Apologies in advance if this is a really stupid question .... but when it comes to wine, I'm pretty stupid myself ...

About five or six years ago I acquired a 1.5 litre bottle of Jacob's Creek Chardonnay Pinot Noir Brut Cuvee. Not being much of a wine person, it was promptly banished to the back of an old cupboard and completely forgotten about until now. It's basically been sitting in the dark the whole time.

Will it still be OK to drink???

Thanks in advance. :)

My advice........gift wrap it and give it to your mother in law.

Either way, you cannot lose. ;-)
 

ParraDude_Jay

First Grade
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Since he's got his answer...

I have about 25 bottles of "Flinders Bay Margaret River 2003 Vintage Chardonnay" in the garage (and about 5 bottles of a red wine but I can't remember the name), they have been sitting there for up to or over 2 years in a crate with a towel over them. I don't drink but I have a few pisshead mates who want them but I don't want to give them away if it's all gone off.

I put one in the fridge a week ago and just opened it after reading this thread, it just smells like alcohol to me, not sure what cat urine wine smells like though. Would these all be off?
 

Thomas

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Only one way to find out! Have a drink and see what it tastes like.

Pretty sure the Flinders Bay Chardonnay is an unoaked chardonnay and unwooded whites don't seem to age as well as their oaked cousins. With the exception of rieslings and semillons (Hunter Valley esp.) most white wines should be drunk within a couple of years of their release. This is especially true for dry whites like sauvignon blancs which tend to lose their acidity and become a bit bland after a year. Always buy current year sauv blancs...

But back to your wine. High price and premium chardys can cellar for a couple of years...sometimes up to ten (but that is pushing it). They tend to lose their fruity flavour and turn a toasty gold in colour. This is where an oaked chardy wins because the oak imparted flavour gives the wine depth. Without it you'll have a wine that, probably, isn't too bad to drink but not the flashest.

I've had a 6 year old chardonnay which was the ducks nuts...but then again at $70 a bottle, it should have been.

Drink an unwooded chardy straight away. An oaked chardy can cellar a bit longer....but that $9.95 bottle of wine isn't going to turn into a bottle of white gold.

Any other wine questions?? f**k I love wine!
 

punton

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Thomas said:
Only one way to find out! Have a drink and see what it tastes like.

Pretty sure the Flinders Bay Chardonnay is an unoaked chardonnay and unwooded whites don't seem to age as well as their oaked cousins. With the exception of rieslings and semillons (Hunter Valley esp.) most white wines should be drunk within a couple of years of their release. This is especially true for dry whites like sauvignon blancs which tend to lose their acidity and become a bit bland after a year. Always buy current year sauv blancs...

But back to your wine. High price and premium chardys can cellar for a couple of years...sometimes up to ten (but that is pushing it). They tend to lose their fruity flavour and turn a toasty gold in colour. This is where an oaked chardy wins because the oak imparted flavour gives the wine depth. Without it you'll have a wine that, probably, isn't too bad to drink but not the flashest.

I've had a 6 year old chardonnay which was the ducks nuts...but then again at $70 a bottle, it should have been.

Drink an unwooded chardy straight away. An oaked chardy can cellar a bit longer....but that $9.95 bottle of wine isn't going to turn into a bottle of white gold.

Any other wine questions?? f**k I love wine!

Me too.:lol:

Have you ever been to any of the festivals in The Barossa - Gourmet or Vintage?
 

Thomas

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punton said:
Me too.:lol:

Have you ever been to any of the festivals in The Barossa - Gourmet or Vintage?

No, just toured around buying too much wine.

I want to become a bit of a wine dork.

Seriously.

Its pretty darn easy, Do a bit of reading. Try every single wine you can get your hands on and the bugs starts!

I was lucky and started really appreciating wine when I was working in a bottle shop while going to uni. I loved it so much that I was tossing up whether to do a masters of engineering or get a degree in viticulture/oencology. Chose engineering but still enjoy wines.

Try going to a few wine festivals or tastings or even doing a course or two. Basic to intermediate wine courses are everywhere and can be quite enjoyable. I did about 15 -20 courses while working in the industry and my favourite, by a long way, was a food-wine matching course. Still using that information today.

I try and buy at least one decent cellaring bottle a fortnight. I try not to drink more than 2 of these a fortnight, but its hard!
 

punton

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The Barossa festivals are sensational.

Each participating vineyard fly's chefs in from the best restaurants in the country and there's food and tastings on with music from Jazz to Rock.

Basedow used to have the slammer of all parties until the coppers put a stop to it. :lol:

Last year St Hallet's was the best gig.

Looking forward to this years.
 

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