Advantage Rule

[meltiger]

Was at the gaem last night sitting behind the goal line so my perception may not have been the best, but -

Melbourne knock on, and Barba (I think) picks ball up, runs 20 metres across the field seemingly, and knocks on. Melbourne scrum.

Tigers knock on today, Penrith run 10-15 metres up field, and ref rules no advantage back to the Tigers initial knock on.

:?


What am I missing? What is the current interpretation on what is defined as 'advantage' ?


Personally I thought the call today was fair, so was that a shitty call against Canterbury last night?

 

[skeepe]

Didn't see the Penrith call but if it's as you describe, it was the wrong call.

Barba definitely took his advantage, correct call there.

 

[meltiger]

As I said mate, I was sitting behind the goal line, so maybe he went further forward than I thought, but shouldn't you actually have to gain a positional advantage before you lose it?

 

[jsmith]

Barbas play was deemed to have taken an advantage. He could have quite easily found a gap and scored as that's the player he is.

Today's play was called back due to double knock on.

Personally have no problem with either.

 

[LazyDreamer]

Add on Dragons/Knights. Kick goes up, Knights knock on, Creagh scoots less than 10 metres before losing the ball over the line when a defender hit him across the chin, play on when the Knights cleaned up the loose ball & made it into the field of play.

 

[Grapple]

It basically comes down to when the Ref thinks they've taken their opportunity, not so much positional advantage. Sadly, it comes down the individual refs interpretation, which kind of defeats the point of a rule I would've thought...

 

[meltiger]

Well that was sort of where I was heading. How can you deem Barba to have taken an advantage when the team makes no progress up the field?


Penrith pick up the ball and scoot up the field, a quick play the ball could have resulted in further metres again, yet we deem that no advantage?


Go back to that infamous game in R1, Galloway toes the ball forward what 2/3 metres, and ref says you took your advantage?


Where is there any consistency?


(& it's not a whinge thread, as I said I thought Barba was hard done by last night)

 

[East Coast Tiger]

There was one in the Warriors game where a LOL@50(c)ffs knock on was called back even after the Warriors picked it up and ran with it and Mateo threw a forward pass.

ATEOTD the rule is referee's discretion so you can't say a ref gets it wrong by the book. But the interpretation should be as consistent as possible and at the moment I'm not sure it is.

 

[meltiger]

Maybe position on the field is coming into play?

Both the Tigers examples result in scrums to the Tigers 10 metres out if the calls go the other way, whereas that Barba one was on what roughly 40m/halfway

The Newcastle example above also would have been an attacking scrum 10 metres out with a reversed call. Haven't seen the Souths Auckland game for your example ECT