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AFL 2004 - Round 16

CyberKev

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WEST COAST v ESSENDON
Friday, 7:40pm, Subiaco

WEST COAST
B: Chick, Glass, Hunter
HB: Banfield, Lynch, Morrison
C: Wooden, Cousins, Butler
HF: Jones, Hansen, Judd
F: Matera, McDougall, Seaby
FOLL: Cox, Kerr, Fletcher
I/C: Sampi, Wirrpunda, Braun, Adkins
EMG: Waters, Staker, Green
IN: Chick
OUT: Nicoski (shoulder)

ESSENDON
B: McVeigh, Fletcher, Richards
HB: Welsh, Bolton, Bradley
C: Solomon, Misiti, Ramanauskas
HF: J.Johnson, McPhee, Haynes
F: Murphy, Lloyd, Lovett-Murray
FOLL: Allan, M.Johnson, Peverill
I/C: Hille, Stanton, Dyson, Bullen
EMG: Alvey, Mercuri, Winderlich
IN: Stanton, Fletcher, Bolton
OUT: Alvey (flu), Hird (ribs), Lucas (hamstring)




CARLTON v KANGAROOS
Saturday, 2:10pm, Optus Oval

CARLTON
B: Norman, Thornton, Morrell
HB: Teague, Koutoufides, Houlihan
C: Prendergast, Johnson, McGrath
HF: Deluca, Whitnall, Scotland
F: Fisher, Fevola, Lappin
FOLL: French, Camporeale, Stevens
I/C: Bannister, Davies, McCormick, Walker
EMG: Beasy, Clarke, Harford
IN: Bannister, Fevola, Whitnall
OUT: Bowyer, Simpson, Sporn

KANGAROOS
B: Watt, Archer, Makepeace
HB: King, Brown, Colbert
C: A.Stevens, Simpson, Rawlings
HF: Grant, Petrie, Motlop
F: B.Harvey, Rocca, S.Harvey
FOLL: Porter, Harris, Firrito
I/C: Wells, M.Stevens, Sinclair, Corey Jones
EMG: McKernan, Sansbury, S.Clayton
IN: S.Harvey
OUT: Harding
NEW: Shane Harvey (Essendon)


RICHMOND v ST KILDA
Saturday, 2:10pm, Telstra Dome

RICHMOND
B: A.Kellaway, Jackson, Zantuck
HB: Newman, Hall, Fiora
C: Roach, Bowden, Pettifer
HF: Tivendale, Schulz, Hartigan
F: Krakouer, Richardson, Moore
FOLL: Ottens, Johnson, Brown
I/C: Hyde, Tuck, Fleming, Blumfield
EMG: Chaffey, Rodan, Houlihan
IN: Fiora, Roach, Jackson, Hartigan
OUT: Campbell (knee), Hilton (knee), Rogers (retired), Chaffey
NEW: Daniel Jackson (18, Carey Grammar)

ST KILDA
B: Voss, Blake, Jones
HB: Gram, S.Fisher, Black
C: Dal Santo, Harvey, Goddard
HF: Guerra, Hamill, Powell
F: Ferguson, Riewoldt, Milne
FOLL: Knobel, Hayes, Ball
I/C: Thompson, Baker, Montagna, Peckett
EMG: Brooks, Stone, X.Clarke
IN: Montagna, Peckett, Guerra, Ferguson, Goddard
OUT: Hudghton (finger), Schwarze (hamstring), Penny (hamstring), Maguire (groin), Maguire


COLLINGWOOD v BRISBANE LIONS
Saturday, 7:10pm, MCG

COLLINGWOOD
B: Johnson, Wakelin, Lonie
HB: Maxwell, Clement, Cole
C: Woewodin, Buckley, Rowe
HF: Swan, Rocca, Burns
F: Lokan, Fraser, Davis
FOLL: McKee, Licuria, Holland
I/C: Lockyer, O'Bree, Prestigiacomo, R.Shaw
EMG: McGough, Mullins, Walker
IN: Lokan, Shaw
OUT: Tarrant (hamstring), Didak (jaw)

BRISBANE LIONS
B: Johnson, Michael, Copeland
HB: Power, Leppitsch, Macdonald
C: Pike, Voss, Notting
HF: Caracella, Bradshaw, Akermanis
F: McGrath, Lynch, C.Scott
FOLL: Charman, Lappin, Black
I/C: Hart, Hadley, McRae, McLaren
EMG: Adcock, Pratt, Rischitelli
IN: McRae
OUT: Brown (suspended)


ADELAIDE v FREMANTLE
Saturday, 7:10pm, AAMI Stadium

ADELAIDE
B: Bassett, Rutten, Torney
HB: Doughty, McGregor, Goodwin
C: Mattner, Ricciuto, Reilly
HF: Johncock, Bock, Skipworth
F: Welsh, Hentschel, Edwards
FOLL: Biglands, Stenglein, McLeod
I/C: Clarke, Watts, Shirley, Gallagher
EMG:Massie, Hudson, Jericho
IN: Hentschel, Goodwin
OUT: Stevens, Jericho

FREMANTLE
B: Thornton, Parker, Hayden
HB: Woods, Polak, Haddrill
C: Walker, Hasleby, McManus
HF: Headland, Pavlich, Medhurst
F: Farmer, Simmonds, T.Longmuir
FOLL: Sandilands, Bell, Schammer
I/C: Siegert, Browne, Murphy, Cook
EMG: Gilmore, Smith, T.Longmuir
IN: Siegert, Murphy
OUT: McPharlin (collarbone), Grover
NEW: Ryan Murphy (19, Gippsland Power)

GEELONG v SYDNEY
Sunday, 1:10pm, Gabba

GEELONG
B: Corey, Scarlett, Milburn
HB: Hunt, Harley, Sanderson
C: Wojcinski, Ling, Riccardi
HF: Kingsley, Mooney, Bartel
F: S.Johnson, Graham, Mackie
FOLL: King, Chapman, Ablett
I/C (from): Gardiner, D.Johnson, Callan, Chambers, Spriggs, Koulouriotis, Byrnes
IN: D.Johnson, Spriggs, Koulouriotis, Byrnes
OUT: Moloney (finger)
NEW: Shannon Byrnes (20, Shepparton), Paul Koulouriotis (22, Port Adelaide)

SYDNEY
B: Crouch, C.Bolton, Bevan
HB: Barry, Goodes, Kennelly
C: Maxfield, Williams, Mathews
HF: O'Keefe, Hall, Ablett
F: Schneider, O'Loughlin, Nicks
FOLL: Ball, Kirk, J.Bolton
I/C (from): Buchanan, Dempster, Doyle, Fosdike, McVeigh, Schauble, Thewlis
IN: Buchanan, Dempster, Fosdike, Thewlis
OUT: Fixter (hamstring)
NEW: Sean Dempster (20, Snowy Rovers)


HAWTHORN v PORT ADELAIDE
Sunday, 2:10pm, MCG

HAWTHORN
B: Graham, Hay, Ball
HB: Smith, Croad, Greene
C: Lekkas, Mitchell, Beaumont
HF: Barlow, Thompson, Hodge
F: Osborne, Williams, Bateman
FOLL: Everitt, Ries, Clarke
I/C (from): Barker, Brown, Campbell, Lonie, Kane, Sewell, Tallis
IN: Barker, Bateman, Brown, Tallis, Lonie
OUT: Jacobs (broken leg), Dixon (knee soreness)

PORT ADELAIDE
B: Wilson, Wakelin, Bishop
HB: Cassisi, C.Cornes, Kingsley
C: K.Cornes, James, Dew
HF: Pickett, Tredrea, Schofield
F: Thurstans, S.Burgoyne, Ebert
FOLL: Brogan, Carr, P.Burgoyne
I/C (from): Ackland, Hardwick, Lade, Mahoney, Poulton, Symes, White
IN: Ackland, Poulton, Symes, White
OUT: Cochrane (hamstring)


MELBOURNE v WESTERN BULLDOGS
Sunday, 2:10pm, AAMI Stadium

MELBOURNE
B: Wheatley, Nicholson, Brown
HB: Yze, Rivers, Whelan
C: Green, Heffernan, Johnstone
HF: Robertson, Miller, Read
F: Davey, Neitz, Holland
FOLL: White, Bruce, McDonald
I/C (from): Broadbridge, McLean, Rigoni, Walsh, Bell, Vardy, Godfrey
IN: Whelan, Wheatley, Miller, Rigoni
OUT: Ward (bruised hip)

WESTERN BULLDOGS
B: Boyd, Harris, Koops
HB: R.Murphy, Grant, Smith
C: Eagleton, West, McMahon
HF: Power, Rawlings, Bowden
F: Robbins, Darcy, Hahn
FOLL: Street, Johnson, Cross
I/C (from): Bandy, Cooney, Gilbee, Harrison, Morgan, Skipper, Ray
IN: Bandy, Cooney, Gilbee, Harris
OUT: Giansiracusa (shoulder)


West Coast (6)
Kangaroos (19)
St Kilda (42)
Brisbane (50)
Geelong (20)
Adelaide (14)
Port Adelaide (76)
Melbourne (31)


Don't expect this to be the closest and most fab fought round of the season...

The tightest match should involve the opener, with Essendon fancying its chances of getting another win up against the Eagles. Both of these sides are ordinary, but Essendon impressed more in smashing Richmond with an inspired second half last week, than West Coast did in struggling to over come a dismal Hawk outfit. Its a must win match for both sides, and normally I'd run with the red & blacks who have a superb recent record against the Perth-siders. I'll swing this week, however, as the loss of Hird and Lucas almost guarantees that Essendon will come a cropper.[

St Kilda are really struggling at the moment, and won't find the going easy on Saturday. They couldn't have picked a better time to come-up against a dismal Tiger side, however, and will surely get back on the winners list. Richmond turned in a strong first half last week, but followed-up with a truly embarrassing second half. I expect this game to proceed along similar lines, although St Kilda are not nearly in the sort of form required to carve the Tigers up too savagely.

The Roos and the Blues played out a ripper of a match earlier in the season, with the former team pinching the game with the last kick of the day. Carlton are gradually improving, but remain well short of the mark, although the return of Fevola gives them a huge boost. The Kangaroos don't excite me much, but in a competition that is awash with mediocrity, they're worthy of a lower eight spot and should use superior skill and pace to edge themselves a win closer to September action.

Brisbane will officially end Collingwood's purely mathematical finals hopes with a comfortable win at the Gabba. The Lions have looked more solid than spectacular in recent weeks, but with the Saints fall from grace, remain the team to beat for this year's flag. They simply have too many big name match winners for a Collingwood outfit that relies on having all hands on deck, and dragging every ounce of effort and ability out of every player.

I haven't hid my admiration for Geelong throughout this season, and I'm not about to start here. It should be reasonably tight all day, with Sydney (as usual) crossing their fingers & toes that Barry Hall will come-up with the goods when it matters most. Geelong is well equipped to cope with most sides, particularly as it lacks an overt dependency on any key player. If they hadn't have been upset by West Coast a fortnight ago, I probably would have ran with the Swans here. Geelong is the better side though, and with the pain of that defeat still fresh, it should be able to expose the Swans short, over-finessing game plan.

Fremantle are looking for all the world like a side destined for the much unwanted 9th position on the table. The Dockers have talent, but they also have an unerring capacity to screw-up and should struggle to beat a revived Crows outfit at AAMI Stadium. A spurt of Hall magic effectively sunk the Crows early last week, but they played stoically over the last three quarters. A committed 3 quarter showing is all thats needed to put the Dockers away these days...

Hawthorn? Help me Rhonda, I'm fast running short on ways to describe this side's all too apparent deficiencies and failings! Port always beats Hawthorn and 9 times in 10 they beat them with an almost agonising ease. Suffice to say, this will not be that 1 occasion in 10 sort of match!

Melbourne? Yawn! Talk about over-achieving, but it is possible that the Demons may well over-achieve their way (Collingwood style) to a Grand Final thrashing. One thing's for sure, they have little to fear from a Bulldog side that has hit the inevitable wall and will struggle to win again this season! No, Cupid, Hawthorn doesn't really count these days :(

CyberKev

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Beaussie

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West Coast v Essendon
Carlton v Kangaroos
Richmond v St Kilda
Adelaide v Fremantle
Collingwood v Brisbane
Geelong v Sydney
Hawthorn v Port Adeliade
Melbourne v Western Bulldogs
 

JTR

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Melbourne? Yawn! Talk about over-achieving
:evil: :evil:
I genuinely believe the Melbourne we have today is playing like the one we'll see running around for the next few years.

We've got a good list with plenty of depth, several new players that look very promising (Rivers, Davey, Miller, Thompson), a lot of confidence and self belief, and an ever growing supported base to cheer the lads on.

Gone are the days of good one year, crap the next... (touchwood)

GO DEMONS!! :D
 

JTR

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West Coast v Essendon
Carlton v Kangaroos
Richmond v St Kilda
Adelaide v Fremantle
Collingwood v Brisbane
Geelong v Sydney
Hawthorn v Port Adeliade
Melbourne v Western Bulldogs
 

meltiger

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CyberKev said:
IN: Fiora, Roach, Jackson, Hartigan

Finally some common sense! These four should have played last weekend instead of running the likes of Super Matt on. (We should be rebuilding not being sentimental).


It's a shame Daniel will make is debut in a spanking at the Dome though :(


I like Roachy alot, he is certainly not big enough yet although another full pre-season should help that but it's good to see he hasn't been forgotten.


Hartigan had been sensational this year given where they drafted him last year.


Aaron was just starting to find some form and show some real glimpses of just how bloody good he could be. Needs to perform for the remaining games or Miller will trade him to Port Adelaide at the end of the season.
 

meltiger

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CyberKev said:
Melbourne? Yawn! Talk about over-achieving, but it is possible that the Demons may well over-achieve their way (Collingwood style) to a Grand Final thrashing. One thing's for sure, they have little to fear from a Bulldog side that has hit the inevitable wall and will struggle to win again this season! No, Cupid, Hawthorn doesn't really count these days :( [/color][/b]

Dependant on who they play ... St Kilda V Port Adelaide @ Moorabin, sorry I mean the Dome and Melbourne V Brisbane in front of 70K at the G.


I'd be putting money on an all Melbourne GF mate.

This week should go a long way towards the Prelims being played in Melbourne like they should with Melbourne and St Kilda both winning easilly and I can see Port and Brisbane being knocked off.


Essendon
North Melbourne
Richmond
Collingwood
Adelaide
Geelong
Hawthorn
Melbourne
 

Cricketer

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Weagles
North
Saints
Lions
Crows
Cats (hopefully by 100)
Port
Melbourne

Can't see the Tigers getting up but it would be great to see. As I'm interstate I'll be watching it on the TV at home, surfing between that and the Carlton game on Fox.
 

CyberKev

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meltiger said:
Dependant on who they play ... St Kilda V Port Adelaide @ Moorabin, sorry I mean the Dome and Melbourne V Brisbane in front of 70K at the G.


I'd be putting money on an all Melbourne GF mate.

This week should go a long way towards the Prelims being played in Melbourne like they should with Melbourne and St Kilda both winning easilly and I can see Port and Brisbane being knocked off.

Hawthorn to beat Port???!!! I am without speech! It'll only happen if the players trade clubs for the day. There'll be blood on the turf and the ground will be awash with brown & gold carnage!

Collingwood to beat Brisbane without Tarrant & Didak, much less the required skill and confidence???!!! Brisbane broke them psychologically in last year's GF and own them now.

St Kilda have developed a touch of the Fremantles in recent times and are GONE in 2004. Their forward line is in disarray, they have some worrying holes down back, and Cornflakes Thomas is being exposed for a lack of tactical nous and diversity of gameplan.

If anything, the Tigers have a much bigger sniff of an upset than Hawthorn & Collingwood combined...

CyberKev
 

hard nut

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Your kidding, i get bored watching 2 victorian teams play, i hope there will be at least 1 or prefably 2 interstate teams playing in the G/F, othewise i won't watch it. GET WITH IT, ITS THE 21ST CENTURY :shock: :lol: :clap:
 

hard nut

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I hope st kilda lose this week and miss the finals, wait , maybe they can all gather in the toilets :lol:
:clap:

go the swans, they will smash the CATS

PS: i dont follow the swans, follow the mighty LIONS :D
 

meltiger

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hard nut said:
Your kidding, i get bored watching 2 victorian teams play, i hope there will be at least 1 or prefably 2 interstate teams playing in the G/F, othewise i won't watch it. GET WITH IT, ITS THE 21ST CENTURY :shock: :lol: :clap:

lol

Oh I am all for the national competition and not against it by any stretch of the margin, but by rights, aren't I allowed to have some favouritism towards the Melbourne sides?
 
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