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After Las Vegas

Dogs Of War

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If the Ashes barely causes a ripple in the media in the UK (wider than newspapers, they’re a dead form of media), the Wests Tigers playing the North Queensland Cowboys is not going to do it.

When I talk about newspaper inches, I'm just talking about it as it can be a talking point. Online articles, advertising of the game.

Don't get me wrong, the whole start of the season for the NRL is doing the exact same thing, it's there to dominate the airwaves in Australia and crowd out other sports. I don't think it would do the same in the UK, but it would help elevate it, and potentially get those who have some interest to see what would be a once a year event.

Events are what attracts people who wouldn't normally view something. And with the belief that it's the best version of the sport, and from NRL highlights, some attractive advertising, it can become an event over there with the UK clubs benefiting. It's not going to suddenly upend everything and become the dominate sport, but it can elevate it somewhat.

And in a way that is good for the Australian game. Anything that can increase the player pool has to be a good thing.

We just need to make this something like how we stayed with State of Origin, something we see through on a long term. The opening round could eventually be split, so we have a USA and UK opening weekend, with games played in both locations on the same weekend, with the rest of the teams starting the week after in Australia.
 
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Taking The Two

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Not trying to take over the country. Rugby League still gets plenty of media coverage in the regions where it is played and combined with a double-header involving either an English or French team in both countries could well pack out a small to medium stadium.
Perfect for broadcasting the game back home into OZ/NZ and the added bonus of giving the game a boost over there.

It could do well but I’m not sure what the point of it would be. New audience? No, not really. Potential to grow a TV audience? Again, no, not really, it has a steady audience as it is. A boost? Well, no, not really. Clubs are doing that themselves over here.
 

Barney Stubble

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Any thoughts on what the NRL might do once the Vegas venture has run its` course.

Global round does seem to have some merit as another opportunity to get extra eyeballs on the game early in the year but I fear like Vegas it will have a limited shelf-life due to the cost aspect.

Any ideas where or what the game might do to maintain this early season advantage.
PVL maintains Vegas is cost neutral or there abouts , they essentially get the stadium for nothing because of the 30K visitors they bring into the cities economy each year for the week.

Vegas will remain anyway as part of global round should that go ahead , with 2 of the 7 games still played there.
 
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PVL maintains Vegas is cost neutral or there abouts , they essentially get the stadium for nothing because of the 30K visitors they bring into the cities economy each year for the week.

Vegas will remain anyway as part of global round should that go ahead , with 2 of the 7 games still played there.
I hope so, but if they start only getting 20k attendees, revenue neutral or not, it will no longer become a viable tv-viewing product back home and will leave the game open to ridicule.
 

Barney Stubble

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I hope so, but if they start only getting 20k attendees, revenue neutral or not, it will no longer become a viable tv-viewing product back home and will leave the game open to ridicule.
What utter chicken little nonsense

Why would they only get 20K ?
I know plenty of fans who've been &.. will go again when their team is back there

It will continue to rate well on TV , there is absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise.
 

Gobsmacked

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Noone is kidding themselves about traction. This is about having rolling coverage of Rugby League all day jumping from one country to the next covering consecutive NRL games.
It wouldn`t even have to be played in large stadiums, that wouldn`t be the point, the point would be the hype of being played around the world on the one day.
I can imagine the hype as they did live crosses from country to country, before, during and after games would make a great tv spectacle. Just what we want out of this.
That's a great take. The biggest win Vegas has had was the massive ratings it saw back in Aus. There's a big draw in seeing our sport put up on a pedestal on the other side of the world. That's the Aus ratings angle and there's no reason to suggest it wouldn't be the same, if not more so for global round.
I know personally, it would make me want to tune in more than normal.

The boosts in tourism that it gives the host city, means the NRL are now getting countries coming forward willing to bid for such an event..
So like Vegas, it will be cost neutral or slightly profitable.

The untold win that this like Vegas will have, is the effect it has on players who get the opportunity to participate. Players want to play on big stages,big events . Grand final, Origin, magic round, Vegas, Internationals. We need events that players get excited to participate in - global round will give that opportunity to every player.

There's way too many positives that this could bring if it's done well and I have no doubt that the NRL ,under this leadership can pull it off. It won't be hap hazard.. let's have a crack. It'll be well planned out,strategic and we'll organized, all the 't's 'crossed and ever penny accounted for.
 

Maximus

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The original purpose of Vegas was to gain a foothold in the US market wasnt it?

And surely they werent so naive as to think they'd crack it in only 5 years, so wouldn't the expectation be either an extension or another US host city?

The original purpose was to get into their betting market. 90% of quotes from Abdo and PVL were about gambling until they realised it was a bad look. A lot of posters on here were experts on US sports betting too, talking about how many millions we were going to make.

No deal ended up happening, so now nobody talks about it.
 
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What utter chicken little nonsense

Why would they only get 20K ?
I know plenty of fans who've been &.. will go again when their team is back there

It will continue to rate well on TV , there is absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise.
I can see foresight or planning isn`t your strongpoint.

Going to Vegas isn`t like going to Magic, the latter`s reasonable cost allowing a lot more people to go and go repeatedly. The number of people who will fork out about 10k more than once will be modest and at some point more empty seats than full will be a bad look in Vegas. You can guarantee that will affect the likelihood of casuals tuning in back home as well.

In about 10 years max, I`d suggest sooner, the NRL are going will have an alternative planned and hopefully something international because of the advantage our sport has with being able to be played on rectangular sports` fields and because of the attractiveness of marketing the international/global aspect to Australian audiences.
I`d also suggest that NRL are well aware of all this when floating the idea of a global round.
 

Barney Stubble

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I can see foresight or planning isn`t your strongpoint.

Going to Vegas isn`t like going to Magic, the latter`s reasonable cost allowing a lot more people to go and go repeatedly. The number of people who will fork out about 10k more than once will be modest and at some point more empty seats than full will be a bad look in Vegas. You can guarantee that will affect the likelihood of casuals tuning in back home as well.

In about 10 years max, I`d suggest sooner, the NRL are going will have an alternative planned and hopefully something international because of the advantage our sport has with being able to be played on rectangular sports` fields and because of the attractiveness of marketing the international/global aspect to Australian audiences.
I`d also suggest that NRL are well aware of all this when floating the idea of a global round.
hahahaha

morons like you said Magic round would also run out of steam eventually too ..
It hasn't , neither will vegas anytime soon either

after vegas ?
how bout we start planning for .. when the sun engulfs the planet too LOL
 

Dogs Of War

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I can see foresight or planning isn`t your strongpoint.

Going to Vegas isn`t like going to Magic, the latter`s reasonable cost allowing a lot more people to go and go repeatedly. The number of people who will fork out about 10k more than once will be modest and at some point more empty seats than full will be a bad look in Vegas. You can guarantee that will affect the likelihood of casuals tuning in back home as well.

In about 10 years max, I`d suggest sooner, the NRL are going will have an alternative planned and hopefully something international because of the advantage our sport has with being able to be played on rectangular sports` fields and because of the attractiveness of marketing the international/global aspect to Australian audiences.
I`d also suggest that NRL are well aware of all this when floating the idea of a global round.

I pointed out that eventually I think it will go over 2 days in a smaller stadium. With the games split over the 2 days. Don't forget we also have a UK contingent. So it should be well attended either way. Just need to find other venues and locations.
 

Perth Red

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I can see foresight or planning isn`t your strongpoint.

Going to Vegas isn`t like going to Magic, the latter`s reasonable cost allowing a lot more people to go and go repeatedly. The number of people who will fork out about 10k more than once will be modest and at some point more empty seats than full will be a bad look in Vegas. You can guarantee that will affect the likelihood of casuals tuning in back home as well.

In about 10 years max, I`d suggest sooner, the NRL are going will have an alternative planned and hopefully something international because of the advantage our sport has with being able to be played on rectangular sports` fields and because of the attractiveness of marketing the international/global aspect to Australian audiences.
I`d also suggest that NRL are well aware of all this when floating the idea of a global round.
If DAZN go all in to get nrl and SL I could see a scenario where two nrl and two SL games are played at Wembley. Dazn will be keen to see a more global approach to rl Viewership in both hemispheres. More Aussies watching sl and more Brit’s watching nrl.
 
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If DAZN go all in to get nrl and SL I could see a scenario where two nrl and two SL games are played at Wembley. Dazn will be keen to see a more global approach to rl Viewership in both hemispheres. More Aussies watching sl and more Brit’s watching nrl.
Has there been reports about DAZN keen on super league?
 

Munky

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If it's going to be round one you need a warm climate or indoor stadium.

It also needs to be grass.

In the US this leaves:

Vegas
Santa Clara
Jacksonville
Miami
Tampa Bay
Arizona

Miami is the only city outside of Vegas that would be a fun trip outside of footy.

The rest of the NFL stadiums will either be freezing in early March or have a synthetic surface.

The UK in early March won't offer a good fan experience.

Hong Kong or Japan maybe.
 

Dogs Of War

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If it's going to be round one you need a warm climate or indoor stadium.

It also needs to be grass.

In the US this leaves:

Vegas
Santa Clara
Jacksonville
Miami
Tampa Bay
Arizona

Miami is the only city outside of Vegas that would be a fun trip outside of footy.

The rest of the NFL stadiums will either be freezing in early March or have a synthetic surface.

The UK in early March won't offer a good fan experience.

Hong Kong or Japan maybe.

Except we don't need to only limit ourselves to NFL stadiums. They have plenty of soccer stadiums which hold 25-30k and we do the event over 2 days instead.
 

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