All Black failure, All Black arrested ...

[mean]

For someone who cannot stand the hypocrisy and an unlevel playing field that exists between codes, this has been a good week for me.

$50million to come 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th in the world cup.
Resorts and 5 star treatment to achieve the same result.
Commercialism and Woman's Day features so that one of our glamourised players ends up being arrested.

Our country is becoming soft. We teach our kids in school that it's not okay to win and be proud of it. We teach so that there is often no result. So how appropriate was it that 3000 people turn up to greet a team of losers and say that "It's Okay." But I wouldn't expect anything less from one eyed Cantabrians absorbed in ill informed propaganda.

I could go on and on about where $50 million dollars could've been spent and it does not necessarily include league, softball, hockey, basketball or any other sport hard done by SPARC's redistribution of funding allocation.

$100 million which also included coming 2nd in the America's Cup demonstrates why our kids are getting fat, lazy, diabetes, obesity related issues and missed opportunities.

I'd love to sit down with Nick Hill in a public forum to justify his position and rationale behind govt spend to address the issues as highlighted above.](*,)

 

[Auckland4ever]

Our country is becoming soft. We teach our kids in school that it's not okay to win and be proud of it. We teach so that there is often no result. So how appropriate was it that 3000 people turn up to greet a team of losers and say that "It's Okay." But I wouldn't expect anything less from one eyed Cantabrians absorbed in ill informed propaganda.

Agree with you re the $50 mill spent, but personally I thought it was nice to see a bunch of people keeping sport in context, and Cantabs no less.

Sport is supposed to be a positive thing in peoples lives, but it seems to make certain sections of our population very bitter & twisted around 'issues' that in global terms are totally frivolous.

 

[mean]

What's frivolous?

 

[RHYTHM AND STEALTH]

For someone who cannot stand the hypocrisy and an unlevel playing field that exists between codes, this has been a good week for me.

$50million to come 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th in the world cup.
Resorts and 5 star treatment to achieve the same result.
Commercialism and Woman's Day features so that one of our glamourised players ends up being arrested.

Our country is becoming soft. We teach our kids in school that it's not okay to win and be proud of it. We teach so that there is often no result. So how appropriate was it that 3000 people turn up to greet a team of losers and say that "It's Okay." But I wouldn't expect anything less from one eyed Cantabrians absorbed in ill informed propaganda.

I could go on and on about where $50 million dollars could've been spent and it does not necessarily include league, softball, hockey, basketball or any other sport hard done by SPARC's redistribution of funding allocation.

$100 million which also included coming 2nd in the America's Cup demonstrates why our kids are getting fat, lazy, diabetes, obesity related issues and missed opportunities.

I'd love to sit down with Nick Hill in a public forum to justify his position and rationale behind govt spend to address the issues as highlighted above.](*,)

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In my eyes the All Blacks are spioled brats and this arrest has just proved that

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Agree with you re the $50 mill spent, but personally I thought it was nice to see a bunch of people keeping sport in context, and Cantabs no less.

Sport is supposed to be a positive thing in peoples lives, but it seems to make certain sections of our population very bitter & twisted around 'issues' that in global terms are totally frivolous.

Testify

The one thing our country has too many of is bitter morons raving on about how everything is "soft" and "politically correct", having nfi what they're talking about or what point they are trying to make

 

[mean]

Add a $33,000 bar tab to the bill as well.

 

[RHYTHM AND STEALTH]

and divide that by only 16 people

 

[Micistm]

Agree with you re the $50 mill spent, but personally I thought it was nice to see a bunch of people keeping sport in context, and Cantabs no less.

Sport is supposed to be a positive thing in peoples lives, but it seems to make certain sections of our population very bitter & twisted around 'issues' that in global terms are totally frivolous.

Agree with you there. Apart from our media trying to stir things up as usual, I think it's cool that people are a bit more mature about things now, don't just throw their toys out of the cot, and give support, TRUE support to their team and welcome them home rather than snub them just because they lost a ****ing game. Same with the Warriors- I still support them even after pushing myself through watching that disaster of the last game of the season, and I'll continue to support the Kiwis after next Sunday win or lose. And in my opinion, if someone is not mature enough to watch their team, and still support them if they have a bad game without having a wee hissy fit and going off about 'accepting mediocrity' and other crap, then perhaps they should watch something scripted where they know they'll have a lovely fairy tale ending for themselves.

As a League fan, I should be delighted with the ABs shock loss earlier than ever before. But I'm not that shallow, I feel for the guys after their years of building up to that to have such a horror ending to their campaign.
I also don't blame the players for the lack of balance between our codes- It's not their fault the NZ media sees Rugby Union as a good viagra alternative! They have the opportunity to milk it and they do. What code of sport wouldn't given the chance?!

 

[Micistm]

The thing that is often forgotten, or at least quickly glossed over during these sorts of things, is that there are two teams playing. And that credit on many occasions should go to the opposition for playing well. And doesn't.
THIS particular game, was a disaster, no doubt about it. The french played very well, although they got away with murder (But playing to the whistle is the way to go), the ref was dreadful in the extreme and the ABs themselves were well below par and unfortunately saved their worst game in years for then. And that's it. **** happens.

And as for super duper expert Willie Lose, and his comments calling them 'Gutless Pricks' well that says more about Lose's class than the ABs. Put a silent 'R' on the end of his name, and tell him to grow up. He's either forgotten what can happen in sport since his playing days, or he and his team were so perfect they never had a bad game. I wonder which one it was?!

 

[mean]

Agree with you there. Apart from our media trying to stir things up as usual, I think it's cool that people are a bit more mature about things now, don't just throw their toys out of the cot, and give support, TRUE support to their team and welcome them home rather than snub them just because they lost a ****ing game. Same with the Warriors- I still support them even after pushing myself through watching that disaster of the last game of the season, and I'll continue to support the Kiwis after next Sunday win or lose. And in my opinion, if someone is not mature enough to watch their team, and still support them if they have a bad game without having a wee hissy fit and going off about 'accepting mediocrity' and other crap, then perhaps they should watch something scripted where they know they'll have a lovely fairy tale ending for themselves.

As a League fan, I should be delighted with the ABs shock loss earlier than ever before. But I'm not that shallow, I feel for the guys after their years of building up to that to have such a horror ending to their campaign.
I also don't blame the players for the lack of balance between our codes- It's not their fault the NZ media sees Rugby Union as a good viagra alternative! They have the opportunity to milk it and they do. What code of sport wouldn't given the chance?!

I guess you're right. I'll still support the Kiwis and Warriors irrespective of result. It's probably my disdain for union. I have no problems with soccer, hockey, netball or basketball, but union argh!!!

Add to media, government, schools, city councils, corporations, ....

I would've liked the AB's to win because they represented NZ, but nevertheless didn't lose any sleep.

 

[Turdy Angle]

For someone who cannot stand the hypocrisy and an unlevel playing field that exists between codes, this has been a good week for me.

$50million to come 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th in the world cup.
Resorts and 5 star treatment to achieve the same result.
Commercialism and Woman's Day features so that one of our glamourised players ends up being arrested.

Our country is becoming soft. We teach our kids in school that it's not okay to win and be proud of it. We teach so that there is often no result. So how appropriate was it that 3000 people turn up to greet a team of losers and say that "It's Okay." But I wouldn't expect anything less from one eyed Cantabrians absorbed in ill informed propaganda.

I could go on and on about where $50 million dollars could've been spent and it does not necessarily include league, softball, hockey, basketball or any other sport hard done by SPARC's redistribution of funding allocation.

$100 million which also included coming 2nd in the America's Cup demonstrates why our kids are getting fat, lazy, diabetes, obesity related issues and missed opportunities.

I'd love to sit down with Nick Hill in a public forum to justify his position and rationale behind govt spend to address the issues as highlighted above.](*,)

Was the $50 million dollars from the NZ goverment or from NZRU ? What would happen had they won the tournament ?
I'll welcome any NZ team home if they gave it their best and still come nowhere .
Would you have complain if that was the Kiwi rugby league team who spend $50 million dollars in four years to win a world cup and had the support of the majority of the population ?
I dont think so .

 

[mean]

Willie Loser!

Don't get me started on that clown. I wanted to ring up, but I know that he'd hang up. Plus he's the reason I stopped listening to that station. The biggest one eyed rugby bigoted obnoxious and arrogant person on radio sport.

Apparently he calls every sport other than rugby, minority sports!

 

[Micistm]

I guess you're right. I'll still support the Kiwis and Warriors irrespective of result. It's probably my disdain for union. I have no problems with soccer, hockey, netball or basketball, but union argh!!!

Add to media, government, schools, city councils, corporations, ....

I would've liked the AB's to win because they represented NZ, but nevertheless didn't lose any sleep.

Yep, you've summed me up as well. I've spent my life pissed off we have to listen about Rugby this and rugby that, and schools have Union and no league (even my beloved Coast where League is the religon still doesn't have it in the schools!), and we have to put up with League being called 'State House Rugby' and all that ****.
So I can understand why Leagueys do want to crow a little about this early exit in the Rugby WC (Again!). Some I know I have no doubt will be estatic. And while I feel for the team itself, some in the media I feel are getting their just desserts right now. I remember a couple in the media a few months ago talking about the 2011 World Cup, where the ABs will be defending the cup from home! How presumptuous! Maybe it was a freudian slip, but pretty funny now:lol:

 

[mean]

Was the $50 million dollars from the NZ goverment or from NZRU ? What would happen had they won the tournament ?
I'll welcome any NZ team home if they gave it their best and still come nowhere .
Would you have complain if that was the Kiwi rugby league team who spend $50 million dollars in four years to win a world cup and had the support of the majority of the population ?
I dont think so .

The kiwis wouldn't even get $5million for the past 10 years. In fact, SPARC gave rugby league next to nothing this year. Had the All Blacks won the tournament, the government would've spent more money the next time to retain the Cup, more kids would've played the game because principals would'nt allow minority sports into their schools, sponsors would've lined up to support the AB's, more kids would become inactive because money is distributed to sports that cater for big framed bodies and wealthy parents. That's what would've happened!

I have no problems with everyone being treated equally, but as we know it's not.

 

[MKEB...]

They should pay all that money to Sparc back since they no longer fit into their funding criteria.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Willie Loser!

Don't get me started on that clown. I wanted to ring up, but I know that he'd hang up. Plus he's the reason I stopped listening to that station. The biggest one eyed rugby bigoted obnoxious and arrogant person on radio sport.

Apparently he calls every sport other than rugby, minority sports!

Spot on

That Goran wanker in the morning, combined with Hill, Waldegrave and Lose really turned me off Radio Sport, i used to listen all the time, now i hardly ever tune into them, but will still listen to their cricket commentary over the summer

Am stoked we are getting a brand new sports station starting up soon, and their initial lineup sounds like a good entertaining team. I will be listening to them, and hope that they force Radio Sport to lift their game as well with some competition now

 

[Turdy Angle]

The kiwis wouldn't even get $5million for the past 10 years. In fact, SPARC gave rugby league next to nothing this year. Had the All Blacks won the tournament, the government would've spent more money the next time to retain the Cup, more kids would've played the game because principals would'nt allow minority sports into their schools, sponsors would've lined up to support the AB's, more kids would become inactive because money is distributed to sports that cater for big framed bodies and wealthy parents. That's what would've happened!

I have no problems with everyone being treated equally, but as we know it's not.

Minority Sports in schools ? I've played alot of so call minority sports at school . I played club rugby league as well .
But when we wanted to play league at school it wasn't the principal who put a stop to it .
It was our own rugby league club . We ask them to supply a coach and they said they don't want us to play league for the schools but only for the club .
You figure that one out .
I know alot of schools in Auckland wanted to field a rugby league team in the ASSRL competition .
But were told by their local clubs they couldn't help because they fear that their players will end up playing 1st XV for the school .
A full rugby league competition was finally started in Auckland schools involving alot of schools playing on wednesdays .
The rugby league clubs were right from the beginning . League kids now playing league for schools on wednesday and most of them have turn away from playing for their clubs on saturday instead playing union for the 1stXV, 2nd XV's and so on .
The only problem is that rugby league playing school numbers have decline and the rugby league club junior numbers even worse .

 

[mean]

Any club with those views and reluctance to help are short sighted. Kids will play whatever they enjoy mostly, but due to peer pressure and internal school pressure (this still exists and I know first hand) kids will often forgo a sport that they were brought up with to accommodate these pressures. Peer pressure exists because it's cool to belong to the school first XV because they get acknowledged as such and with this comes recognition and pride that is often sought as teenager progresses through puberty. Internal school pressure stems from recognition that is sought by school principals who unashamedly attempt to value the success of the school's prowess through it's rugby exploits. We only have to see student poaching, rugby scholarships and immigrated polynesian students to know that this supports this unethical practice. And we all thought that schools were for teaching, not facilitating efforts to maneuver the program around the first XV.

I've recently approached a high school with a coach and keen students of that school to place a team in the ASSRL comp, but the school was disinterested to participate. And there are many other similar episodes I could elaborate on.

Sport participation statistics amongst kids is in decline fullstop. Rugby league stats will never improve will the disparity that exists and I have'nt seen anything positive to suggests that it doesn't. Other than your suggestion that myopic clubs are reluctant to help.

 

[Turdy Angle]

I coach my school rugby league team for years and help run the school rugby league tournament (a one day tournament back then) throughout the 80's and 90's in Auckland .
We didn't even get help from the ARL and we had to ask a female teacher from Mt Albert Grammar if she could help run and organise it .
Most schools wanted to play but couldn't find the coaches or enough league kids for a team .
We have ask local clubs to help us run the tournament but noone wanted to know about it but they will there at the tournament hounding the kids to join up with the clubs after they leave school .
I just realise that most of the rugby league schools back then were from south auckland and nearly all of them are playing in the A1 and A2 1st XV competition in the Auckland .
This have come about because of the good work the ARU are doing there . Most of the kids in this schools use to play league but now find them selves playing rugby union in the ever expanding Auckland Samoan/Tongan rugby competition in South Auckland .
I help organise the under 15 rugby league school comp back too then but its now played in the nine a side format due to lack of interest .
Very sad .

 

[mean]

This have come about because of the good work the ARU are doing there .

Yes true, and don't forget guys like yourself.