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An Idea for a fair Salary Cap

CharlieF

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In view of Big Willies comments about the Salary cap as well as the abolishment of the Anti-tampering rule, I thought I might put forward an idea that would suit Big Willie or the Rabbitohs. It is a variable salary cap that allows rich successful clubs to retain the players they want whilst not penalising less well off teams.

My idea would be to allow the clubs to spend what they like. They would still have the $4 million Salary Cap, but if a club decides that they want to go over it, then they can start the competition with less points. For example the club can spend up to $4million with no penalty. Anything over $4 million but under $4.5million, then they start the competition minus 4 points. Anything over 4.5million but under 5million is another 3 point. Over 5mill is another 2 points etc with the maximum they can be docked all up is 10 points. You could also add point to teams who under spend.

This would reduce a lot of the problems of the current system. Just because a team has a big Junior comp doesn't mean that they should get salary cap concessions for their juniors. The team that has no Juniors could argue that they are disadvantaged because a team like the Dragons has 1000 times the juniors available to them. This system would not be immune from cheats, but it might be better than the current system.
 

Sanchez

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In theory thats good but it wouldnt work look at the warriors, 4 points gone an they had no hope
 

mickdo

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Instead of losing points for spending over the cap, why not just make a team pay the same amount they spend over the cap to the NRL, for use on developing the game...

e.g. cap is $4 mil and a team wants to spend $5 mil on players, so they go over by $1 mil and have to pay the NRL another $1 mil

The game will reap the financial benefits, and after a while clubs will grow very sick of spending extra money on propping up the rest of the league :lol:
 

CharlieF

Juniors
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sanchez moreno said:
In theory thats good but it wouldnt work look at the warriors, 4 points gone an they had no hope

If this system was in place, Big Willie would not need to complain about his teamates leaving him just because he and Sonny have eaten half the pie.
 

Dogs Of War

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Why not just introduce proper allowances for long serving players so clubs can afford to keep guys they have developed.
 

CharlieF

Juniors
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Dogs Of War said:
Why not just introduce proper allowances for long serving players so clubs can afford to keep guys they have developed.

Some clubs cannot afford to keep players they have developed because they genuinely don't have the funds. They would lose these players anyway.
 

_Johnsy

Referee
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"Dragons has 1000 times the juniors available to them"

Broncos ? NQ ? newcastle ? Penrith ? Parramatta ? Canberra ?

Didn't think too hard about that one did you.
 

Alan Shore

First Grade
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A club's juniors should get a 30percent salary cap discount and veterans as defined by the eight year rule should be completely waived.
 

Leagueguy

Juniors
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That won't actually result in closer matches though. Teams may be evenly matched on the ladder, but the best team might not win the competition.
 

antbytes

Juniors
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Keep the cap - keep it a $4,000,000
BUT !
For every year a player is at a club, as a salaried player, then there is a $10,000 increase in that club's cap.
To help develop juniors, each club junior coming into that club's senior playing ranks is also worth a $10,000 cap increase.
On the transfer side....
Each new player from another club (junior or senior) is worth a $10,000 cap decrease.

Comments ? Improvements ?
 

Raider_69

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i think anyone at the club for more then 8 years should be exempt
and local players should be getting a 25% discount

that encourages local junior development systems and rewards loyalty in long serving players
the cap should stay at 4mil
 

roosters06

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It all sounds good in theory, but the allowances for junior players benefit those with large catchment areas.

Teams like the Roosters with small catchment areas would be grossly disadvantaged, and even punished with a smaller cap by some of the proposed schemes.
 

Raider_69

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as opposed to now where a team like canberra has to pay overs to get or even keep someone even remotely decent?
 

mxlegend99

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I think raider_69 is onto something. IMO, juniors should get some sort of allowance in the salary cap. It's unfair on teams who have lots of juniors that they can't afford them and that other teams benefit from this. And long time players should not be under the cap at all. It's unfair that to keep a player you've had since he started his career, you have to sacrifice several juniors that are promising.

Most teams have a guy like Gower, Joey, Lockyer, Kennedy, Hindmarsh etc. that they couldn't let go, but have to let go juniors just to be able to afford these guys.

IMO, if a player has that sort of loyalty to his club, he shouldn't be a part of the salary cap... that way we can help pay these guys enough money not to trade codes.
 

antbytes

Juniors
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Roosters - Maybe you should scout an area and make it your own ????
Can this be done ???
The baseball system in the US has a minor league system which feeds the 'bigs'. Why can't this be copied here ?
As a 'country member' (and I mean that in its literal form) it would be great to see the local Port Macquarie Sharks play the Wauchope Knights ? Or the Moree Cowboys v Narrabri Roosters ? Whatever !

As far as the Raiders are concerned... they never seemed to have a problem attracting and keeping players when they were winning ?
 

roosters06

Juniors
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Raider_69 said:
as opposed to now where a team like canberra has to pay overs to get or even keep someone even remotely decent?

im not saying the current system is perfect, or even that it should stay.

All im saying is that all teams concerns need to be taken into consideration, not just certain clubs.
 

mxlegend99

Referee
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roosters06 said:
It all sounds good in theory, but the allowances for junior players benefit those with large catchment areas.

Teams like the Roosters with small catchment areas would be grossly disadvantaged, and even punished with a smaller cap by some of the proposed schemes.
Boohoo. Why should other teams suffer and have teams like Roosters steal the talent they created?
 

roosters06

Juniors
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mxlegend99 said:
Boohoo. Why should other teams suffer and have teams like Roosters steal the talent they created?

Why should the Roosters suffer because we have such a small catchment area?
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

First Grade
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I don't know. Can you imagine how many players the Broncos could have exempt in a couple of years? Not to mention how much Lockyer alone would free up.

Why do we need to change the cap???
 

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