Anderson gone today.

[wittyfan]

From FoxSports:

Sharks to sack coach today
By James Hooper
December 1, 2003

CRONULLA coach Chris Anderson is expected to have the final year of his contract terminated at a meeting with Sharks directors tonight.

The move will end two months of speculation about who will be head coach in the Shire in 2004 after relations between Anderson and the Sharks became strained before the Kangaroo tour.

Sharks directors have told Anderson to front the meeting with reasons why he should not be axed from the final year of his three-year deal.

The club has issued Anderson with three breach notices in the past three months and believe legally they have a strong argument.

The relationship between Anderson and the board originally became strained when the coach issued the club directors with a "sack me or back me" ultimatum after the Sharks failed to make the finals for the first time in five years.

Things went more sour when the club sacked Anderson's son Jarrad without warning.

Anderson reacted by sacking Sharks football manager Greg Pierce, son of club president Barry Pierce, from the Kangaroo tour.

The Sharks directors then served Anderson with a breach notice informing him he was not allowed to attend training until the issues were resolved.

But he has been allowed to talk to Sharks players, particularly Kangaroo tourists Brett Kimmorley and Phil Bailey, who are both staunch Anderson supporters.

The man who Anderson employed as his assistant before he left for England, Stuart Raper, has been controlling Sharks training.

Raper is now tipped to be named head coach once Anderson is shown the door.

Is it the best thing for the Sharks? No.

Anderson has implemented a new infrastructure at Cronulla during the past two seasons and should be allowed to finish the job he has started.

The Sharks missed the finals last season but Anderson has overwhelming support among the players and his coaching credentials speak for themselves.

The main reason high-profile players such as Kimmorley, Bailey, Nigel Vagana and Andrew Lomu have signed with the Sharks is because of Anderson.

Sadly the matter looks headed for the courts.

The Daily Telegraph

Have Vagana and Lomu come out and ever said they signed with the club because Anderson was the coach? :?

 

[dannyboy]

Did Vagana & Lomu sign with the Sharks because Anderson was the coach? Maybe not the sole reason but certainly a huge influence.

How many big name players signed to be coached by Langmack ???

 

[King of the Hill]

sullyfan I actually saw that article and came on here to state my opinion about that exact same point

The main reason high-profile players such as Kimmorley, Bailey, Nigel Vagana and Andrew Lomu have signed with the Sharks is because of Anderson.

Kimmorley: without a club after Northern Eagles didnt pay him, a stable pay cheque is what he wanted most but here Anderson was a major factor
Bailey: a "high-profile" player when he was signed? He was a fringe first grader who came to Cronulla for more money
Vagana: when he signed with Cronulla he had NEVER MET CHRIS ANDERSON!! Wanted a cushy deal with a view to retirement. He has stated this on a number of occasions
Lomu: Would have signed for Sharks on a much bigger deal than his Roosters deal and I've never read anywhere that he signed because of Anderson. Is he all that high profile?

I'd say a more accurate statement would be "The main reason players like Dean Treister, Nick Graham, Paul Mellor and Preston Campbell left the Sharks is because of Chris Anderson" And CA telling Mat Rogers he'd play wing no matter what had a bit to do with Rat leaving, if you believe what Mat says.

They could also add "The main reason pathetic players like Greg Bird, Jarrod Anderson, No names Wessel and Tweddle signed is because of Chris Anderson." But that would be showing a level of knowledge inconsistent with opinionated journalists

 

[King of the Hill]

accidental double post

 

[King of the Hill]

another accidental post sorry folks had errors with the system

 

[SirShire]

Same shit everytime. 'Expected' to sack CA. I wish these journos would shut up with these articles, until the decision has been made. Nothing changes.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

The bludgers are just re hashing...... :roll:

 

[Nuffs]

Kimmorley - obviously a major factor was Ando coaching. still, if i got offered so much to play for a better club i'd take it

Bailey - read somewhere in the papers that it was Ando that contacted Bailey and said he thought he was going places. also read in the papers that Michael Jackson isn't a freak. believe what you will.

Vagana - don't think Ando had a great input into his decision. maybe a better halfback in side him did though :lol:

Lomu - might not even make the side if Ando goes. if he stays, he will probably be our benchie. Ando likes his "winning culture" and i think Lomu was hoping for more exposure by signing under Ando

 

[Mr Angry]

Yes of course the Sharks had never signed anyone of note until Ando came, and naturally should he leave we will never sign anyone of note again.

Just sort it out either way.

 

[Macca]

To be honest, I don't agree with the opinions of the telegraph's subjective journo's. I agree with this article though.

It may seem like re-hash to some of you but I think that it is obvious they would write something today about Ando, even if it is already obvious to us.

On the signings of those players, it is true that Ando brought Kimmorley and Bailey to the club, our two players who represented the country. As for the others, I simply don't know, so I won't speculate.

I am sure that playing for the National coach is a factor when signing with Cronulla though. Practically all the players at the club at the moment have nothing but support for Ando, they want to play for him.

He should be there to atleast attempt to finish the job he started with the "new infrastructure" he created. We will be no worse off than we are now.

That's my opinion anyway.

 

[King of the Hill]

This is another lie from the historical revisionist:

Things went more sour when the club sacked Anderson's son Jarrad without warning

Jarrad Anderson's son fronted the club when Papa was away and demanded a pay increase far and away bigger than what he deserved. It was an ultimatum. The Sharks must have thought all their Christmases had come at once. They turned down his demands and Ando went crazy.

They didnt sack JA. JA walked.

 

[carcharias]

Anyone got any idea on what Rapers thoughts on the flat attack are. Am I to believe that we might see the ball go wide next year if Ando goes??
2003 was the lowest point in my shark supporting carreer.
We got clobbered every week for the first 2 months then won a couple then got clobbered for the rest of the year.
It was heart breaking. My anger has all but gone now ...but if Anderson had been within earshot I would of told him so.
Then Penrith win the comp with Preston , Lang's and co .
Ando carried on like a tool which might I add has rubbed off on Bailey quite nicely.
Back me Sack me . I want to win the comp. Losing culture .Underdone....GOOOORRRDDD!!!
I hope its a clean decision tonight ...but I get the feeling this will end like a Mike Tyson fight. A calamity.

 

[dannyboy]

Carcharias

Obviously you don't have a good memory of (or weren't born for):
The first 3 years: 1967-1969
The mid 70's (after Tommy left)
The mid 80's
The mid 90's

The Sharks have had grim times in the past too you know & under equally well regarded coaches.

Is it the coach???
Is it the team???
Is it the coach???
Is it the team???

Hmmmmmmm

 

[wittyfan]

Carcharias

Obviously you don't have a good memory of (or weren't born for):
The first 3 years: 1967-1969
The mid 70's (after Tommy left)
The mid 80's
The mid 90's

The Sharks have had grim times in the past too you know & under equally well regarded coaches.

Is it the coach???
Is it the team???
Is it the coach???
Is it the team???

Hmmmmmmm

I've been a Sharks fan since 1985 and nothing compares to the calamity that was 2003.

 

[PB]

As an anti-anderson person, part of me wants Anderson to keep his job at the sharks and fall flat on his face again, to really proove him wrong...

but then i think, that sharks supporters shouldnt have to put up with that crap again, it just isnt fair. So i hope he goes and you guys have an improved season.

 

[eternaltreblinka]

All the players were down at the beach today posing for a photo around the rock pool. Raper was there, though not in the photo, but no Ando. Bailey didn't look too worried about being there. It would seem the club's pretty confident of tonight's outcome if they're letting the photographers loose.

 

[wittyfan]

All the players were down at the beach today posing for a photo around the rock pool. Raper was there, though not in the photo, but no Ando. Bailey didn't look too worried about being there. It would seem the club's pretty confident of tonight's outcome if they're letting the photographers loose.

Very confident considering nothing is official yet.

 

[Sheros los Deros]

As an anti-anderson person, part of me wants Anderson to keep his job at the sharks and fall flat on his face again, to really proove him wrong...

I agree with you PB. Let's show some patience on this issue. See what happens under Anderson this year, and watch him shoot himself in the foot yet again. That way the Ando apologists won't have anything to whinge about, and the media won't be able to preach about how we made the wrong decision. There won't be any need for protracted court cases to drag the club to the brink of financial ruin.

 

[Macca]

Thats bloody ridiculous the coach is never in the rock pool photo only the sit down one.

Were any trainers in the photo? Maybe they will get the sack too, stop rumour mongering.

 

[King of the Hill]

I, for one, dont want the Sharks to struggle again this year just so Ando is humiliated.

That's silly, immature crazy-talk.