Andrew Webster

[SpaceMonkey]

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He got pinged for inside the 10 once, I think it was when the ref gave a penalty and then rescinded to a 6 again cause it happened just outside the 40. But he was solid throughout and did a good job.

true, statistically that’s a penalty not an error so I missed it. One is forgivable for a workrate forward though I think. Especially considering how much the opposition were abusing the 10 on the other side.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I think Roosters fans will be feeling very similar to us right now. Got a very unexpected result, can't put their finger on exactly why, and not necessarily thinking that will translate to future success.

Huge game next week at Go Media

 

[Big Marn]

He got pinged for inside the 10 once, I think it was when the ref gave a penalty and then rescinded to a 6 again cause it happened just outside the 40. But he was solid throughout and did a good job.

Im recalling that as being against Dylan Walker, as i was thinking at the time he had done 2 dumb things in a row. I cant remember what the first thing was though...

 

[Izz]

Im recalling that as being against Dylan Walker, as i was thinking at the time he had done 2 dumb things in a row. I cant remember what the first thing was though...

Tried a one-on-one strip on the 4th, knocking the ball on in the process

 

[Meth]

I thought Ford was far more effective yesterday. Came on and rolled his sleeves up and kept the pressure on, good metres and no errors.

By his standard, it was a good game.

The problem is that his standard, good is still pretty plod.

 

[nswarrior]

Have to give it to Webster - was surprised there were no changes after Vegas but he got the best out of the team we have.

The reality is we have a good forward pack but one of the weaker back lines in the comp.

 

[nswarrior]

Andrew Webster has to take a lot of blame for the thrashing against Storm. He just rolls out the same conservative playbook and doesn’t adapt to the team we are playing

He is one of the best coaches we have ever had but he has to improve if we are to seriously challenge for the premiership

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Yeah, I dunno. I don't see it now with Webster. Injuries led to the reshuffle that got us playing well last year for a time, rather than the willingness to change his side.

I get the feeling he's too loyal, too close to the players, too conservative.

We can win the games like the Roosters and Tigers on attitude but don't we as fans want to see something that can challenge the top sides? The Broncos could murder us next week, too if they click.

 

[Big Marn]

Yeah, I dunno. I don't see it now with Webster. Injuries led to the reshuffle that got us playing well last year for a time, rather than the willingness to change his side.

I get the feeling he's too loyal, too close to the players, too conservative.

We can win the games like the Roosters and Tigers on attitude but don't we as fans want to see something that can challenge the top sides? The Broncos could murder us next week, too if they click.

2 lopsided results in a row and the clock starts ticking louder for him. Interestingly, there are injury forced changes incoming. Taupiki at fullback should be one.

 

[Shaun Hewitt]

I would normally question him and berate a coach after that type of performance.
HOWEVER, I don't necessarily blame him solely for the Storm loss.

I don't mean to sound like I'm making excuses here, but

We were missing our two most senior backline players (DWZ and RTS), and lost our influencial captain JFH fairly early on in the piece. Add to that, we were down to 12 for a quarter of that half. We had an absolute horror start 36-0 down.

AND to further that, Storm would be the competition favorites.

We then went on to win the second half (Granted, the game was a forgone conclusion by that point)

To be honest, at half-time, I was expecting at least 50 points on us.

Had this loss come against another team (the manner), or if it were different players out (not the leaders) then my eye brows would be a little higher than they are now.

Our backline just isn't good enough. The only ones I'd be upset if they'd left would be Taine and Ali. Individually, I wouldn't miss any of the others as harsh as that may sound

 

[Meth]

Yeah I don’t have an issue. The Storm with Hughes are that much better than any other side at this stage. Better spine. Better coach. Better system

 

[nswarrior]

Webby you legend - great to get a win against the Broncos with key players out. I think 4 out of the back 5 were out for the game

 

[Meth]

These results are delightfully inconvenient for my view that the side isn’t looking particularly well coached. But I still hold that view

 

[TheDMC]

These results are delightfully inconvenient for my view that the side isn’t looking particularly well coached. But I still hold that view

They certainly don't look well-coached on attack. It's quite embarrassing how long we spend fluffing around in the attacking 20 without getting any result. On the upside, they certainly have some team spirit and fight, can defend pretty well, seem to be one of the fitter teams, and respect the ball well (high completions).

 

[Penrose Warrior]

They certainly don't look well-coached on attack. It's quite embarrassing how long we spend fluffing around in the attacking 20 without getting any result. On the upside, they certainly have some team spirit and fight, can defend pretty well, seem to be one of the fitter teams, and respect the ball well (high completions).

Exactly. I think Meth can still be partly right - clearly something we are doing on D is good, actually pretty damn good and whether that's just purely attitude or coaching, I'm not sure.

And I agree with what he said too about that CHT needs to be in the 17 but I don't see him as our 6, and Leiataua needs to go back to the right.

But we're winning, Webster is a conservative guy and we ain't seeing changes if we keep winning. Fair enough, too. But our attack is still threadbare. We don't seem to score off strong backline cohesion or plays out on by our halves.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

That's what I love about this site, we don't have to drink the Kool aid. Yeah, Metcalf did some things well yesterday and the last kick was pure, but the four he missed were awful. And he's still not an NRL half, and we are actually looking like at full strength, we could be a borderline top 4 team if we had one and he could play 6

 

[Blair]

That's what I love about this site, we don't have to drink the Kool aid. Yeah, Metcalf did some things well yesterday and the last kick was pure, but the four he missed were awful. And he's still not an NRL half, and we are actually looking like at full strength, we could be a borderline top 4 team if we had one and he could play 6.

Yeah, Metcalf has legs. Someone needs to put him into gaps not the other way round.

 

[sup42]

We have a weak team compared to some on paper and we are in the top four.

That is the coach.

Last year we had clear signs of disharmony at the club with our top forward being suspended internally after walking out on the team.

No surprises the season was a write off. AFB sabotaged Websters season.

Normally after the Warriors have a poor season like that it is the beginning of the end for the coach. The next season (the one we are in now) is where the club fails again to make the eight and the players look disenchanted with the coach and give up in games.

The opposite has happened this year, and that is the first time since Cleary that a Warriors coach has turned around a bad season.

We are playing terribly in attack, we have a legit B side running out there at the moment, and we are in the top four.

That can only be on the coach.

People keep saying they don't understand how we are where we are and that we are gonna fall over.

We are in the top four because of our Defence (lord knows it has nothing to do with our attack).

Our game plan is to hold the ball and shut down the opposition.

Webster selects his team line ups based on their ability to follow those two simple game plan instructions, complete, and defend.

Based off that we are camped in the opposition half for hundreds of sets (not literally allow me some wax on me lyrics here, you get the point) but there is a clear game plan to live in the oppositions half off their mistakes.

We are taking a huge gamble on a half back that is not a half back, and a Six who's major strengths are his defence and alternate field kicks.

So far the gamble on Metcalf is working, while his service and attack options are rubbish - his ability to deliver Websters plan by kicking it down town is working.

We have a very mobile forward pack, the Gumby Ford keeps getting picked for that reason, and even though he has zero attack in him, he does allow for Webster to gamble on bringing in his future star backrowers (this week the bench is three NSW cup back rowers how good is that for your development club status). Using Ford means Webster has options that allow him to have a bench that is more geared towards young attack forwards than having tacklebots line bending grinder type bench rotations.

Anywho excuse the rant, but the reason people are confused about why we are doing so well is that we are winning the basics and therefore winning ugly.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Maybe sup is right, and the best balance we have is Metcalf/CHT in terms of what they bring on both sides of the ball. TMM and Boyd may bring more attacking prowess, but maybe they don't fit in our defensive structure.

And maybe these guys need more time to find their feet inside the opposition 20. I dunno. It looks a long way off, when I watch it. At least we're winning in the mean time

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Just came across this, with how important possession and momentum is these days, to be this far ahead of every other side in the comp is a good recipe to stay in the contest in every game