Auckland buy back warriors

[Iafeta]

Interesting choice, do the ARL have the financial clout and administration ability to back the Warriors in the way they need? I thought the Fale group sounded far more interesting prospects as owners. Its no surprise since the business group that took over the Storm that they have gone from strength to strength off the field.

Richard Fail and one of his cohorts went on another Warriors forum - can testify he was straight up loco. He would have been Nathan Tinkler to the sum of 10,000,000. Bloke had absolutely no idea about league, or the club players, or the structure of contracts etc. It was frightening to hear off target he was

ARL are cashed up after Carlaw Park etc.

 

[One Warrior]

Interesting choice, do the ARL have the financial clout and administration ability to back the Warriors in the way they need? I thought the Fale group sounded far more interesting prospects as owners. Its no surprise since the business group that took over the Storm that they have gone from strength to strength off the field.

Not wholly Carlaw Park Heritage Trust/ARL, Autex Industries a long time supporter of league in New Zealand and New Zealand Warriors sponsor haven taken a 33.3% share, so it is a 66.7/33.3 percent split. Autex bring business backing and knowledge, I believe they will have 2 members on the new board.

 

[The Great Dane]

Richard Fail and one of his cohorts went on another Warriors forum - can testify he was straight up loco. He would have been Nathan Tinkler to the sum of 10,000,000. Bloke had absolutely no idea about league, or the club players, or the structure of contracts etc. It was frightening to hear off target he was

ARL are cashed up after Carlaw Park etc.

That sounds interesting, got any choice quotes for us?

 

[Iafeta]

It’s easier to read on another Warriors forum (I probably shouldn’t put the link on here, or mods, can I?)

He really lost his marbles in the press though. He astonishingly started accusing Cameron McGregor (CEO of Auckland RL, second generation rugby league leader, and regarded as a pretty straight up and down dude) as being racist, and then kept doing so, but then had nothing to back it up. Iirc at one point I believe his vision was to essentially assemble the Tongan international team, even though Taumalolo has another 8 odd years to go. The underlying impression I had is for blokes like Blake Green, Simon Mannering, Brian Smith, CEO Cameron George, essentially for European fellows their time was up if he got the gig.

 

[Foreign Legion]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/188363fa3d02a8b483308d4b5ee84121
THE Warriors’ new owners say keeping the country’s best playersin New Zealand will be a priority.
The NRL club went full circle on Wednesday when announcing it had been bought by an arm of original owners, the Auckland Rugby League.

Eric Watson ended 17 years of ownership by selling to the Carlaw Heritage Trust and a financial backer, Autex Industries Limited.

The announcement follows months of speculation, with Watson having previously spurned the advances of the ARL and gone close to accepting an offer from a United
CHT chairman Cameron McGregor said it will initially be business as usual for the club, who have turned around the sub-par form of recent seasons by winning six of their first eight games in 2018.

However, he wants fundamental change to its ability to retain the best Kiwi talent, which isn’t presently the case.

“It is no secret that New Zealand loses up to 800 talented young players every year to Australia and the UK - 500 from Auckland alone,” McGregor said.

“In purchasing the Vodafone Warriors, we have a vision. It starts with a child playing league at the age of six and following a clear path to a professional future without having to leave behind family and friends.

“Our association with Auckland Rugby League ... will bring a clearly defined and integrated pathway to professionalism for local players.

“At the moment, New Zealand is a free-for-all for every professional team in the world.” Media speculation suggested the confidential sale price was $18 million, which would represent a loss for Watson.

However, the English-based businessman said it was in the club’s best interests to be an all-Kiwi entity.

“It is particularly pleasing to see the club formally become part of rugby league’s local governing body and administrator,” Watson said of CHT, an arm of the ARL.

The ARL has been the governing body and administrator of rugby league across the Auckland region since 1909.

It was owner of the Warriors for their first three seasons, having joined what was then the Winfield Cup in 1995.

CHT is a registered charity established in 2009 with the profit from the sale of Auckland’s former league headquarters, Carlaw Park.

Income generated from CHT’s assets benefit the ARL, although George stressed the bodies are independent.

CHT will have a 67 per cent shareholding of the Warriors with the remainder held by Autex Industries.

A new-look board will be appointed, with Warriors chief executive Cameron George the only constant.

The other directors are stepping down, including executive chairman Jim Doyle.

 

[Slackboy72]

jafa

 

[kdalymc]

Why keep them, they suck.
Import more whiteys= success for warriors...
Derrrrr

 

[adamkungl]

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport...owners-announce-plans-to-scrap-u-20-side.html

Smart move. I really hope this sees NZ re-launch a high quality national comp in the next few years

 

[supercharger]

Interesting choice, do the ARL have the financial clout and administration ability to back the Warriors in the way they need? I thought the Fale group sounded far more interesting prospects as owners. Its no surprise since the business group that took over the Storm that they have gone from strength to strength off the field.

Did you see some of the shit fale spewed on other forum? What he said in the media?
I get the feeling like his consortium would have been a disaster for the Warriors and would have wound up being another mess like the Titans. ARL were by far the better of the potential ownership groups.

 

[Perth Red]

No didn't see it and hadnt really taken a good luck at the backers of that bid. Sounds like ARL has some good people and money behind them so hopefully its a success. I know we use the term a lot but Warriors really are the sleeping giants of the NRL. If they ever get it right on and off the field they could be one of the biggest sports clubs in this part of the world. If the amount of Warriors fans that turn up at nib for their games is any indication of the latent support they have it is a massive and untapped!

 

[supercharger]

No didn't see it and hadnt really taken a good luck at the backers of that bid. Sounds like ARL has some good people and money behind them so hopefully its a success. I know we use the term a lot but Warriors really are the sleeping giants of the NRL. If they ever get it right on and off the field they could be one of the biggest sports clubs in this part of the world. If the amount of Warriors fans that turn up at nib for their games is any indication of the latent support they have it is a massive and untapped!

They have enormous potential. Easily accounting for Souths fans at games here in Perth.
They would be one of the big attendances along with Souths if we ever get a team here.

 

[The Great Dane]

It’s easier to read on another Warriors forum (I probably shouldn’t put the link on here, or mods, can I?)

He really lost his marbles in the press though. He astonishingly started accusing Cameron McGregor (CEO of Auckland RL, second generation rugby league leader, and regarded as a pretty straight up and down dude) as being racist, and then kept doing so, but then had nothing to back it up. Iirc at one point I believe his vision was to essentially assemble the Tongan international team, even though Taumalolo has another 8 odd years to go. The underlying impression I had is for blokes like Blake Green, Simon Mannering, Brian Smith, CEO Cameron George, essentially for European fellows their time was up if he got the gig.

Interesting...

So if I understand correctly his basic plan for the club was to make a sort of Polynesian club or even a Tongan club, and to focus on Polynesian patronage and supporting Polynesian players, in a similar nature to the old ethnic soccer clubs.

That's a misguided idea for many, many reasons, but my real question would be why did he think that the Warriors would be the club to experiment with this sort of idea?
The Warriors are an established club with an established identity, how and why would he think that he could warp that identity into what would effectively be an ethnic club, if he was going to attempt this wouldn't it make more sense to start up a new club with these ideals?

Anyway I feel like the only way that he could actually achieve what he seems to want to achieve would be to start his own club, has anybody asked him about the possibility of him and his group starting their own club?

 

[Iafeta]

Quite honestly I think he was completely oblivious and naive to NZ culture. He claims for example he’s a big fan of the club, but in that thread he’s asked as a joke what Sione Lousi would think about his ideas, to which he replied he had absolutely no idea who that was (Sione played 50 odd first grade games for us).

I don’t think he had a clue in terms of scheduling etc or how contracts work in the NRL, I really don’t think he thought he’d need to comply to a salary cap.

The ARL are not perfect buyers. Already they’re talking about discontinuing the Jersey Flegg and ISP teams do that players play in a local semi professional comp from which the Warriors would draw from. The step up from local club football to first grade is far too big and sadly I think this is merely cost cutting to the detriment of the team.

 

[Perth Red]

Interesting...

So if I understand correctly his basic plan for the club was to make a sort of Polynesian club or even a Tongan club, and to focus on Polynesian patronage and supporting Polynesian players, in a similar nature to the old ethnic soccer clubs.

That's a misguided idea for many, many reasons, but my real question would be why did he think that the Warriors would be the club to experiment with this sort of idea?
The Warriors are an established club with an established identity, how and why would he think that he could warp that identity into what would effectively be an ethnic club, if he was going to attempt this wouldn't it make more sense to start up a new club with these ideals?

Anyway I feel like the only way that he could actually achieve what he seems to want to achieve would be to start his own club, has anybody asked him about the possibility of him and his group starting their own club?

Probably because the nrl has no plans for expansion and the chances of a new club base d in Auckland are slim to none! If Auckland were to get another team it wouldn’t actually be a bad idea! Play in Tongan colours and target that market with link ups back to tonga.

 

[magpie_man]

Probably because the nrl has no plans for expansion and the chances of a new club base d in Auckland are slim to none! If Auckland were to get another team it wouldn’t actually be a bad idea! Play in Tongan colours and target that market with link ups back to tonga.

A superfluous, ethnically-based club in an already serviced market is a terrible idea.

 

[The Great Dane]

Probably because the nrl has no plans for expansion and the chances of a new club base d in Auckland are slim to none! If Auckland were to get another team it wouldn’t actually be a bad idea! Play in Tongan colours and target that market with link ups back to tonga.

Firstly, the idea of any ethnic club is a bad idea, even a Tongan one in Auckland, I mean why turn away potential customers like that.

Secondly, why would his club have to be either based in Auckland or in the NRL?
He seems to want a Tongan ethnic club and he's based in Hawaii, why would the club have to be based in Auckland?
For a lot smaller investment and start up funds he could start a club in either the QRL or NSWRL pretty much anywhere in the pan pacific region, get agreements with the local broadcasters to broadcast their games locally, maybe pull off a sponsorship deal with an airline for cheap flights, and still have millions spare from what it would cost to start up an NRL club.

For obvious reasons basing the team in Tonga would probably be a bad idea, I mean you could do it, but it'd be expensive, it'd never be profitable, and the club would face a ton of problems that are simply outside of the sports control.
On the other hand apart from collegiate teams Hawaii has a huge lack of professional sports teams, it has a relativity huge Polynesian population, and it's a stable and prosperous society, he could get everything he wants cheaper by basing his club in Hawaii, and if he really has the backing he says he has he'd have the NSWRL and QRL falling over themselves to get his team to be part of their comps, and from that point if he is successful there's nothing stopping him from bidding for an NRL license in the future.

The top heaviness of the NRL and the way we as a sport in Australia focus so heavily only on the top level of the sport is a terrible thing, it restricts opportunity for growth and leads to turning away opportunities, it's just bad for everybody involved unless you are the most elite of the most elite and we should be trying to change that.
Whatever your opinion on the guy and his plans, we've just turned this Fale bloke away when he wants to invest money into the sport because we aren't flexible and are unable to react to the market quick enough to cease an opportunity because we're basically artificially restricting the amount of investment we can handle as a sport cause we only value the very top echelon of the sport, if we we were flexible we could have negotiated a better outcome for both us and mister Fale, but we're not so he moves on and we let what could potentially have been a good opportunity move on with him...

 

[kdalymc]

Central Coast Tongan Bears ?

 

[9701]

Central Coast Tongan Bears ?

Central Coast Coconut Crushers

 

[Juju]

Richard Fale is delusional.
Just google his name and see some of the articles that come up about his one term political career in Hawaiian.
He's in love with the media attention he gets in NZ - the media have been giving him a pretty much unscrutinised passage - but when you look in a bit closer he is clearly full of $hit.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

When your name is Dick Fale you're always going to be behind the 8 ball in life.