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Balmain might have to get over it and Move On ?

CC_Roosters

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Survival of the current merger is the only solution to have either club continue. They are an important club with many young fans so it is important the arlc help Balmain and thus the wests tigers brand overcome the current mess by implementing good business practice.

A good place to do us would be membership where every club has a rich revenue source waiting to be tapped
 

georgesnmith

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Best case scenario is if Campbelltown gets a full time team that supports the region however plays the bigger games at ANZ, be it the Tigers, Magpies or something else.

thats exactly what should be happening.

say 4 gams at anz, rest at campbelltown

if a league or AFL plonked a team there im sure theyd get a lot of ticked off fans as support
 

big hit!

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The dysfunctional board from the Tigers appear to have been the problem with the merge. Whilst not a match made in heaven this has moved to survival mode. If Wests Magpies were to become a stand alone entity, why would you force them to have the Tigers moniker?
Fanciful....:roll:

This ain't the AFL.

The Magpie moniker in Rugby League has heritage, but it's non-existent in the NRL and many of the new supporters of Wests Tigers in their teens and early twenties identify with the Tigers. The branding and identity of the 'Tiger' has much better opportunities going forward than 'Magpie'.

What Wests could do is take on the license and the commitment that comes with it, and focus on Campbelltown for its inter-metropolitan and smaller intra-metropolitan opposition home games such as Cronulla - Manly - Penrith, but move its home games against Souths - Parra - Saints - Canterbury - Easts to Olympic Stadium. The corporate suites as well as the old Wests areas such as the outer inner west and Lidcome/Auburn area can be serviced here, as well as the Balmain areas north of the river here such as Ryde etc, where kids, teens and younger adult supporters really don't remember or have an allegiance to Western Suburbs or Balmain - it's always been Wests Tigers for this group.

The issue with retaining the Tiger is the obviously that is not their asset. As I understand it, Wests Tigers is still a JV, so the Tiger would be an asset contributed and owned by Balmain. It would have to be purchased off them which could be significant in the short term. However, it would be beneficial in the long-term.
 

innsaneink

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The dysfunctional board from the Tigers appear to have been the problem with the merge. Whilst not a match made in heaven this has moved to survival mode. If Wests Magpies were to become a stand alone entity, why would you force them to have the Tigers moniker?
Fanciful....:roll:
If anything balmain has always supported the JV, much moreso than the Magpies

Its all balmains shonky corrupt greaseball buddys that have put us in the position we're in.

Like it or not Tiger is more appealing than Magpie - im an ex magpie...at least in Sydney Rugby League....focus on the south west...its booming...put all the energy there
 

gronkathon

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The logic of the South West having their own team is ancient thinking that failed.

We don't want the residents of South West Sydney supporting a team. We want them supporting many teams. We want them following the Dogs, Dragons, Storm, Raiders, Tigers and the rest. That is how you tap the market place.

People supporting their local team solely because they are their local team went out with the cane in schools.

The NRL needs to focus on the South West, not a specific club
 

big hit!

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The logic of the South West having their own team is ancient thinking that failed.

We don't want the residents of South West Sydney supporting a team. We want them supporting many teams. We want them following the Dogs, Dragons, Storm, Raiders, Tigers and the rest. That is how you tap the market place.

People supporting their local team solely because they are their local team went out with the cane in schools.

The NRL needs to focus on the South West, not a specific club

fine if you have 3 or 4 clubs in the metropolitan.

but there are 9 at present.

the AFL shows what happens when you have so many clubs generically tying themselves to the whole metropolitan. the big clubs get bigger, the smaller struggle.

even if you relocate Wests to Perth, there will still be 8 clubs in the Sydney metropolitan. Far too many clubs to just be generically tied to the metropolitan without some tapping into regions within it. They would be all competing for the same corporate $$$ and supporters. Some will need to focus on a region to supplement it. Wests would still be a metropolitan team with games against the bigger clubs at Olympic Stadium, but also focus on their narrower but growing market for other matches.
 

MacDougall

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The Balmain JRLFC is currently the strongest in the country so if anybody takes over the Wests Tigers and decides to abandon the Balmain area they have rocks in their head. Two time reigning SG Ball and national champions? It might only be a relatively small catchment but the place absolutely bleeds Rugby League and has produced countless legends of the game.

Are some of you seriously suggesting just leaving the area for another club to absorb? Why?
 

Balmain Bug

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The Balmain JRLFC is currently the strongest in the country so if anybody takes over the Wests Tigers and decides to abandon the Balmain area they have rocks in their head. Two time reigning SG Ball and national champions? It might only be a relatively small catchment but the place absolutely bleeds Rugby League and has produced countless legends of the game.

Are some of you seriously suggesting just leaving the area for another club to absorb? Why?

This story is a beat up by Benny Elias who is trying to sponge more money from them. When Balmain fold nothing will change except Wests Ashfield will own Wests Tigers. Balmain Juniors will still be run by Wests Tigers as they have been for a while. Nothing will change.
 

georgesnmith

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This story is a beat up by Benny Elias who is trying to sponge more money from them. When Balmain fold nothing will change except Wests Ashfield will own Wests Tigers. Balmain Juniors will still be run by Wests Tigers as they have been for a while. Nothing will change.

if that did happen would they still be playing games at leichardt oval?
 

pHyR3

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Grant Mayer (CEO of WT) denied the claims made in that article, saying we will NOT be moving or relocating.
 

BunniesMan

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Interesting. The NRL has used club weakness to inject themselves into the running of the club. If Balmain can't get the money together and Wests can't/won't take it over then the NRL will have the power to move the club.

There is a very strong chance we'll have the WA Tigers in 2016.

As for the South West of Sydney. If anything happens to the Tigers, it's not as if that area will be lost to league. It'll be carved up by the 3 other western clubs.
 
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BunniesMan

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This story is a beat up by Benny Elias who is trying to sponge more money from them. When Balmain fold nothing will change except Wests Ashfield will own Wests Tigers. Balmain Juniors will still be run by Wests Tigers as they have been for a while. Nothing will change.

Not necessarily. Are Wests Ashfield able or willing to take on the risk of singlehandedly owning the club?
 

insert.pause

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Interesting. The NRL has used club weakness to inject themselves into the running of the club. If Balmain can't get the money together and Wests can't/won't take it over then the NRL will have the power to move the club.

There is a very strong chance we'll have the WA Tigers in 2016.

As for the South West of Sydney. If anything happens to the Tigers, it's not as if that area will be lost to league. It'll be carved up the 3 other western clubs.

There is next to no chance that the Tigers will be relocated. The NRL 'injected' themselves in because the merger broke down over funding, it was just as much about governance as it was about money. If the NRL wanted them to relocate they could have let the club fall over in the first instance and then relocate them.
 

Perth Red

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If it fails put the license out for tender and let any city bid for it. Wests Pirates anyone?
 

MacDougall

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There is next to no chance that the Tigers will be relocated. The NRL 'injected' themselves in because the merger broke down over funding, it was just as much about governance as it was about money. If the NRL wanted them to relocate they could have let the club fall over in the first instance and then relocate them.

Take a step back. The NRL are strategically setting themselves up for expansion in 2016. Having a club fall over right now wouldn't be good. But giving them TWO YEARS of funding so they can maintain through to the expansion time... So on and so forth.
 

MacDougall

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If it fails put the license out for tender and let any city bid for it. Wests Pirates anyone?

So if the Wests Tigers moved to Perth, branding and all, you just wouldn't like it? What's the logo really got to do with it? If they move Wests Tigers in tact all branding goes with and the Tigers colours, logo and junk is recognisable. There's also a large portion of the fanbase that wouldn't stop supporting them so they'd have extra fans than just what they make in Perth and they could probably lure most of the players as well.
 
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