Best Warriors team ever

[kiwi knights fan]

what do you al think the best warrior's team would be

Mine

1) Ivan Clery
2) Sean Hoppe
3) Nigel Vangana
4) Dean Bell
5) Brent Webb
6) Greg Alexander
7) Stacey Jones
8 Joe Vagana
9) PJ Marsh
10) Richard Villisanti
11) Steve Kearney
12) Logan Swann
13) Keven Campion

Iv probily mised sum beter players out not to sure tho

 

[southern warrior]

1. Matthew Ridge
2 Sean Hoppe
3.Nigel Vgana
4. Clinton Toopi
5 Frances Meli
6. Lance Hohaia
7. Stacey Jones
8. Jerry Seuseu
9. Pj Marsh
10. Vgana
11. Lauiti'iti
12 Stepeh Kearney
13 Montey Betham

 

[guten_targ]

Best team was the one that made it into the 2002 grand final ..all others pale in comparrison to that teams feat...and no other warriors team has come close to it yet!!

 

[Willow_2003]

1) Ivan Clery
2) Sean Hoppe
3) Nigel Vangana
4) Dean Bell
5) Brent Webb
6) Greg Alexander
7) Stacey Jones
8 Joe Vagana
9) PJ Marsh
10) Richard Villisanti
11) Steve Kearney
12) ?
13) Logan Swann

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!

Come on. One of your wingers has NEVER played wing before, yet you choose him as a best all time Warriors winger? SeuSeu and Vagana are the most likely props, but for God's sake, Villasanti doesn't come close. And it's pretty comical that you can't come up with a second second-rower, since we've been blessed with a wealth of back-rowers every year.

 

[Willow_2003]

1.Ivan Cleary
2.Sean Hoppe
3.Nigel Vagana
4.Clinton Toopi
5.Francis Meli
6.Gene Ngamu
7.Stacey Jones
8.Jerry Seuseu
9.PJ Marsh
10.Joe Vagana
11.Ali Lauiti'iti
12.Stephen Kearney
13.Kevin Campion

How you can have Matthew Ridge or Lance Hohaia in the team is beyond me- Ridge was a great fullback BUT NOT FOR THE WARRIORS, while Hohaia got dropped in his first season and hardly made the team again in his second #-o

Whether or not you rated Ngamu, surely he is still our number 1 stand-off. He's the only one I can think of who ever held the position down for any length of time.

 

[kiwi knights fan]

1) Ivan Clery
2) Sean Hoppe
3) Nigel Vangana
4) Dean Bell
5) Brent Webb
6) Greg Alexander
7) Stacey Jones
8 Joe Vagana
9) PJ Marsh
10) Richard Villisanti
11) Steve Kearney
12) Logan Swann
13) Keven Campion

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!

Come on. One of your wingers has NEVER played wing before, yet you choose him as a best all time Warriors winger? SeuSeu and Vagana are the most likely props, but for God's sake, Villasanti doesn't come close. And it's pretty comical that you can't come up with a second second-rower, since we've been blessed with a wealth of back-rowers every year.

Brent Webb has played on the wing before he joint the warriors and he is twice the player of meli, Fa;feli or anyone elset to play on the wing.
Ngamu was not the best 5/8 he was a good player till he was on defence. Alexander was the best 5/8

 

[ozbash]

Brent Webb has played on the wing before he joint the warriors and he is twice the player of meli, Fa;feli or anyone elset to play on the wing.
Ngamu was not the best 5/8 he was a good player till he was on defence. Alexander was the best 5/8


KKF, you are not serious mate,, surely ??
henry and francis would leave webby for dead. they have the understanding of the rest of the polynesian players for a start,, webby will never have that.

ngamu ? didnt like him,, lowie said he was the bees knees,, but lowie was wrong.

 

[Skinner]

Gene was never (ever) my favourite stand-off. He went OK, but no
more than that (not sure if he was around in our old club, ozbash, when
you were here). Yeah, Lowie liked him and I truely believe he actually
played better footy for Manly than the Warriors.

I really struggle when it comes to "great" Warrior stand-offs. I don't
really think there has been one....not yet anyway...watch the next couple
of years though. There are some absolute crackers coming through.

Cheers
Skinner

 

[AliN]

I'm with GT on this one.

A team effort all round to get us to the Grand Final is the one

 

[ozbash]

no, i never had met gene ngamu. i remember when lowie took him over to sydney. Lowe said he was going to be our next legend but i think thje manly style got in ngamu's way.. he was good but never seemed to progress.

i agree with skinner about our current crop of up and coming stand offs,, someone will shine.. and shine bright.
could be hohaia even :|

 

[Willow_2003]

Gene was never (ever) my favourite stand-off. He went OK, but no
more than that (not sure if he was around in our old club, ozbash, when
you were here). Yeah, Lowie liked him and I truely believe he actually
played better footy for Manly than the Warriors.

I really struggle when it comes to "great" Warrior stand-offs. I don't
really think there has been one....not yet anyway...watch the next couple
of years though. There are some absolute crackers coming through.

Cheers
Skinner

You're probably right, but like I say, he's got to be number one thus far. He's the only one to get a decent run in the side over an extended period.

 

[Auckland4ever]

With the current batch of players we have to choose from in all positions, I wonder if a good, consistent standoff is all thats standing between our club & a GF win. Its such an important position & as someone said before, we havent had a #6 that has really made his mark in the clubs history. Time for someone to step up...

 

[Marty]

1.Brent Webb
2.Sean Hoppe
3.Dean Bell
4.Clinton Toopi
5.Francis Meli
6.Stacey Jones
7.Greg Alexander
8.Ali Lauititi
9.PJ Marsh
10. Jerry Seu Seu
11.Stephen Kearney
12.Awen Guitenbeil
13.Kevin Campion

14.Monty Betham
15.Sione Faumuina
16.Logan Swann
17.Joe Vagana

 

[Meth]

1 Ivan Cleary. (Brent Webb is devastating on attack, but too partial to brain explosions for my liking. Cleary is consistent and provides the all important goal kicking option)

2 Sean Hoppe

3 Clinton Toopi (is set for his best year yet, in my opinion. Playing under Anderson has been great for him)

4 Dean Bell (Vagana is brilliant, but reached his potential elsewhere)

5 Francis Meli (like Toopi. Set for his biggest year yet)

6 Lance Hohaia (five eighth has always been a problem, hasn't it? I was considering picking a relegated half back, but decided against it. Hohaia, in top form, is the closest thing we've had to a 'game by the scruff of the neck' standoff. Having Leuleuai to compete with will do him the world of good)

7 Stacey Jones (no question)

8 Jerry Seu Seu (I'm a big Seu Seu fan. I thought he has been disappointing since the tour to Great Britain, but hopefully he is on the up now. He was the form prop in the game in 2002, for mine)

9 PJ Marsh (hugely important to the warriors success. He was desperately missed around the ruck last year)

10 Joe Vagana (would have thrived under Anderson)

11 Ali Lauiti'iti (devastating form, interupted only by injury. Hopefully we'll see more than touches of his magic in 2004)

12 Stephen Kearney

13 Kevin Campion (I credit Campo, alongside Anderson and co, with turning the joint around)

Reserves-

Logan Swann (I'm a huge Logan Swann fan. He has his critics, but his 2003 form was absolutely stellar.)

Awen Guttenbiel (has flourished in the last two-three seasons)

Terry Hermansson(ok...big call. But I think Terry has a couple of big years at the Warriors. It was a coin toss between Terry, Quentin and Hitro)

Phil Blake (wonderful utility. One of the most gifted players never to play for Australia, looked as good in the warriors jersey as he did in any other)

 

[Robster]

1 Cleary
2 Hoppe
3 Toopi
4 Vagana
5 Meli
6 Ngamu
7 Jones
8 Vagana
9 Mears
10 Villasanti
11 Lautiti
12 Kearney
13 Campion

 

[Willow_2003]

4 Dean Bell (Vagana is brilliant, but reached his potential elsewhere)

How many seasons did Bell play? 1 or 2? Vagana was our best outside back for 3 years straight.

 

[Meth]

I do believe it was one season. Regardless, I still think Dean Bell is one of the greatest players to strap on boots and run onto Erricson.

I guess it depends what kind of center you're looking for....in the same way I'm pro-Anderson, I'm pro-Bell.

Vagana scored 37 tries in 3 seasons at the warriors....he's scored 61 in three seasons at the Bulldogs. Like I said, he's reached his potential elsewhere

 

[Willow_2003]

Yes, but he still scored 37 tries in 3 seasons for us. Dean Bell's single season contribution can't be compared to Nigel Vagana's three year contribution, unless you want to get all sappy and sentimental on me.

 

[Meth]

....unless you want to get all sappy and sentimental on me.

What are you on about?

We're talking football, aren't we? I'd rather have a guy like Bell in my side, and not for the nostalgia

 

[Willow_2003]

What are you on about?

"I'd rather have a guy like Bell in my side". Well that's awesome but hardly relevant. "Best Warriors team ever" isn't about the best players to have played for the Warriors, it's about the players who have played best for the Warriors. A very important distinction. I don't think one seasons contribution by a 33 year old Dean Bell on his last legs compares to 3 good seasons from Nigel Vagana. I'd like to see you explain how it does.