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Big Bash 2020/2021 (Mens and Womens)

Bazal

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It's bizarre watching an Aussie quick bowl an effective yorker.

I thought JL wanted everyone bowling bouncers and knuckle balls?
 

Wizardman

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Hales has always been rocks and diamonds. This season, the diamonds have been flowing pretty freely....one of those guys where if he hits 20, he'll go on with it.
 

Bazal

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Turns out the Strikers needed a decent 20 over score off their 14...160 might have done it

Weatherald was awesome though.
 

Tigers1986

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Thunder batted extremely well (annoying at the collapse last night).

I have huge concerns with Khawaja though, he sometimes fires well but can sometimes hold down an end that puts pressure on the others.

Oh well, finals bound. Be able to have a few beers tomorrow to watch the triple-header and not care about any of the results :)

Hoping that:

Sixers beat Stars

Not fussed on the other 2 game results
 

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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...-stars-and-strikers-relying-on-others-1249155

With just three matches to go in the BBL, here is a look at what the teams need to do on the last day to make the playoffs. Unlike in other leagues, five teams make it to the play-offs in the BBL. While the teams finishing in the top two positions have two cracks to make the final, the other three teams cannot afford to lose a single game in the play-offs.

Perth Scorchers (32 points), Sydney Sixers (32) and Sydney Thunder (31) have qualified for the play-offs already, while Melbourne Renegades are out of contention. The Sixers and the Scorchers will have two cracks at reaching the final.


Each game sees three points on offer for the winning team, plus a 'Bash Boost' bonus point for the team with the highest 10-over score. There is some rain in the forecast for the final round of games, but there should be enough time to fit all three games in on Tuesday.

Perth Scorchers - Played: 13, Points: 32
Last match against: Brisbane Heat

An amazing second half of the season has put Perth Scorchers in pole position. The Scorchers have guaranteed themselves a top two-spot owing to their superior Net Run-Rate. The only team that can go past them is the Sixers. The Scorchers need to win their final game against Brisbane Heat to guarantee finishing top of the league stage. If the Scorchers lose and the Sixers win, then the Scorchers would finish second.
Sydney Sixers - Played: 13, Points: 32
Last game against
: Melbourne Stars

Similar to the Scorchers, the Sixers have also guaranteed themselves a top two-spot in the play-offs thanks to Adelaide Strikers' loss against Sydney Thunder on Monday night. The Sixers can aim for top-of-the-table finish by beating the Stars and hoping the Scorchers lose their game against the Heat.

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Hobart Hurricanes - Played: 13, Points: 27
Last game against: Melbourne Renegades

Hurricanes have their fate in their control. Although they cannot finish in the top two, all they need is a win against bottom-ranked team Melbourne Renegades to qualify for the play-offs. This would take the Hurricanes to 31 points and a spot in the final five. Even if they lose, they can still qualify if the Stars lose to the Sixers and the Heat lose to the Scorchers. However, if one among Heat or Stars win then the Hurricanes will find it hard to qualify even if they get a Bash Boost point due to their inferior Net Run-Rate.

Melbourne Stars - Played: 13, Points: 24
Last game against: Sydney Sixers

The Stars do not have their fate in their control. The Stars play the Sixers in the last league game. The Stars could be eliminated by the time the game starts if the Heat and Hurricanes both win their last league match. However, if the Heat and the Hurricanes both lose then the Stars just need to win their last league game - possibly with a bonus point - to make the final five since they have a higher Net Run-Rate than Adelaide Strikers or Hobart Hurricanes.


Brisbane Heat - Played: 13, Points: 25
Last game against : Perth Scorchers

The Heat need the full four points against the Scorchers to guarantee they reach final five. The maximum they can get is 29 points and that would put them ahead of both the Strikers and also the Stars. If the Heat fail to win the Bash Boost point and win with three points then they would finish with 28 points, and would need to hope that the Hurricanes lose to the Renegades and the Stars do not get four points against the Sixers since the Stars have a superior Net Run-Rate.
Adelaide Strikers - Played: 14, Points: 28

The Strikers missed an opportunity to qualify for the play-offs of their own accord when they lost to Sydney Thunder on Monday. Their best chance is if Hurricanes lose their last league match against the Renegades, and the Stars and the Heat don't get four points from their matches. This would mean that the Strikers would qualify in fourth with 28 points.

However, if the Hurricanes do win their last league match, the Strikers need the Heat and Stars to win without a Bash Boost point (or lose). This would mean that Strikers will go past Heat in terms of Net Run-Rate while they will be ahead of the Stars by one point.
 

TheParraboy

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The Ladder without the bonus point

Pretty much the same other than Thunder in 2nd spot and would have played for a home final - F..k you boost point !!!! (provided sixers lose today)


Scorchers 26
Thunder 24
Sixers 24
Strikers 21
Hobart 21
Heat 18
Stars 17
Renegades 9
 
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Bazal

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Bonus points are a good idea, but the way they've done it is silly. What if you go at 5 an over for the first ten, but don't lose any wickets and then smack 130 off the last ten? You could roll the other mob for 80 off 12, win by 100 and "lose" the bonus point...

Better to do it as a measure of a victory IMO. Chase within a certain number of overs (16?) or bowl the chasing side out under a certain percentage, for eg

I get why they threw it at the tenth, it's an attempt to create secondary interest, but it just doesn't make any cricketing sense.
 

TheParraboy

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Scorchers won toss and will bowl

Last throw of the dice for the Heat, need a win with the bonus point



Scorchers Jason Roy, Liam Livingstone, Colin Munro, Josh Inglis (wk), Mitch Marsh, Ashton Turner (capt), Aaron Hardie, Jhye Richardson, Andrew Tye, Jason Behrendorff, Fawad Ahmed.

X-factor subs: Joel Paris, Kurtis Patterson

Heat Max Bryant, Chris Lynn (capt), Marnus Labuschagne, Joe Denly, Joe Burns, Jimmy Peirson (wk), Lewis Gregory, Mark Steketee, Xavier Bartlett, Mitch Swepson, Ben Laughlin

X-factor subs: Jack Wildermuth, Morne Morkel
 

AlwaysGreen

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This might be a T Boon type idea, and should only stay if they persist with a bonus point, but whoever scores the most runs in the power play and power surge gets the bonus point. If even wickets lost decides it.
 
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Bonus points are a good idea, but the way they've done it is silly. What if you go at 5 an over for the first ten, but don't lose any wickets and then smack 130 off the last ten? You could roll the other mob for 80 off 12, win by 100 and "lose" the bonus point...

Better to do it as a measure of a victory IMO. Chase within a certain number of overs (16?) or bowl the chasing side out under a certain percentage, for eg

I get why they threw it at the tenth, it's an attempt to create secondary interest, but it just doesn't make any cricketing sense.

why not do both?
 

Bazal

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why not do both?

I think it would be too much. Speaking from tangentially similar experience, we had a season or two where we had a bonus point for;

-Scoring over 275
-Chasing within 35 overs
-Bowling the opposition out within 35 overs
-Bowling the opposition out for less than 75% of your score
-Losing within 25% of the opponents score
-Losing by 2 wickets or less (ie kind of 25%)

It was a f**ken mess. 6 points for a win and 6 extra points on offer?

I might be ok with both if they upped a win to four points...but it seems silly to me to have nearly as many bonus points on offer as actual win points. To me at least. It just starts messing too much with the ladder, you start to get teams with fewer wins than sides below them based on one or two floggings.
 

Bazal

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Haha we say it every game, but where on earth do they find these umpires? That's moved two feet off the pads...

Better off going full village and having the players umpire themselves
 

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