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BIG STRONG AND UGLY EH?? Well, Ugly anyway.

Suitman

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I've come home from the game tonight so disheartened.

For the last 18 months, we have tolerated (barely) a constant of sub-standard performances, intermingled with a couple of great escapes and the very odd genius performance (Brisbane 2003).

Injuries were given as a major reason, and to an extent, I accepted that.
Should not have depth overcome that though?

The changing nature of the game, that B. Smith willingly and honestly admitted we had not been able to keep up with, was also thrust forward as a reason for our falling behind other clubs.
To an extent, I could understand that.

The salary cap was another reason thrown at us. We had developed so many top line players in the preceeding two or three years, that to keep them all would have sent us soaring over our legal budget. Some had to be let go.

All legitimate reasons if put into context.

I also fully understand that 1 game does not make a season.

But, having claimed all of the above, the Parramatta club tonight put their credibility on the line.
They have been quite happy to pump through the press over the last couple of weeks the "big, strong and ugly" concept that has been put on the line by Brian Smith as the 'WAY FORWARD".

On top of that, if ever the Bulldogs were there for the taking, if ever a team needed no motivation to bury a mortal enemy, tonight was the night.

And what did our "team of the present and future" dish up for us loyal suckers. A performance lacking so much in passion and motivation, you'd think that Hansie Cronje was captain and had a buck or two on the opposition.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. Ever since Vella put his name on a contract that saw his eyes ticking over like a cash register, he has performed like a man possessed - possessed of a lot of money and happy to accept it for nicks.

Can someone PLEASE tell me how many times Wagon actually got the ball wide to either his left or right centre?

Blah blah blah Wagon got players player last year. Well, if he isn't played out of position again this season, he may well be in the running again.
Five eighth my arse.

Thorman. Why in the hell do we bring someone out from England who comes with high raps, has played a deal of Super League, and performed admirably against the Aussies for England B, has a genuine passion and desire to succeed for the Eels in the NRL, and we give him sweet F.A. time in the trials and stick him on the bench for Premier League. I'm not saying that l he is the answer to our prayers, but at least give him a half reasonable shot at it.

It is time.

Tonight, injuries weren't an excuse. We were as close to full strength as we possibly could be.
Salary cap bollocks. We got rid off who we thought weren't cutting it and bought who we thought would.

And we bought BIG. to counter the way the game is now being played.
To play the way Brian Smith said is the way the game has gone.
Well, sadly, tonight, I saw neither big nor strong. But I saw plenty of ugly.

Ugly skills.
Ugly organisation
Ugly passion.
Ugly, ugly defence.
And an ugly scoreboard as a reward for all the ugliness.

As i started this with, it just left me so disheartened.

And to think I went to the game with money on our boys and a confidence and belief that the propaganda thrown at us all had a healthy and believeable realism to it.

Silly me. And people wonder why I am cynical.

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Suitman said:
They have been quite happy to pump through the press over the last couple of weeks the "big, strong and ugly" concept that has been put on the line by Brian Smith as the 'WAY FORWARD".

And that was our problem all along. Pumping it all through the press is just asking for trouble. Sure, its only one game, and it might be a loss that we can learn valuable lessons from in terms of team selections and how to form up those that we bought into the best 17, but you don't go bellowing out for 2 months about how you have done this and that to become a big force again. Stupid and asking to put your own head on the block, which is exactly what happened tonight.

I actually think that Smithy's mistake was letting other people dictate how he plays the game. He was always a coach that combined speed, size and skill quite well, and the first half of 02 and second half of 03 when our injuries were minimal showed that that particular style can do relatively well under whatever set of rules.

But all of a sudden everyone has decided that the game is different now, and Smithy just decides to fall into line and change everything about the way he coaches and they way he runs a team? When did Smithy ever fall into line, and do things the way others said it should be done?

Get some ballwork back into the squad, don't become over-obsessed with size and stregnth and all that crap, and let the Eels play the way we should - with flair and exhuberance.
 

Pazza

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Get some ballwork back into the squad, don't become over-obsessed with size and stregnth and all that crap, and let the Eels play the way we should - with flair and exhuberance.

Too right
 

Suitman

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Hollywood Jesus said:
Suitman said:
They have been quite happy to pump through the press over the last couple of weeks the "big, strong and ugly" concept that has been put on the line by Brian Smith as the 'WAY FORWARD".

And that was our problem all along. Pumping it all through the press is just asking for trouble. Sure, its only one game, and it might be a loss that we can learn valuable lessons from in terms of team selections and how to form up those that we bought into the best 17, but you don't go bellowing out for 2 months about how you have done this and that to become a big force again. Stupid and asking to put your own head on the block, which is exactly what happened tonight.

I actually think that Smithy's mistake was letting other people dictate how he plays the game. He was always a coach that combined speed, size and skill quite well, and the first half of 02 and second half of 03 when our injuries were minimal showed that that particular style can do relatively well under whatever set of rules.

But all of a sudden everyone has decided that the game is different now, and Smithy just decides to fall into line and change everything about the way he coaches and they way he runs a team? When did Smithy ever fall into line, and do things the way others said it should be done?

Get some ballwork back into the squad, don't become over-obsessed with size and stregnth and all that crap, and let the Eels play the way we should - with flair and exhuberance.

Couldn't agree more. Especially the bit about getting some ballwork back into the squad.

We have not had the same pair of halves, or really quality halves, for 2 seasons in a row under Smiths reign.
During the same time, class acts like Gower, Kimmorley and Orford have floated around the market.
Yes, we bought Dykes, and for that I am truly greatful. He is a class act.
But until Smith has a SETTLED pair of halves that work together, we will not win a comp.
For ****'s sake, Wagon?????????????????????????????????

SPARE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suity
 

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i would like to know what's happened to our defensive prowess... we were once a solid wall, and now we have more gaps than the cheese with holes in it. everyone knows sherwin has the best grubber in the game, yet he still freely exploited us all night long. we could've smashed thurston, but instead he ran right through us over and over again

the bulldogs do not have more talent than us, but they played with so much more enthusiasm and confidence. their game plan was much more complete. and these areas are put simply, the realm of the coach. normally i understand parra being inconsistent at the start of the season - i know in the past it's been smithy's plan to start slow and build form as we reach the finals. but it's been well-pointed out through the media just how "tough" our off-season has been. and as our arch-rivals, we should never go into a bulldogs game with anything less than 100% commitment to winning

our players have to take some responsibilty too. there's no excuse for any team in the nrl to have 40 points or whatever it was put on them in 40 minutes of football, no matter how good the other team is playing. my high hopes vella would turn it around this season are practically estinguished already. i'm prepared to give everyone in the team more chances but honestly, i don't remain very hopeful right now

wake up, you clowns!
 

Misty Bee

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HJ reckons Smith we should learn fromtonight, and improve. Like, what about the past 2 seasons of shite?

As for Smith 'listening to everyone else" well, is there anyone on the planet geniused enough to tell him to pick bloody Wagon at 5/8???? The mindboggles!

HJ, tell Smithy that I stop voices telling me what to do by taking a nice little pill. I'll lend him some - I'm sure Nurse Ratchet won't mind a bit!
 

Rylesy

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All I will say is thank god Planet and I couldn't make it as we were stuck at Jnr Footy For Guildford all day AND thank god I didn't go there to see it. Although I am not a Parra Fan as such at the end of the day I still want them to go well for my friends sake and my hubbys. It was horrible seeing them play like that. It was a disgrace seeing Parra play like that! Unfortunately next week I think they have a harder game on the cards..... Brisbane! I just hope they improve each week.
 

0neye

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WOOF WOOOFWhat happed Parra you're all huff & puff to fat to slow,THE DOGS RIPPED YOU TO BITS :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;-)
 

Goleel

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Nice relevant addition to the conversation, idiot.

It's just sad to watch the team go around and get done like that. Last year I got upset when for the first time in what, 6 or 7 years, we got more than 40 put on us. Nowadays I think of the defense we had in the late 90's and 2000/01, and no wonder Dean Pay doesn't want anything to do with us, it's a disgrace to the way the side played back then the way they defend now. No heart or pride, and close to the line you may as well throw four points on the scoreboard and save the opposition the effort. It's not just the nothing players making mistakes either, Lyon was poor, Vella deserves the 'nothing' tag now the way he's been going, Burt was pathetic at best.

You'd hope they turn it around, and fast. There are no excuses this year.
 

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0neye said:
WOOF WOOOFWhat happed Parra you're all huff & puff to fat to slow,THE DOGS RIPPED YOU TO BITS :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;-)

Your time is fast approaching.
Make the most of this while you can sonny.

Suity
 

noosa-eel

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I would use something abit stronger like f**n ugly, that game was a nightmare to watch, it reminded me of the gf against the knights which i am still haunted by.
I know it was only the 1st game but that effort was pathetic, i was looking forward to it so much and to be handed that crap really annoys the hell out of me.

All i can say is they had better do some hard work during the week because i will be at the game against the ponies this sunday and don't want to witness an effort like that.
 
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