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Rule tweaks incoming?

kurt faulk

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I think the baseball extra innings rule of starting with a runner on second base is a good one.

Lame.

You probably think the nfl should have the scoring team keep possession and try a 4th and 15 instead of trying an onside kick.

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snickers007

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Text version for those unable to read:

Players will be sent to the sin bin up to 15 minutes after committing a high tackle that forces an opponent out of a game with concussion under a radical proposal put forward by a handful of NRL coaches.

Hoping to achieve consistency when it comes to punishing high tackles, the coaches approached the governing body late last month to suggest testing a new rule as early as the pre-season trials, which begin on Friday.

Fans were left frustrated and confused at times last season by a perceived lack of consistency in imposing penalties on players guilty of high tackles.

One of the most controversial examples involved the New Zealand Warriors, when Roger Tuivasa-Sheck was knocked out by a high shot from Canterbury skipper Stephen Crichton, who remained on the field.

Crichton was subsequently hit with a grade-two careless high tackle charge by the match review panel, and NRL referees boss Graham Annesley later admitted the on-field officials had erred in not sending him to the sin bin.

Referees still have the option to send a player straight from the field if they deem a high tackle could have caused serious injury.

But under the new proposal put forward by select coaches, the sin bin would only be used if the tackled player failed a head injury assessment. The player will remain on the field until the HIA results are made known.

Even if a player needed the maximum 15 minutes to undergo concussion testing protocols, and failed, play would be stopped and the offender given a ten-minute time-out.

For example, if Penrith’s Nathan Cleary tackled Manly’s Tom Trbojevic high in the 20th minute, and Trbojevic failed his HIA in the 35th minute, only then would Cleary be sent to the bin.

“It’s all about trying to get more consistency in terms of what is a sin bin and what is not a sin bin when it comes to high tackles,” one club official who was aware of the situation but not authorised to speak publicly told this masthead.

Fans will question the fairness of a situation where an offending player scored a try while still on the field only to subsequently be sent to the bin when a tackled player failed an HIA, or whether referees should go as far to send a player off if the tackled player did not return.

One NRL coach, who had not heard about the proposal late on Monday and spoke on the condition of anonymity, asked what would stop clubs trying to hit a star player with a high tackle late in a game if they knew there would be no immediate sin-binning until the HIA results were in.

The NRL were contacted but declined to comment on the proposals.

Even if the rule change is rushed in for the Pre-season Challenge, and receives positive feedback, the ARL Commission would not rubber-stamp any tweaks to the laws of the game until the start of the 2026 season because they have already committed to no rule changes for this year.

The only messaging that has been received in clubland is that referees plan to crack down on sloppy play-the-balls in the early rounds. This masthead highlighted last August that officials had failed to punish Penrith for a string of illegal play-the-balls when they steamed home late to beat Parramatta.

The obstruction rule will also be a focus, with referees told to reward good attacking play rather than poor defensive reads where a defender appears to be taken out.
 

Desert Qlder

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Murphy's general laws​

  • If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which a procedure can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for, will promptly develop.
  • It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
  • Every solution breeds new problems.
  • If anything can't go wrong on its own, someone will make it go wrong.
 

kurt faulk

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They tried to make a grey area into a black and white area. Impossible.

Either the player was obstructed or not. Can't put a blanket interpretation over every time it happens.

As we have found out, it causes just as much controversy. I'd rather the controversy when the right decision has been made.

Of course were telling about referees here so they'll f**k it up somehow.

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PARRA_FAN

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When I saw that Union had a similar rule where the yellow card would turn into a red card if the player failed his HIA, I knew some nuffy would think it would be a good idea to bring into our game or something similar.

I mean if the referee thinks a tackle is that bad, send him off, doesnt matter if its Cleary, Ponga, whoever. If we're worried about losing the best players in a game, tell him to stop tacking high.
 

yobbo84

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How good's it going to be when the try of the year is taken off someone because the video ref determined they didn't make a "genuine attempt" to play it with their foot
 

Saxon

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Obstruction … if the tackling player wasn’t in a position to make the tackle then it’s no obstruction
Good idea in theory but won't work. When you have Klown and Mutton refereeing they will decide one week that the winger on the other side of the field might have got there, and the next that the second rower 10 feet away had no chance.

Just giving the refs more chance to f**k up.
 

Saxon

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Creepy Crawly reporting on some of the mooted rule changes -

'In respect to the play-the-ball, players will now have to make a genuine attempt to use their foot when playing the ball or risk turning over possession.'
'...it will be at the referee’s discretion what equates to a “genuine attempt”.'

f**k me; here we go again. Giving Klown and Kompany more discretion.
 

kurt faulk

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'In respect to the play-the-ball, players will now have to make a genuine attempt to use their foot when playing the ball or risk turning over possession.'
'...it will be at the referee’s discretion what equates to a “genuine attempt”.'

f**k me; here we go again. Giving Klown and Kompany more discretion.

It's so dumb. Either you play the ball or don't. Stand up and touch the ball with your foot. How hard is that to regulate?

Do they think the game will come to a standstill if players play the ball properly so they don't want that to happen?

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siv

First Grade
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Simple

HIA assessment sin bins last max 10 min

If the player is cleared to return, then sin binned player can also return

If he fails the HIA assessment then it reverts to a send off

HIA assessments need to be done in 10 minutes or it reverts to a 15 minute sin bin
 

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