Bombs and grubber tries -reduce Points ?

[Firey_Dragon]

I agree with Skeepe on this one. RL is a better specticle today then it ever has been and I cant say that Ive ever been bored when watching a game all season. Seems to me that all this critisism is coming from supporters of teams who arnt so good at scoring trys from bombs. Sour grapes and tall poppy syndrome come to mind.

You mustn't have watched much footy from the 60's or 70's all the way through to the early-mid 90's.

Todays game is all about passing one-out off the ruck hit it up for 5 tackles, then get in a good kick or put on a play. 20 years ago there was ball movement on every play.

Whoever wins the ruck, wins the game, and it makes for a very boring game, unless you get the odd team willing to throw it around.

 

[perverse]

holy f**k me sideways christ locky. why don't we just ban hitups altogether? and jerseys too... sh*t lets just rename the sport to "big hairy men wrestling naked in the mud"...

at least the world cup would have some credibility.

 

[NthKnight]

Dummy half running is what is wrecking the game. It is boring. You have 5 one out plays and then a kick. It is the same every single set. That is very boring. Brisbane score enough from kicks and I hate it then. I don't see why having a turnover if the dummy half is caught with the ball is a bad idea.

If there is no dummyhalf running then we dont need markers. No markers means more players in the defencive line. More players in the defencive line means less gaps. Less gaps means less line breaks. Less line breaks means less trys. Less trys means we are all bored.

Its simple to put together really.

BTW it is rare for a team to run 1 out from dummy half on every tackle of a set, it simply doesnt happen so Im at a loss as to why you whinge so much about it

 

[lockyno1]

You mustn't have watched much footy from the 60's or 70's all the way through to the early-mid 90's.

Todays game is all about passing one-out off the ruck hit it up for 5 tackles, then get in a good kick or put on a play. 20 years ago there was ball movement on every play.

Whoever wins the ruck, wins the game, and it makes for a very boring game, unless you get the odd team willing to throw it around.

Exactly, and Warren Ryan was saying this a few weeks ago on the ABC. Todays game is boring compared to the early-mid 90's

 

[NthKnight]

Exactly, and Warren Ryan was saying this a few weeks ago on the ABC. Todays game is boring compared to the early-mid 90's

I disagree and YES I watched plenty of footy from the mid-80s onwards.

 

[Geohood]

What a surprise, a Roosters fan who doesn't mind tries from kicks. The day you score through the hands is the day Jesus comes back.

So Jesus is already back?

 

[lockyno1]

I disagree and YES I watched plenty of footy from the mid-80s onwards.

So why are crowds down in Sydney if the product is SO GOOD.... In the 80's-90's plenty of crowds that beat Sydney's crowd. The product was better simple as that.

 

[NthKnight]

So why are crowds down in Sydney if the product is SO GOOD.... In the 80's-90's plenty of crowds that beat Sydney's crowd. The product was better simple as that.

1 very simple answer - F O X T E L

 

[sooperdooper]

i think the problem here is the fact he thinks toupou is the only ball player in the comp

 

[tiger_nick]

I agree its frustrating.

There is nothing worse then having your team hold out the opposition for 5 tackles with great defence, then see them score from an arsey bomb to the corner that was knocked down then juggled by about 4 different players.

I also think its unfair that these days you have to be 6 foot to play on the wing.

Maybe say you cant kick over the players heads from inside the 20? I think thats fair enough

 

[lockyno1]

1 very simple answer - F O X T E L

Wrong, the product was better. Better advertising campaign (Tina Turner's Simply the Best), more quality sides, and more ball movement.

 

[perverse]

Maybe say you cant kick over the players heads from inside the 20? I think thats fair enough

:crazy:

 

[perverse]

Wrong, the product was better. Better advertising campaign (Tina Turner's Simply the Best), more quality sides, and more ball movement.

there were also far more mullets. perhaps we need more mullets back in the game?

 

[lockyno1]

No dramas there. Problem is that the game is rather predictable. Honestly you go to a game and you know what you are seeing. You want to be surprised, entertained not treated to the same stuff over and over again

 

[nqcowboy87]

this is a pretty silly suggestion as say kimorley puts a kick in covell or pomeroy go up for it and then bat it back and then somebody catches it then passes it and somebody scored techinaccly it wasnt scored from a kick it was scored from a pass so itll just open anopther can of worms, im all for encouraging running and passing so rl doesnt become a game of dummyhalf running and kicking

 

[gregstar]

it's just a phase.

tries from kicks were few & far between up until the mid 90's.

 

[Charlie124]

How would you decide when a try has come as a result of a kick?

eg. crossfield kick to the winger, he catches in goal and scores, fair enough.
but what if the crossfield kick was on the second tackle, midfield? storm and parra do this all the time.
what if the crossfield kick is batted down by the winger to the centre and HE scores?
what if its a cheaky chip and chase? (something i think we'd rather see more of, not less)

the list goes on, you cant reduce the ammount of points for tries that come from kicks because there would be far too many grey areas.

 

[Coaster]

This is why i mentioned the minor rule change of being able to get a restart from knocking the ball into touch, but only from a kick that hasnt touched the ground.

I have no problem with attacking kicks, but i also dont think the attacking team deserves a 50% chance of a try from one. I think that by swinging the favor into the defending team, you force the attacking team to maintain pressure through a grubber, or try and run the ball. They still have the option of a high bomb, but the defending team has more of a chance at defusing it.

All the current plays of the game will still be used, but imo atm the high kick to the winger is lopsided in the attacking teams favor, because they know where the ball is headed, and with the dummy runners ect doing there job, the defending team are disadvantaged trying to defend it.

Anyway i dont mind either way, was just a sugestion to create more ball movement, and make teams try a little harder for points.

 

[NthKnight]

Wrong, the product was better. Better advertising campaign (Tina Turner's Simply the Best), more quality sides, and more ball movement.

How is it wrong? Because you say so? :lol:

Ok, how bout the price of tickets. $25 bucks to get in, $6 for a mid-strength beer, $5 for a cold meat pie, not much change from a $50 note where as 10 years ago tickets were far cheaper.

Also back in the day you could go to a game and see 4 grades play before the main game, pretty good bang for your buck. Nowadays you get NYC and that was only started this year, before that there was sweet FA.

No dramas there. Problem is that the game is rather predictable. Honestly you go to a game and you know what you are seeing. You want to be surprised, entertained not treated to the same stuff over and over again

I assume your leading your tipping comp then seeing as you think each game is so predictable.

If you arnt entertained by RL then why the f**k are you even watching it?

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

it's just a phase.

tries from kicks were few & far between up until the mid 90's.

How are we going to get out of this phase without a rule change? There's no way of coaching against the fact that a 6'4" winger will out-jump a 5'10" winger.

I agree with the comment that it sucks that short wingers are a liability. Look at someone like Matt Utai, he has all the traits you'd want from a winger (or at least, he had them when he wasn't injured all the time) but he's a liability because he's short. It stinks.