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Bret Hart DVD???

Ben

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Big_Bad_Shark_Fan said:
I went to my local shopping centre tonight and i was outrage (macquarie - about 15 minutes from parramatta , 20 minutes from castle hill , 20 minutes from hornsby , approx 30 minutes from the city).

I could not see this dvd anywhere , i checked heaps of shops including kmart, big w , sanity , jb hi fi , woolworths , the dvd store , target and couldnt see it. is anyone else having this problemn?
Same with me, i have not seen one.
 

Iafeta

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Try HMV. In Westfields.

Watching three more ripping matches last night; v British Bulldog, v Stone Cold Steve Austin (AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME) and v Undertaker in Birmingham, classic matches. The other night watched him wrestle the Japanese star Hakushi (he's in Michinoku Pro now I believe), couple of awesome spots.

Great ability to tell a story in the ring that man, regardless of who the opponent was without knowing the story you can tell the story from how the match is wrestled..... I feel sorry for you fullas who can't find it....
 

Eelectrica

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I ordered mine online through JB-Hifi.com.
Awesome DVD, still working my way through the matches on the set.
 

Special K

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I've seen heaps at the macquarie centre tbh.

I'm going to buy the Ultimate Warrior and Jake The Snake DVDs tomorrow. Anyone seen them? If so are they good?
 

Big_Bad_Shark_Fan

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At approxiamately 4.17 on my phone clock I found the Bret Hart DVD at JB Hi Fi Norton Street.

Special K ive seen the Ultimate Warrior one, I downloaded it a few weeks ago. I found it enjoyable and interesting as I didnt no alot about it. However it is a very one sided documentary which basically just bags the Warrior from start to finish. However it goes through his whole wrestling career and is interesting.
 

Iafeta

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BBSF, I wouldn't expect to see you here for a couple of days - you'll be flat out watching the DVD. Its THAT good. This one is particularly good because as opposed to the Ultimate Warrior its not a one sided bashathon, even though Hart does lay a boot into the Warrior too :) I honestly have to give a helluva lot of credit to both Bret Hart and Vince McMahon, they handled themselves so professionally in their discussions about various things, and you can tell there's still a lot of respect for Vinnie Mac as opposed to how he felt about WCW.

Piledrivers, superplexes, flying elbow drops, crucifix pinfalls, figure fours - homage to lost friends/family, Hart family stories, going to WCW, how he got into pro wrestling, his first matches, how he ended up with the Stampede Title etc., its all there, and its simply awesome.
 

Big_Bad_Shark_Fan

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well I have to wait to Boxing Day to watch it as its a christmas present and im away for christmas but I look forward to it. On the Warrior DVD youll learn he wasnt the great wrestler he was probably portrayed as , but its really how much you read into it. Im a big Warrior fan but can see where those guys come from, but like always theres two sides to a story, but some of the stuff which is said that Warrior did was pretty unexplainable, and the fact I havent heard many people who knew him credit him means the story doesnt look good for him. But the bagging at times is pointless. At one stage they bag him for being from parts unknown, which every dimwit knew was just part of his character to add mystery. Its still interesting and goes through his whole career which I really enjoyed.


Unrelated, I was at JB Hi Fi last night and tonight and ive ended up with 7 DVDS (pay per views) for a grand total of 70 and the Bret Hart DVD for 30. Basically cleaned out at JB HI Fi Macquarie in the discount pile found heaps of PPVs from 2002-2003 for 10 bucks a head. Some good ones to like WMania 19 and Summerslam 03 and Rumble 03 and No way out - hogan vs rock rematch.
 

Big Pete

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Finally found it in Big W yesterday.

So far only watched the Documentry and all the Extra Segments.

I have to say I've found a lot of respect for him. I only got to watch Hart in WCW and only knew his WCW background in terms of wrestling ability - where he was good but due to booking never came off as great.

It wasn't until where I saw his "Wrestling With The Shadows" dvd where I found out a bit of his WWE history. However still I never respected him as much as Iafeta or IanG.

However after watching some clips of his matches I would have to say I respect him. He's still not one of my favourites but I still regard him as the best technical wrestler in history of the sport.

So to make someone like me who was never a Hart fan and make them realize that he was one of the best in the industy in really sums up just how good this dvd is.
 

thuganomics

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I still remember Bret Hart vs Chris Benoit (In my opinion 2 of the best technical wrestlers ever) wrestling in the Owen Hart Tribute match on Nitro one night. Was a great match and a dream match for me at the time.

Would love to see a match between Kurt Angle and Bret Hart (In His Prime)
 

Big_Bad_Shark_Fan

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Iafeta how you going with the DVD
ive watched all the talking and 5 of 18 matches. The first 5 anyway. Ive noticed Bret Hart wasnt a big fan of winning, he hasnt won in any of those first 5 matches (4 of them have been draws though....WTF?). Even though I no he wins alot of the matches to come. Anyway ive watched basically the 5 matches i wasnt really that looking forward to watching as much and I enjoyed them, the Rockers one was really entertaining , shame it ended so shortly.
 

Iafeta

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I've watched most of it..

One thing I got from him was he said that often his best matches were ones he ended up losing and putting his opponent over...
 

Big Pete

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I've been watching a few of his matches.

I've seen 4/18 the 4 being against Hakushi, Perfect '91, Austin and Owen Hart.

They were enjoyable matches but nothing great IMO. Perfect '91 for me was a pretty big letdown for a match that was meant to be 5 stars.
 

Iafeta

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Big Pete, you've got to compare it to matches of the time. Where it was mostly fist fighting. As far as the Mr Perfect match goes, I believe Curt Hennig from memory had suffered quite a serious injury the night before, and it was highly doubted he was even going to compete. But still he did, realising how important for Bret Hart it was, them two being pretty much best friends. Thats why you don't see a conglomerate of Bret's signature technical moves.

Of the matches you nominate, Hakushi's matches have a couple of pretty wicked spots in them, one from Hakushi himself off the ropes and to the outside.

The Austin match was an absolute redneck classic for mine. Some of the chainwork in the Owen Hart matches was spectacular and fluid.

IMO some of the best matches were against Undertaker, Chris Benoit and Diesel. Nash and Undertaker couldn't throw a big spot to save themselves, but its the raw psychology of the match that defines Bret Hart. The story telling, the ability to make it all look believable. You don't have to have seen the storylines preceeding the match, you don't need the commentary - even without those two things you can understand what the story is, Hart has a great ability to put over his combatants strengths, weaknesses, even the raw personality of the opponent.

Thats a gift.

Needless to say, from watching him throughout his career he could have wrestled the same sort of Iron Man match that Angle/Benoit for instance worked, or he could work a lot of high spot matches against the masters of high spots, Pillman, Mysterio, Liger, Ultimo Dragon. Or he could fight a believable match against a non moving big object like Big Show, or Andre the Giant, or Undertaker, or Sid Vicious, or Rikishi. Whilst obviously he's not going to be able to do the bridging suplex there, or the forward russian legsweep, or the superplex against them, he'll still sell you a great story.

Thats an ability only a rare few have had. Put him against an Angle, or a Benoit, you'll get your 5 star moves - your vertical suplexes, your superplexes, your shoulder breakers, your back breakers, your various submission holds, your second rope elbow drops...
 

Big_Bad_Shark_Fan

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I Agree with both of you. Everything Iafeta said is true, but you can understand where PEte comes from, some of the matches are hard to watch when you watch them 15 years later. I just couldnt get interested in that Killer Bees\Hart Foundation match but anyway Ive watched 6 matches now the first 6 (ive sene most of the rest anyway but ill still watch em).
 

Big_Bad_Shark_Fan

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On a sidenote I cant believe he didnt pick the 1997 "Final Four" match to put in there. In my opinion one of the most entertaining matches ever
 

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