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Broncos the forgotten threat

dice

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Amongst all the talk about Panthers, Roosters, Bulldogs, and recently the Dragons it seems to me that everyone has forgotten about the Broncos chances of winning this years premiership. Nobody has noticed their performances against the other leading teams.

Here is a revised ladder of how the top 5 teams and Saints have faired against each other:
Broncos 4-1
Bulldogs 3-2
Panthers 3-3
Roosters 2-3
Saints 2-4
Storm 1-2

The only game the Broncos lost was against the bulldogs and they were unlucky to lose that game as well. Yet the broncos are 4th favourite at $7.50 to win this years title. Unbelievable.
 

Leagueguy

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It is odd. But wait till the finals come and the teams all say the Broncos are the most dangerous club in the competition. Their backline is 3 current internationals in tate, berrigan , devere, + the best rookie in the world + the worlds best player. Their forward pack has the world best forward then basically the rest of the origin pack with petero, parker, carlaw and caroll. You can also throw in Gorden Tallis. Brisbanes depth is also awesome with the Casey Maguire, Frawley, Kelly, Carl Webb, Ikin , Darren Smith, Paul Green , Meyers and two future superstars in Learoyd and Costigan. No one has a better backline, forward pack or a better playmaker. If a team beats Brisbane they will win the Grand Final.
 

SP

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the broncos have always been a threat. If penrith dont make the final, i hope the broncos do & win (god that was hard for me to say that, normally NSW'ers hate everything QLD :lol: :p )
 

Kiwi

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Alot of people thought the Broncos would just make or miss the finals all together, and were very vocal about it. They wont come in and say they were wrong, they'll be waiting, hoping the Broncos fail, and if they do and get knocked out, they'll surface and say "see told you they couldn't win it". When ( hey i'm a Broncos fan ) they do win it, they wont say a word about all the bagging before the season started.
 

JJ

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melon.... said:
The Broncos are never the forgotten threat in my books. They are the REAL threat.

To the Panthers' title defence I assume you mean melon.. :lol:

To me all the clubs listed bar the Storm have a good shot to win the title (sorry Storm fans,m just my opinion).

As we all know injuries will be key. If everyone is fit in all those sides, then there is very little in it. The Dragons will need a change of fortune in this area though.

One thing to remember though, is that Lockyer at stand-off is the best player in the comp - and with a good forward pack, pace and skill outside him - he'll (and the Brocos) will be hard to stop...
 

_Johnsy

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Is it the fact that the media are not talking up your teams chances that means they are a forgotten threat ?

Anyone knows that they are a great chance to win the comp. Pretty sad state of affairs that a supporter needs the media to talk up a teams chances to make a supporter believe it. If you do believe they really are then this post would not be in existance.
 

JJ

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_Johnsy said:
Is it the fact that the media are not talking up your teams chances that means they are a forgotten threat ?

Anyone knows that they are a great chance to win the comp. Pretty sad state of affairs that a supporter needs the media to talk up a teams chances to make a supporter believe it. If you do believe they really are then this post would not be in existance.

not necessarily Broncos supporters here

But it reflects how things have changed in the last 5 years that the Broncos are not the first name that rolls off the tongue when talking of premiership contenders....
 

_Johnsy

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Fair point, but just because the media is not talking up a clubs chances means jack shit. Ask the players in the top 8 and see who they think the threats are. A key point is, a threat is a side outside the favourites to win it. In my eyes brissy are about 3rd, therefore does this make them a threat ?

Id say no, they are one of the favourites to win the bloody thing.
 

JJ

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_Johnsy said:
Fair point, but just because the media is not talking up a clubs chances means jack sh*t. Ask the players in the top 8 and see who they think the threats are. A key point is, a threat is a side outside the favourites to win it. In my eyes brissy are about 3rd, therefore does this make them a threat ?

Id say no, they are one of the favourites to win the bloody thing.

This thread has made me think - Civo, Webcke, Tallis, LOCKYER, Tate, Hunt et al - buggered if they shouldn't be the favourites - it's good though, I find it really hard to split the top 4 - and it wouldn't surprise me to see any of them winning it.

It really seems to be the addition of Hunt, and the shift of Lockyer to 5/8 that's done it though
 

Pigskin

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JJ said:
_Johnsy said:
Is it the fact that the media are not talking up your teams chances that means they are a forgotten threat ?

Anyone knows that they are a great chance to win the comp. Pretty sad state of affairs that a supporter needs the media to talk up a teams chances to make a supporter believe it. If you do believe they really are then this post would not be in existance.

not necessarily Broncos supporters here

But it reflects how things have changed in the last 5 years that the Broncos are not the first name that rolls off the tongue when talking of premiership contenders....

we won in 2000
we bowed out 24 - 16 at Prelim Final stage in 2001 to hot Parra
within a try of GF in 2002
led the comp for 17 rounds in 2003
and are second thus far in 2004

not the first name that rolls off the tongue when talking premiership contenders ?

I would have thought it was more a reflection of the Sydneycentrics being satisfied (or mesmerised) by that highly successful juggernaut the Roosters who despite "all their success" have won 1 premiership in 30 years.

I laugh at your "how things have changed"

Oink !
 

_Johnsy

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From any side outside the top 4, AT THE MOMENT the saints are a threat, but as we know 1 week is a long time in footy. They top 4 sides by a couple. except the doggies. We have had key players out for a prolonged period, not an excuse, but a great confidence builder when looking at some of the losses.

The roosters 11-8 a 3 point loss, several key players out.
Doggies gave us a lesson 38-12 again key players out.
Flogged the panthers twice 44-18 and 28-8.
Brissy won 24-22 again key players out and another confidence building loss, if there is such a thing ;-) We get them the weekend after SOO3.

While we are not sitting in a great spot on the ladder. I am confident of finishing in 4th or 5th spot with 2 byes to come. As I said eralier a week is a long long time in footy, fingers crossed.
 

JJ

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Pigskin said:
JJ said:
_Johnsy said:
Is it the fact that the media are not talking up your teams chances that means they are a forgotten threat ?

Anyone knows that they are a great chance to win the comp. Pretty sad state of affairs that a supporter needs the media to talk up a teams chances to make a supporter believe it. If you do believe they really are then this post would not be in existance.

not necessarily Broncos supporters here

But it reflects how things have changed in the last 5 years that the Broncos are not the first name that rolls off the tongue when talking of premiership contenders....

we won in 2000
we bowed out 24 - 16 at Prelim Final stage in 2001 to hot Parra
within a try of GF in 2002
led the comp for 17 rounds in 2003
and are second thus far in 2004

not the first name that rolls off the tongue when talking premiership contenders ?

I would have thought it was more a reflection of the Sydneycentrics being satisfied (or mesmerised) by that highly successful juggernaut the Roosters who despite "all their success" have won 1 premiership in 30 years.

I laugh at your "how things have changed"

Oink !

Not a Sydney-sider here a Kiwi.

Your myopic us against them Qld attitude is amusing.

But to be blunt, Brisbane fell away awfully last year. And despte their record in the last 5 years being impressive by other club's standards, it's not impressive compared with their standards of the early 90s.

To be blunt, until Lockyer shifted, they have been poor in the halves. The much heralded young forwards like Meyers, Carlaw, Parker, Webb etc have not come on as expected. the loss of Thorn was huge, and the team relies heavily on the likes of Webcke, Tallis, and Civo.

To Bennett's credit, retiring from Origin was a good move, and shifting Lockyer tp 5/8 a masterstroke which was questioned/criticised early in the season...

Like I said - before the season, I would have said - Penrith, Roosters, Newcastle or Canterbury (with the Dragons unpredictable).

Now Bisbane are in the 4 which I can't split, and due to injuries Newcastle are goooone.
 

dice

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Johnsy, I have updated my avatar just so you know that I am not a broncos supporter looking for attention.
 

_Johnsy

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dice,
That comment was made tongue in cheek, your efforts are much appreciated though. ;-)
 

Kiwi

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JJ said:
Pigskin said:
JJ said:
_Johnsy said:
Is it the fact that the media are not talking up your teams chances that means they are a forgotten threat ?

Anyone knows that they are a great chance to win the comp. Pretty sad state of affairs that a supporter needs the media to talk up a teams chances to make a supporter believe it. If you do believe they really are then this post would not be in existance.

not necessarily Broncos supporters here

But it reflects how things have changed in the last 5 years that the Broncos are not the first name that rolls off the tongue when talking of premiership contenders....

we won in 2000
we bowed out 24 - 16 at Prelim Final stage in 2001 to hot Parra
within a try of GF in 2002
led the comp for 17 rounds in 2003
and are second thus far in 2004

not the first name that rolls off the tongue when talking premiership contenders ?

I would have thought it was more a reflection of the Sydneycentrics being satisfied (or mesmerised) by that highly successful juggernaut the Roosters who despite "all their success" have won 1 premiership in 30 years.

I laugh at your "how things have changed"

Oink !

Not a Sydney-sider here a Kiwi.

Your myopic us against them Qld attitude is amusing.

But to be blunt, Brisbane fell away awfully last year. And despte their record in the last 5 years being impressive by other club's standards, it's not impressive compared with their standards of the early 90s.

To be blunt, until Lockyer shifted, they have been poor in the halves. The much heralded young forwards like Meyers, Carlaw, Parker, Webb etc have not come on as expected. the loss of Thorn was huge, and the team relies heavily on the likes of Webcke, Tallis, and Civo.

To Bennett's credit, retiring from Origin was a good move, and shifting Lockyer tp 5/8 a masterstroke which was questioned/criticised early in the season...

Like I said - before the season, I would have said - Penrith, Roosters, Newcastle or Canterbury (with the Dragons unpredictable).

Now Bisbane are in the 4 which I can't split, and due to injuries Newcastle are goooone.

Your assesment of Parker is way off, he has come along very well. Done everything asked of him this year. Meyers whilst not being as dominant in his first year, averages over 100 metres a game from the bench. So he's doing his job. The one that needs to lift his game is Carlaw, who i think needs to be moved to the front row for a month or so till he lifts. Webb is no longer in the top 25. Also I think you'll find with the likes of Learoyd, Costigan and Thaiday coming through, we'll be fine when Webcke, tallis and Petero retire.
 

JJ

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I have no doubt the Broncos will be fine - they have a big recruitment area and very savvy talent spotters.

I probably shouldn't have mentioned Parker in that group - but after his first season, Meyers was expected to be more than a bench player, Carlaw remains inconsistent, and Webb has disappeared from my NRL radar..

I think we'll know more about how Brisbane will go soon - last year they looked jaded (and performed that way) after origin. I dislike the Broncos, but it'll be much more interesting is they continue to play well - and with Lockyer at 5/8 I'd suggest they should be favourites
 

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