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Bulldogs vs Panthers - 7 tackle set

maestro1

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I saw that one as well Thommo4pm and channell 9 did not show a replay. I was certain Idris knocked it forward. I even commented to my Bulldog mate who I was watching the game with. He felt the same and even said "Oh no, I think Idris knocked that on". I've noticed channell 9 are not replaying certain importanty "little plays". Especially if it goes against "the team" the commentary group have latched onto. Has anybody else noticed how the commentary group all pick a team and almost will them on and call all the 50/50 calls in that teams favour. It was very evident in the game between the Dragons and the Bulldogs. Gus had a motza on the dogs that night. Their odds were very juicy ($2.45). We all know Gus loves a punt and you could here the exasperation in his voice whenever Saints looked like kicking away. Oh no, have I mentioned THAT game again. Just tipped a big bucket of burly into the water. Now I'll sit back and watch the frenzy. Should the ref that allowed the 7 tackle set be sacked? The problem here is that the dogs have been so used to getting the "rub of the green" for decades and now when one or two controversial decisoions go against them, they are incapable of dealing with it - bar throwing bottles. Why weren't the easily identifieable fans banned. Every other time this has happened, they have used video footage and banned them. The Bulldogs have even led the call to have them banned. The NRL and Bulldogs have gone quiet and it has slipped away to most people. But real fans know the NRL and the dogs have erred and should not have let them off the hook. Nothing justified that reaction. That was FFFFing violent and unacceptable.....
 

[FKN-SIK]

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There is no way either team would have been able to hold onto the ball for second tackles that night :lol:
 

The General

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Just watched the replay and it was a 7 tackle set. Don't know how the ref got it wrong. He called 4 and then forgot to call 5.

Funny thing is when the ball goes dead off Noddys kick you can hear someone in the background say 'Thank God for that.' Don't know if it was from the refs microphone or commentators but someone picked up on it.

Still wouldn't have changed the game. At most it probably would have been a 10-20 metre difference in territory. You get more of an advantage of a bull**** penalty then that and they happen all the time.
 

jpaciocco91

Juniors
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Lol @ the Refs.
The two ref system sucks. Bad calls, 7 tackle sets, what's next? Ref-on-player violence?
 

jimmythehand

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how about when ryan was called for a knock on when the ball went about 5 metres backwards, and didn't touch a panthers player as far as I could see? And panthers scored off it. big whoopie about idris knocking on.
 

jimmythehand

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I have a bigger concern.
Idris knocked a ball down near his own tryline as Penrith were attacking, and the ref's called 6 again.
Penrith failed to pick the ball up before another Dogs player came through and dived on it.

The ref's called tackle 1 for the Dogs.
Not sure of the exact minute of the match, but it was in the 2nd half.

Now, if the ref's called 6 again to Penrith, they clearly believed Idris played at the ball and knocked it down.
The Dogs player goes through and dives on the ball....where is the advantage to Penrith here???

Why was a scrum not packed for Idris knocking the ball on?
They have re-started the tackle count meaning idris knocked the ball on.

So instead of Penrith having another set on the Dogs line, the Bulldogs instead are working the ball down field. :crazy:


how do you know refs called six again? I heard the same call, but common sense will tell you that it was a Panthers player that said it. You often hear players calling things out like 'forward pass'.
 

thommo4pm

Coach
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Because if you listen to the game you hear the ref's voices and recognise them.
It was the ref who called 6 again.
Common sense does not tell you that it was a panthers player at all.

Using one of your senses i.e hearing sense, allows you to recognise the differing voices and recognise the voices of the ref's which you hear all match.
 

thommo4pm

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how about when ryan was called for a knock on when the ball went about 5 metres backwards, and didn't touch a panthers player as far as I could see? And panthers scored off it. big whoopie about idris knocking on.

5 metres backwards and they called it a knock on?
Common sense tells me you are telling a bit of a fib here.
 

Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
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How exactly am I threatened when I pointed out something that happened in your match last night? :crazy:

Can you explain the situation I made reference to without bringing up anything about the Dragons?
I fail to see the need to bring the Dragons into the conversation. :roll:
LMFAO, You're a Dragons fan and like many of your sort lately, rather than revel in your own success, your critically analyse ours to discredit it as much as possible. You're threatened by our success as it could jeopardise your own, it's clear to see.
I saw that one as well Thommo4pm and channell 9 did not show a replay. I was certain Idris knocked it forward. I even commented to my Bulldog mate who I was watching the game with. He felt the same and even said "Oh no, I think Idris knocked that on". I've noticed channell 9 are not replaying certain importanty "little plays". Especially if it goes against "the team" the commentary group have latched onto. Has anybody else noticed how the commentary group all pick a team and almost will them on and call all the 50/50 calls in that teams favour. It was very evident in the game between the Dragons and the Bulldogs. Gus had a motza on the dogs that night. Their odds were very juicy ($2.45). We all know Gus loves a punt and you could here the exasperation in his voice whenever Saints looked like kicking away. Oh no, have I mentioned THAT game again. Just tipped a big bucket of burly into the water. Now I'll sit back and watch the frenzy. Should the ref that allowed the 7 tackle set be sacked? The problem here is that the dogs have been so used to getting the "rub of the green" for decades and now when one or two controversial decisoions go against them, they are incapable of dealing with it - bar throwing bottles. Why weren't the easily identifieable fans banned. Every other time this has happened, they have used video footage and banned them. The Bulldogs have even led the call to have them banned. The NRL and Bulldogs have gone quiet and it has slipped away to most people. But real fans know the NRL and the dogs have erred and should not have let them off the hook. Nothing justified that reaction. That was FFFFing violent and unacceptable.....
First of all, I'll let you know that there is such a thing as the Enter key, try using it sometime.

Now... commentators: don't decide a game LOL what a dumb thing to say. Commentators ride a team home? Oh god.... FACEPALM

The ref who allowed the seven tackle set should probably be punted yes - it was the referees mistake. How the Bulldogs are to blame for that is beyond me. Same again with the infamous obstruction call, the official involved was to blame, not the Bulldogs. We were just upset and rightly so that it directly cost us to win.

The rub of the green? :lol: One or two controversial decisions? :lol: Remember where we finished last year? Yep, the rub of the green got us into the wooden spoon position... Remember the 2006 Preliminary Final? Yep, that was the rub of the green too, 20-6 up and lost 37-20... yep... the rub of the green. :lol:

As for those fans, how do you know they weren't identified and banned? I, and most 'Dogs fans surely hope they were. But it's the 'Dogs fault? Give yourself an uppercut.
 

thommo4pm

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LMFAO, You're a Dragons fan and like many of your sort lately, rather than revel in your own success, your critically analyse ours to discredit it as much as possible. You're threatened by our success as it could jeopardise your own, it's clear to see.

I never mentioned the Dragons mate, you did.

You had to bring them into this thread, and you couldn't reply to the post I made with any reasonable debate or facts, so you bring out the line about being a Dragons fan.
I don't care for your teams success and it doesn't bother me one way or another.

As I asked you before, can you explain the situation I made reference to about your match without trying to mention the Dragons.

It seems to me it's quite the opposite...you appear threatened by the Dragons success as you need to keep mentioning them rather than talk about the topic at hand.
 

Timmah

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I never said you mentioned the Dragons, I'm simply stating the fact you are a Dragons fan... your comprehension skills aren't too crash-hot are they? :lol:

Regardless, I didn't address your post because it was a weak-as-piss attempt from you to yet again sink a boot into our club, something you clearly take pleasure in doing.
 

jimmythehand

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5 metres backwards and they called it a knock on?
Common sense tells me you are telling a bit of a fib here.

maybe have a look at the replay instead of guessing?

If you're able to tell the difference between a refs voice and a players voice good on you, i certainly don't possess the same level of skill in that area. I'll have to take your word on it.

Maybe the dominant referee overruled the pocket referee because he thought it was a knock-back instead of a knock-on? I don't think they even showed a replay of this did they?
 
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jimmythehand

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actually come to think of it, wasn't the call '6 to go'.

All that suggests is that the Bulldogs player touched it. Doesn't mean he knocked it on.
 

ozzy_ozman

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I remember in 2004 against Penrith at the same stadium... O'Meley i think was held up on the 3rd tackle... Pricey takes a hitup and then Simpkins called for a turnover and we thoughtt we still had 2 tackles left...

so i think the 7th tackle makes up from the 2 tackles we were owed from 5 years ago :)
 

thommo4pm

Coach
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actually come to think of it, wasn't the call '6 to go'.

All that suggests is that the Bulldogs player touched it. Doesn't mean he knocked it on.

Correct, the call was 6 to go.
The ball was propelled towards the Penrith players, which means it was knocked forward by the Dogs player.
No they didn't show a replay of it.
 

thommo4pm

Coach
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I never said you mentioned the Dragons, I'm simply stating the fact you are a Dragons fan... your comprehension skills aren't too crash-hot are they? :lol:

Regardless, I didn't address your post because it was a weak-as-piss attempt from you to yet again sink a boot into our club, something you clearly take pleasure in doing.

Use whatever emoticons you like to hide the fact you can't debate anything.
I'm not trying to stick the boot in at all.
Tell me have I stated the better team lost on Friday night, have I stated Penrith were robbed, have I stated the Dogs didn't deserve to win?

I was making a point about a call the ref's made and how it was a blunder at a certain point in the match....a fact that others in this thread have agreed with.

The only person with an agenda here is you, you have a hate for Saints for some reason, and cause I'm a saints fan you think me bringing up a point about Friday nights game is putting it into your team.

You're a little too precious mate....get some thicker skin.
 

jimmythehand

Juniors
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did anyone else see Andrew Ryan's apparent knock-on and have an explanation how the ball ended up 5 metres behind him?
 

mxlegend99

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I dont remember that incident specifically. Although they tend to rule knock-on as often as they allow forward passes to play on. They will call the majority of dropped balls a knock-on regardless of what direction it goes in... they might aswell just change the rules so that you can't drop the ball at all.

Meanwhile there are at minimum 10 forward passes allowed each game, sometimes a sh*tload more then that. It's also not uncommon for the referee to call a lineball or a pass that clearly went backwards a forward pass either. Usually when they do this, it's after giving a team a hardtime with penalties and stuff, then they get away a nice pass for a linebreak that the referee just can't allow to go. These decisions usually change momentum and result in the opposition scoring.

Happened to Penrith a lot last season. Fortunately this year we seem to be getting away with our backward passes, and quiet often a lot of forward passes from our hooker.
 

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