Buying or Building From Within - Your Thoughts

[R2Coupe]

The buying of established NRL players by the Titans, Bulldogs, Sharks and Rabbits is to a large extent the opposite of teams like the Tigers, Broncos and Raiders. The latter three clubs preferring mostly to build from within except for the odd buy.

I find it interesting the Tigers' building from within was initially the result of funding issues but today is more a reflection of the success of its junior development program. Do you have views on either?

Do you believe building from within creates greater comraderie and subsequently results in a closer player roster? Or, is the comraderie and atmosphere within a club the result of senior players such as Lockyer, Parker, Farah, Ellis and Marshall stamping their personalties on the team?

I am interested in your views because as you read the different posts on this forum you get a sense a number of clubs are offloading players to buy up big. Also, is cash waved in the face of a player the only consideration or do players consider a move to a certain club may be a career killer ie a club has a reputation for either failing to improve a players' career or indeed killing it off.

PS Tinkler attempting to buy back the farm and bring former Knights juniors home to Newcastle, is this a realisation from a succesful businessman that success is created from within?

 

[Tigerm]

I think its gone on from the time league went professional, it's all about winning the comp. Some go for quick success while others prefer the build up, not sure why you can't do both, I think it depends on finances & egos. While there is still a way to go this year, (I still think we will be top 4) the young guys getting all this experience will be good for us, but unfortunately more so in the future, than the present. So while the future looks promising, (it can be the only reason Sheens decided to stay?), personally, I want the team to dominate now, not later.

 

[madunit]

ummm, rugby league has always been professional.

for many years clubs were restricted by the residential rule.

Building from within, lets face it, is smarter and it should be rewarded. Most of all, its cheaper.

Consider this. If after his first season a club wanted to buy Benji Marshall from us, they would have paid a hell of a lot more for him in the second and third years than we did.

Or this, Albert Kelly at Sharks was bought for a higher than minimum wage from the Eels.

Freom within is smarter and if a good sense of loyalty and respect within the players and club can be created, you stand a good chance of signing these players up on good money, not excessively over the top cash (ala Sandow)

 

[b.bear]

The buying of established NRL players by the Titans, Bulldogs, Sharks and Rabbits is to a large extent the opposite of teams like the Tigers, Broncos and Raiders. The latter three clubs preferring mostly to build from within except for the odd buy.

I find it interesting the Tigers' building from within was initially the result of funding issues but today is more a reflection of the success of its junior development program. Do you have views on either?

Do you believe building from within creates greater comraderie and subsequently results in a closer player roster? Or, is the comraderie and atmosphere within a club the result of senior players such as Lockyer, Parker, Farah, Ellis and Marshall stamping their personalties on the team?

I am interested in your views because as you read the different posts on this forum you get a sense a number of clubs are offloading players to buy up big. Also, is cash waved in the face of a player the only consideration or do players consider a move to a certain club may be a career killer ie a club has a reputation for either failing to improve a players' career or indeed killing it off.

PS Tinkler attempting to buy back the farm and bring former Knights juniors home to Newcastle, is this a realisation from a succesful businessman that success is created from within?

Last edited by R2Coupe; Today at 06:33 AM..

I think its gone on from the time league went professional, it's all about winning the comp. Some go for quick success while others prefer the build up, not sure why you can't do both, I think it depends on finances & egos. While there is still a way to go this year, (I still think we will be top 4) the young guys getting all this experience will be good for us, but unfortunately more so in the future, than the present. So while the future looks promising, (it can be the only reason Sheens decided to stay?), personally, I want the team to dominate now, not later.
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ummm, rugby league has always been professional.

for many years clubs were restricted by the residential rule.

Building from within, lets face it, is smarter and it should be rewarded. Most of all, its cheaper.

Consider this. If after his first season a club wanted to buy Benji Marshall from us, they would have paid a hell of a lot more for him in the second and third years than we did.

Or this, Albert Kelly at Sharks was bought for a higher than minimum wage from the Eels.

Freom within is smarter and if a good sense of loyalty and respect within the players and club can be created, you stand a good chance of signing these players up on good money, not excessively over the top cash (ala Sandow


Love fest'.

 

[madunit]

if you don't like it you can always f**k off. No ones forcing you to be here f**kknuckle

 

[TrigaTheTiger]

The intelligent view is to promote from within when you can, supplemented by purchases from outside. Just like any business, its cheaper to promote staff, but if your looking for something specific, you need to go to market to get exactly what you want.

 

[N.C.]

The occasional astute purchase is an essential ingredient for developing talent. Sometimes it pays to bring in experience - especially when that experience can offer a new perspective to your home-grown players.

 

[simmo1]

Big buying teams tend to jump up and down the ladder from year to year. One year they'll be threatening for the comp, the next they'll be fighting to avoid the spoon.

Building a team up seems to give a better chance of sustained success over the course of several seasons, at the expense of some short term gain.

Definitely prefer the idea of building rather than buying (which seems like the strategy WT has gone for).

 

[innsaneink]

The buying of established NRL players by the Titans, Bulldogs, Sharks and Rabbits is to a large extent the opposite of teams like the Tigers, Broncos and Raiders. The latter three clubs preferring mostly to build from within except for the odd buy.

I find it interesting the Tigers' building from within was initially the result of funding issues but today is more a reflection of the success of its junior development program. Do you have views on either?

Do you believe building from within creates greater comraderie and subsequently results in a closer player roster? Or, is the comraderie and atmosphere within a club the result of senior players such as Lockyer, Parker, Farah, Ellis and Marshall stamping their personalties on the team?

Its rumoured there is a certain clique/ group at the tigers and if you aint in it then well you may as well piss off.
This from posts from people, several...who are usually bang on the money and are somewhat close to the goings on.
That said you really need a mix imo....locals and recruits from elsewhere, just no enough players coming thru....Penrith have 2 or 3 locals in their NRL team cyurrently when back when they won with MG and Simmons they had 8 or 9

I am interested in your views because as you read the different posts on this forum you get a sense a number of clubs are offloading players to buy up big. Also, is cash waved in the face of a player the only consideration or do players consider a move to a certain club may be a career killer ie a club has a reputation for either failing to improve a players' career or indeed killing it off.

Sandow clearly saw the $$$$.....the pressure he will be under in the Eels 7 jersey grows every time another fails, they will not be happy until someone equal to or better than Sterlo comes along, aint happening anythime soon.

PS Tinkler attempting to buy back the farm and bring former Knights juniors home to Newcastle, is this a realisation from a succesful businessman that success is created from within?

I think he's just using it to regain lost juniors that have kicked on. Though good for the fans, local community, local juniors and memberships....probably looking at offield success/growtgh too

 

[R2Coupe]

Thanks for your feedback. I must say I was proud to be WTs supporier on Friday night with the representation in both teams. Of particular not was Dwyer's game and the fact he is a junior. Well done.

 

[DanOz]

Dwyer was awesome.

 

[b.bear]

see following

 

[b.bear]

if you don't like it you can always f**k off. No ones forcing you to be here f**kknuckle

if you don't like it you can always f**k off. No ones forcing you to be here f**kknuckle
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[super_coach]

I dont know if you can develop that special team spirit if you have a ten player turn over every year. If you get the right mix of juniors and outsiders with all the key positions covered, thats what required

 

[madunit]

if you don't like it you can always f**k off. No ones forcing you to be here f**kknuckle
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