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Bye-bye Brookie

gong_eagle

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Bye-bye Brookie

Kelly Robinson

15Nov07
http://manlydaily.com.au/article/2007/11/15/7375_news.html

THE Manly Sea Eagles have begun talks with the National Rugby League to do an $8 million deal to relocate to the Central Coast.

As they continue to battle for funding to overhaul Brookvale Oval, CEO Grant Mayer told The Manly Daily the club was considering leaving the northern beaches and playing all home games at Bluetongue Stadium in Gosford. Manly powerbrokers have been lobbying Warringah MP Tony Abbott and the State Government to commit $10 million to repair the run-down stadium.

Talk of the move reduced some members of the Sea Eagles board to tears yesterday, Mr Mayer said.

The club has been unable to secure a commitment for $17.5 million they say is needed to upgrade the oval and is seriously considering moving north.

While other NRL venues throughout the country have seen more than $900 million in funding in the last decade, as reported in The Manly Daily last week, Brookvale Oval has received just $1.4 million.

Prime Minister John Howard recently pledged $8 million to upgrade Leichhardt Oval in his own marginal seat of Bennelong and Penrith Football Stadium was promised $5 million for upgrading by Federal Labor.

Quad Park on the Sunshine Coast has also been promised $7.5 million from the Liberal Party and $5 million from Labor during the election campaign.

Mr Mayer told the Daily the club was exploring all options.

``This is a serious option for the club to consider,'' he said. ``We have about 10 days to convince both parties that our Brookvale Oval is in desperate need of funding and we need to see a commitment,'' he said.

``There's no secret that the stadium needs a lot of help.

``We have already moved two games to the Central Coast for season 2008.

``While our preference is, and will always be to stay here,we're seriously considering apermanent move.''

NRL chief executive David Gallop confirmed he had been in talks with the Sea Eagles.

``The offer of $8 million is on the table subject to satisfying our requirements,'' Mr Gallop said.

``One of those requirements is a true relocation and a long-term plan for the club. History shows if a club needs to relocate, it needs to truly embrace the local area.''

Mr Abbott said he was trying his hardest to secure funding.

``I am confident we will help fund the redevelopment of Brookvale Oval with federal funding,'' he said. ``It's just a question of whether the funding is secured before or after the election.''

The Sea Eagles' lease at Brookvale Oval expires in 2009 and the club believes a complete overhaul of the ground is needed.

The club has set out a huge list of repairs needed including ground resurfacing (worth $1.5 million), a complete overhaul of dressing rooms, upgraded seating in the Southern stand, Ken Arthurson stand and Jane Try stand, building of additional toilet facilities, paved car parking, upgraded corporate facilities and new ticket booths.
 

t-ba

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I'd rather they move to the Sunshine Coast.

I'd probably never consider moving back to Sydney!

This is obviously brinkmanship. The Shareholders have the controlling vote in matters relating to stuff like the club colours and our home venue IIRC, and there's no way I'd vote for a move to Gosford (Or Kawana) any time soon. It's just brinkmanship from the club in an effort to get some pork barrel $$$.

That reminds me, I need to renew...
 

Dave Q

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Brooky is sub-standard.

I hate Manly as much as the next guy but Brookvale is an embarrasment and deserves some cashish.

Its back to the 1970's out there.
 

chileman

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Stuff the central coast....Brookie is Manly's home, we need the money for the upgrade....look at some of the small rundown football grounds in the UK that look a million dollars after their upgrades!
 

SethGecko

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Brokie is old and needs upgrading...... but it's that or die. No move to the Coast.

The Coast pikeys can rot in hell. Manly fans have deep scars. Brookie or die. Would rather remember a grand past than be a whore to useless crap.
 

Highlander

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Do you think the central coast would want manly? I honeslty beleave that Manly anywhere else would not be footy and just wouldnt be the same.
 

Galeforce

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didn't Manly get money to join with Norths when they joint ventured up the coast , when souths got shafted out of the competition?
As i think about it they were selfish the way they broke the joint venture , almost sending Norths to oblivion as they made noise about importance of moving back to the shire .Now they want to move back to the "
join venture ground/community minus Norths" and get the benefits all over again . Well screw them i say. Let them play in the sandbox or pay for its upgrade with their owners or supporters money , i certainly do not want any part of my NRL or tax contributions going to those wasters.
 

t-ba

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Please, get a clue about what happened with the joint venture before commenting on it.

Please, you come across like a complete and utter idiot with those comments.

I shop in the City of Sydney. I imagine that my money is used to pay for rates that are paying for the $20m upgrade to Redfern Oval. I'm not selfish enough to be so petty about it.
 

Galeforce

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the upgrade to Redfern oval is to tear down the old ground and replace with a modern community facility that will be used by Souths for their training and club offices and then for junior fixtures. It will add real living value to the community around the ground versus the current ground which was falling apart.
 

t-ba

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Yeah, and there'll be a community centre in the new Brookvale too. It will add value to the community as both a top level sporting facility, retail space and a community centre...

I suppose you knowing that would have required you to look at the plans, which you clearly haven't.

Seriously, bugger off and learn a thing or two about the Joint venture and the proposal before talking
 
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Galeforce said:
didn't Manly get money to join with Norths when they joint ventured up the coast , when souths got shafted out of the competition?
As i think about it they were selfish the way they broke the joint venture , almost sending Norths to oblivion as they made noise about importance of moving back to the shire .Now they want to move back to the "
join venture ground/community minus Norths" and get the benefits all over again . Well screw them i say. Let them play in the sandbox or pay for its upgrade with their owners or supporters money , i certainly do not want any part of my NRL or tax contributions going to those wasters.

Galeforce is all wind !
 

Galeforce

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ok tell me what happenned in the Joint venture , and help me understand how Manly were left standing and Norths left out after they both formed a partnership.I would really like to know if i have the wrong perception .
 

Stagger eel

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t-ba said:
Yeah, and there'll be a community centre in the new Brookvale too. It will add value to the community as both a top level sporting facility, retail space and a community centre...

I suppose you knowing that would have required you to look at the plans, which you clearly haven't.

Seriously, bugger off and learn a thing or two about the Joint venture and the proposal before talking

t-ba, didn't you know that it's all about Souths???? :sarcasm:

honestly, I f**ken hate your club but I'm smart enough to acknowledge the fact that you've been ignored by the state government for way too long...
 

t-ba

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Galeforce said:
ok tell me what happenned in the Joint venture , and help me understand how Manly were left standing and Norths left out after they both formed a partnership.I would really like to know if i have the wrong perception .

A) It was Manly's license, never Norths.

B) Ours was the least predatory offer (If you think the Northern Eagles was a joke, you should see what Parramatta and Newcastle offered in the way of a 'merger')

C) Once Norths sensed that Manly was broke in mid 2001 their faction took the odds and tried to kill off the joint venture, in the hopes of capturing the license from a broke Manly.

D) The Joint Venture was wound up, Manly staggered along at near death until mid-2002, until Delmege saved the clubs immediate future. When it became Apparent that Norths weren't going to deliver the Central Coast a License, the Bears were kicked out of Gosford.

E) Manly maintained their commitment (however half-heartedly) to the Northern Eagles brand by scheduling 6 games for the Season at Gosford and maintaining the 'Northern Eagles' Moniker.

F) A campaign by Norths and John Singleton, part of their effort to kill off Manly for their license, ensured that hosting games at Gosford was unprofitable, and the Stadium was abandoned in May.

G) In July 2002, it was announced that Manly would be returning, as the clubs future was secured by Delmege. Certainly not straight after the collapse of the Joint Venture...


I will concede that Manly expected Norths to be nothing more than a junior partner in the joint venture and treated them as such. They were never treated as equals, but the treatment they recieved from Manly was a million times better than the hospitality on offer elsewhere. News Corp, the ARL, and the North Sydney Board have the Bears blood on thier hands, not Manly. We just kept the corpse warm for two years.
 

Eagle_Rocker

Juniors
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Galeforce said:
didn't Manly get money to join with Norths when they joint ventured up the coast , when souths got shafted out of the competition?
As i think about it they were selfish the way they broke the joint venture , almost sending Norths to oblivion as they made noise about importance of moving back to the shire .Now they want to move back to the "
join venture ground/community minus Norths" and get the benefits all over again . Well screw them i say. Let them play in the sandbox or pay for its upgrade with their owners or supporters money , i certainly do not want any part of my NRL or tax contributions going to those wasters.

So Manly fans tax contributions have to go towards upgrading a non NRL facility in Redfern Oval as well as every other NRL club's home grounds, yet we get nothing in return.

"Moving back to the shire"? Comments like that and those regarding the fall of the joint venture, despite your obvious lack of knowledge on the issue, make you look like a moron and I think t-ba has done a good job highlighting that.

It is quite annoying when every year opposition fans, like galeforce, whinge about games at Brookie, complaining that it is a dump and not up to standard. Yet we try to gets funds to improve the place and we get ill-informed unwanted comments like that.
 
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bboy_insane said:
Galeforce has sprouted more sh*t than the sewers at Redfern

My apologies bboy................................i will adjust my previous post to read this way :

"galeforce is all piss & wind & sh!t"

:cool:
 

CC_Eagle

First Grade
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This wont happen.

We've tried and failed on the coast. The club would "move" to the SFS before they move to the coast again. 8 million dollar carrot or not.

Manly fans do not travel. Coast league fans do not want NE V 2.0.

I'm a Coast Manly fan and I'd feel sick at seeing us back up here.
 

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