CA tv rights discussion

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  1. undertaker

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    When Origin has been averaging 2.5 million+ (5 metros) viewers per game over the past decade, no way will Ch9 allow simulcasting for either Origin or NRL GF, as they are fully aware Foxtel would put a significant dent in their viewership (and therefore ad revenue) and they would be Foxtel's highest rating shows of the year.

    ROFL! Gold! That's so typical of Brayshaw
     
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  2. undertaker

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    Part in bold applied to me as well. Used to love ODIs back in the mid-90s, right through most of the 2000s, but the love for test cricket grew exponentially as I got older, as defined by series during high school such as the 2001 tour of India and 2005 Ashes. There was something test cricket was able to deliver in those series that even the best ODIs or T20s couldn't. These days, with the exception of the World Cup, I've lost interest in all the plethora of 5-7 ODI bilateral series that are played around the world these days (at least a 3-4 team ODI series had some meaning, with a spot in the final being up for grabs), and have more of an interest when Australia is playing a test match, irrespective of who its' against. Also, 50 overs format has, like T20, become a batsman's game, with the increasing number of 300+ scores teams seem to rack up, flat pitches etc. Pitches offered a lot more for bowlers in Australia 20+ years ago.

    And I agree with you about the struggles of cricket in lower grade levels. T20 and 35-40 over matches have completely dominated the landscape, and not enough 2 day games where bowlers can bowl extended overs. The late Terry Jenner (Shane Warne's coach) touched on this issue in an interview back in 2007 after Warne's retirement about the struggles of developing spin bowlers in the current junior/grade system in Australia these days.

    Although test cricket is widely acknowledged by the purists as the highest, most prestigious form of the game and as much as I hate the over-saturation of T20, T20 has opened up another audience for those such as your father, or people from non-test playing nations such as America who only want to watch a game for 3 hours. And, I think it's great that the ICC in recent years have sanctioned T20 tournaments in places such as Hong Kong and now Canada (in July), areas which the ICC has neglected despite the presence of cricket in those areas for over 100 years (yes, the first cricket international, let alone the first sporting event between two countries, was between USA and Canada in 1844). However, with the exception of the T20 World Cup, T20 should only be confined to domestic tournaments
     
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  3. undertaker

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    Another very interesting article on this Ben Amarfio:

    http://www.afr.com/brand/rear-windo...ames-brayshaw-to-channel-nine-20161211-gt8lek

    How someone like him became Executive GM - Broadcasting, Digital Media & Commercial of CA is a mystery and furthermore, on top of Peever and Sutherland's antics, says all I need to know about CA.
     
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    Just further proof of the people running the game have no idea, Peever is a germ and Sutherland would be out of his depth in a wading pool.
     
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    https://www.cricket.com.au/news/sev...l-lawry-dennis-cometti-steve-smith/2018-04-15

    Cometti FFS.
     
  6. undertaker

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    Just as I predicted again, here come the AFL personnel being lured over to the Ch7's cricket coverage:

    https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/c...-call-cricket-for-channel-seven-ng-b88806502z

    And if anyone wants to remember what Cometti sounded like last time he called cricket for Ch7, during the 1997 tour of South Africa, here it is:



    Probably the most monotonous Australian commentary team ever had for a test series: Denis Cometti, Drew Morphett, Greg Chappell, Carl Rackemann, Terry Jenner and David Hookes. Dear oh dear oh dear.

    And although it's behind a paywall, there is another article in The Australian about Bruce McAvaney potentially being the Richie Benaud/Mark Nicholas of Ch7's cricket coverage, which doesn't surprise me one bit as I mentioned in a previous post.

    In addition, at Ch7, James Brayshaw and Brian Taylor (both AFL personalities) also have called cricket in the past, so if it is true that Ch7 will have two separate commentary teams - one for the test matches and the other for BBL - high chance both of them will get a gig because it's much cheaper for Ch7 to hire an already-existing employee rather than pay another 6-digit wage for a new commentator.
     
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    As much as the paywall pisses me off regarding future exposure for the game and it's associated effects, it really is likely that Fox and mute will be the only options for Australia's sane population (ie. sans Malbun).
     
  8. undertaker

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    Regarding cross-promotion during the cricket, we all remember last summer of the annoying ads Ch10 had during their BBL coverage: I'm a Celebrity, Family Feud, Bachelor in Paradise etc.

    With Ch7 getting the FTA rights, 99% guarantee they'll heavily cross-promoting with:

    Home and Away, My Kitchen Rules, Better Homes and Gardens, American tv shows they've imported, the upcoming AFL season etc.

    And if Warne signs with Ch7, what's the odds his contract will include a stint on Home and Away, where he gets to make out with a female cast member on the show before he endures the wrath of Alf "flaming heck" Stewart?

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    One positive.

    This will be the death knell for AFLX
     
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    This sounds like their best storyline of all time
     
  12. ANTiLAG

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    Well now that CA managed to get a few more pieces of silver for the Broadcast rights, it would be great if they could price their ODI games comparable to the BBL priced games. Because watching Australia play ODI cricket in a nigh empty MCG is not a good advertisement for the game.

    And seriously sort out the scheduling for the two 3 test tour series. Because if the last test of the year is the Sydney New Years test, the summer season in Australia feels over in early January. Move the Perth or Gabba test to after if need be. And have some ODI cricket before Boxing Day. Like it used to be. I get that there is no viable alternative scheduling for the Ashes, but the Ashes is different.

    I don't quite know how CA and Nine managed to absolutely blunder the very product, day night ODI cricket, that they invented and sold to the world, and then managed to wreck it at home, while it is still comparatively in much better health elsewhere in the world.

    I still love day/night odi cricket. I don't even care that much if I miss the first half of or the entire the first innings. Or even merely just catch the last 15 overs of the chase.

    But I am looking forward to a dedicated cricket channel and anticipate more cricket tv shows, which I think have been sorely lacking besides a mere "Inside Cricket" and NZ's puff piece "the Cricket Show". I don't even care if Crash Craddock dominates these shows. I am sure they will find room for AB, O'Keefe and Stuart Clark, and the rest of their talent.

    I'd quite like a Cricket 360 type show, and the Australian summer coinciding with Safrica and NZ's provides more current international cricket to discuss.
     
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    ODI’s should be before the tests, no doubt.

    Not sure about some of your other points though.

    ODI’s haven’t exactly been killed, they still rate very well on TV. Crowds are down, however they’re still the second biggest crowds for ODI’s around the world.

    I’d say the ODI crowds are a combination of a few things

    Ticket prices too high
    More overall cricket product (with the BBL)
    And people are time poor.
     
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    The prices are wayy too high when compared to the BBL. And I suspect that the t20 has given those who are more time poor towards cricket, an option of compromise to the keener fan be they friends or family, of lets go to a t20 game instead.

    It may be nice for CA if unable to fill the large stadiums, to think about using smaller stadiums and ovals to create more atmosphere. It isn't like Australia doesn't have plenty of high quality cricket grounds beyond those that can handle AFL finals crowds.

    By spreading the games around with cheap tickets and in smaller grounds filled to capacity, it could do wonders for the look of the ODI product.

    In the ol' days, Nine used to 'blackout' cities hosting odi games involving Australia until they were sold out. So if the SCG didn't sell out, there were no guarantees of a broadcast in the Sydney metropolitan area. After Nine stopped doing this, the crowds were still up. But they have dropped off. I'm not advocating a return to this, I like my big screen tele and AirCon with cheap drinks at home as much as the next person. But there has to be way of incentivising cricket attendance, like the BBL did with cheap family concessions.

    I've read about your odi ticket prices, and I think that they're outrageous, before transport food and drink is even factored in. No wonder the grounds are so empty. The BBL has been profitable filling the huge stadiums more based on cheap packages. I just want to see CA take some iniative to getting ODI cricket humming along. Nine and CA made this format of the game what it is, with 30m circles, lights, white balls, coloured clothing. It should be a source of Australian Cricket pride.
     
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    The BBL has definitely had an impact on this.

    My brother in law takes his kids to Sixers matches now, when he used to take them to ODIs. Costs him a fraction of what it used to.
     
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...ly-lose-cricket-broadcasting-rights-to-foxtel

    Warne and Gilly in commentary together? Surely Steve Waugh can be brought in each year for the Sydney test to really make the commentary juicy.
     
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    No more high Octane action :frowning2:
     
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    They used to black out all but the last session of Test matches too.
     
  19. AlwaysGreen

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    I don't want diversity in commentators, I just want people who don't talk shit.
     
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    Brayshaw will be there on 7.

    If foxtel up there price again because they've got the cricket (like they did with the last league deal) they can get f**ked
     
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