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Cameron Smith

Mr Angry

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Smith charged with contrary conduct
From staff writers
September 22, 2008 THE season of Melbourne Storm captain Cameron Smith looks to be over after he was charged with contrary conduct by the NRL match review committee.
Smith was charged for this grapple tackle on Brisbane's Sam Thaiday during the Storm's last minute win over the Broncos on Saturday night.
Smith will need to have the charge overturned by the judicary on Wednesday night to have any chance of playing again this season.
The skipper faces a two match ban - even with an early guilty plea - because of loading and carry-over points from this round one tackle on Brent Tate, which saw Smith suspended for two weeks.
The Storm have already recruited the services of high profile QC Geoff Bellew to defend the charge.
Teammate Jeremy Smith has also been charged with a grade one "chicken wing" tackle for unnecessary pressure to the arm and shoulder of Thaiday in the same tackle.
But the Kiwi international can accept a one week ban with an early guilty plea because he has less carryover points than his namesake.
Melbourne play Cronulla in Friday's NRL preliminary final at the Sydney Football Stadium.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24383790-23214,00.html
 

Frenzy.

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Crocker becomes a huge x factor if the Smiths are sidelined.

He's off to the UK for his superannuation. He's as mad as a cut snake when he has reason to take care. He's got nothing to lose right now and will go off like a penny bunger in a tin letterbox.

He won't be taking any prisoners in this comp as long as he's still kicking along.
 

Squae

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Smith charged with contrary conduct
From staff writers
September 22, 2008 THE season of Melbourne Storm captain Cameron Smith looks to be over after he was charged with contrary conduct by the NRL match review committee.
Smith was charged for this grapple tackle on Brisbane's Sam Thaiday during the Storm's last minute win over the Broncos on Saturday night.
Smith will need to have the charge overturned by the judicary on Wednesday night to have any chance of playing again this season.
The skipper faces a two match ban - even with an early guilty plea - because of loading and carry-over points from this round one tackle on Brent Tate, which saw Smith suspended for two weeks.
The Storm have already recruited the services of high profile QC Geoff Bellew to defend the charge.
Teammate Jeremy Smith has also been charged with a grade one "chicken wing" tackle for unnecessary pressure to the arm and shoulder of Thaiday in the same tackle.
But the Kiwi international can accept a one week ban with an early guilty plea because he has less carryover points than his namesake.
Melbourne play Cronulla in Friday's NRL preliminary final at the Sydney Football Stadium.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24383790-23214,00.html


Wow i never noticed the actual charge previously "contrary conduct" is that a different charge than would usually be tabled for grappling?
 

Frenzy.

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Wow i never noticed the actual charge previously "contrary conduct" is that a different charge than would usually be tabled for grappling?

Yes. A grapple is a grapple is a grapple and you'd get charged with a grapple.

Smith didn't use a grapple. He attacked the head and neck of an opponent - hence he gets a contrary conduct charge.
 

Inferno

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Yes. A grapple is a grapple is a grapple and you'd get charged with a grapple.

Smith didn't use a grapple. He attacked the head and neck of an opponent - hence he gets a contrary conduct charge.

So as a "different" charge it would only attract 25% loading correct?

What is the minimum points for a grade one contrary conduct? Or perhaps the more appropriate question is if found guilty, is he out for 1 or 2 matches?
 
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Legends appalled by charge

September 22, 2008
PREMIERSHIP-winning former league hard men John Sattler and Mark Geyer have slammed the NRL's judicial system which could end Melbourne captain Cameron Smith's season.
Smith was charged by the match review committee for a grapple tackle on Brisbane's Sam Thaiday and faces a minimum two-game ban which would rule him out of Friday's preliminary final with Cronulla and possibly next week's grand final.

New Zealand Test forward Jeremy Smith has also been charged from the same tackle for a chicken wing offence that carries a one-match ban.

The twin charges could be a disastrous blow to Melbourne's title defence as Test back-rower Ryan Hoffman is in serious doubt to play on Friday with an ankle injury.

But it is the potential loss of Australian hooker Smith that hurts most.

The reigning golden boot winner must beat the charge at the NRL judiciary on Wednesday night or miss Melbourne's quest for back-to-back titles.

History is at least on his side as in four years, six of the eight grapple charges taken to a judiciary panel have resulted in not guilty verdicts.

But Geyer and Sattler say he has no case to answer, slamming the charge and loading system which has put Smith's season in jeopardy.

A round one grapple conviction has added loading and carryover points to the charge meaning instead of missing just one game he would now sit out two.

“It wasn't a grapple tackle,” said Geyer.

“I'm probably an expert on the judiciary because I spent 34 weeks on the sidelines because of them.

“I copped that because I sailed close to the wind on many occasions.

“But for a player like him (Smith), who's a real ornament to the game, who never plays outside the rules, to miss a preliminary final and maybe a grand final, it's just not rugby league.

“Let's get rid of the carryover points, the discounts, the loadings, it's all crap.

“If someone keeps offending and coming up before the judiciary, keep increasing his time on the sidelines until he gets the message.

“It deterred me. It didn't stop me doing it, although in retrospect it was the wrong way to play.

“But for a cleanskin like Smith, to have something he did in round one come back to bite him like it could, the system is all wrong.”

Sattler agreed with Geyer that there was “nothing” in the Thaiday tackle that warranted suspension.

“He's not a dirty player at all, he's a very talented player,” the South Sydney grand final hero said.

“This is finals football. They're killing our game by over-refereeing it. It's not a game for sissies.

“This loading is absolute crap.

“It's an embarrassment. We've got players taking the field in a heavy contact sport under fear that if they slap someone across the face they could miss a big game.”

Storm winger Steve Turner said there was clearly no malice in his skipper's tackle, adding Smith was close mates with Thaiday through their Queensland Origin connection.

“I didn't think there was any intent in that tackle at all,” said Turner.

“Cam's played with Sam in Origin and at Test level as well, Cam and Sam are very good mates, there was no malice or intent in that at all.”

The potential loss of three internationals has made little change in premiership betting, with the Storm only slightly drifting in the markets but still outright title favourites.

Preliminary final opponents Cronulla still rate the Storm major threats this week while Turner insists they can win the crown without their star trio.

What the past fortnight has revealed however is the increase of whinging by opponents who have grown tired of Melbourne's relentless wrestling techniques.

Geyer said it was a sad situation for league that players now “scream like a girl” whenever the Storm tacklers are near the neck or head.

“Players might as well start to wear skirts,” he said


http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24385726-23214,00.html

I am betting they both get off espically Smith, but lets say if it was Gallen he would be gone
 

Eion

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lol

matt geyers brother and a melbourne player say let him play
To mark geyers' credit, on Talkin Sport he did admit his opinion on this issue "may" be influenced by his brother playing for the storm. I thought that was a rare moment of honesty from the media.
 

SharkShocked

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On the 2KY this morning they reported that two leading sports scientists have come out and labelled the tackle a real danger that could have left Thaiday paralised.

If the NRL are serious about player welfare and the removal of this type of stuff from the game, they will not bend to the fact that he is a marquee player for the Storm and the league.

More to the point is the actual wording of the charge. How will the defence label that his actions are neccessary contact with the head and neck, i think he will face an uphill battle to get off.
 
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