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Can we (realistically) make the 8 in 2020

muzby

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LOL I would hazard a guess the forum would be elated at such a contest but alas the stakes are bit too high for you to consider standing behind your assertions.
I believe nobody else gives a shit about our stoushes.

This ridiculous back and forward just ruins the experience for everyone else.


We’ll make the 8.
 

RedVDave

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Having the season shortened by 5 rounds and starting the season 0-4 all but killed any hope of this happening.

The run home consists of us playing Rabbitohs, Roosters, Storm, Knights & Eels all those games are at very long odds of us winning.

Finally our second half season fade out is also on the horizon if this does happen again which it very well could I'd love see Mary's excuse as he usually pinpoints origin to blame (even though 15 other clubs are affected by it as well)

So basically I'm saying no, no we won't make the 8.
 

Dragon Revival

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We would have a slight chance if we got De Belin back and promoted Ramsey to wing. We got thrashed in a couple of games but with thecright selections and no injuries/suspensions the ability is there. De Belin would stiffen the defence and Ramsey scores about a try per game like Dufty/Blacklock.
 

Dragon David

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Realistically - No! Hopefully - Yes!

The next three games against Souths, Roosters and Eels are hurdles that we need to get over which I cannot see that we will so realistically I say we won't make the final 8.

The next three years after 2020 we will need major changes to all personnel - coaches, players, board members, recruiters etc and business management to realise any success. We need someone or a company with a lot of money and sense to help build us up to ensure that we can compete in the player market and be more dominant on the pitch, otherwise ......
 

Walpole

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Can we make the 8? Nah, dropping 6 points against the Bulldogs, Warriors and Sharks should give you the answer. We're 4-7 and we've only played 3 top teams.

We'll be competitive, Dufty and Lomax will provide some highlights, we might spring an upset on a more fancied opponent and there's a good chance we beat the QLD teams but somewhere around 11th or 12th is our destiny.
 

Lethal25

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Would need to win 6 of remaining 9 games.....not happening. Haven't beaten a top 8 team for a very very long time
 

mickeylane

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Need to win 65% of remaining games 0r 6 out of 9/.. so we can afford losses against Roosters, Storm, Parra....thats it....need to beat Raiders, souths out of the next notable opponents..
 

redVinme

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Teams like raiders are missing half a first grade team and still better than us...

Imagine if we had
Hunt (hodgson)
Rav(simminson)
Friz (Bateman)
Mcinnes (horsborough)
Dufty ( CNK)

Plus more all out like the raiders.

Buckleys
 

Dragonslayer

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Need to win 65% of remaining games 0r 6 out of 9/.. so we can afford losses against Roosters, Storm, Parra....thats it....need to beat Raiders, souths out of the next notable opponents..

I said in a post last week that the game v Sharls was our virtual Gf and it appears to be so. I cant see us winning against the Raiders and the Knights game will come down to what mood Ponga is in. This weeks game v Rabbits will centre on Mitchell.
 

matPORTS

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Dragons = 8 points
Rabbits, Roosters, Eels, Broncos, Titans, Cowboys, Raiders, Knights, Storm.

Breaking it down:

I'd say wins against all three of the QLD Teams would almost be a must (6 points)

Of the six other remaining games we need to win at least four of those to have any hope, maybe three wins at an absolute minimum (6 or 8 points)

That will give us 22 or 20 points, thus also relying on F/A and how the other teams fighting for 7th & 8th place go.

Another thing which doesn't help is that we will only play one team who looks like they will be fighting for either 7th or 8th spot, and that is this week against the Rabbits. That almost certainly makes this week a must win game (and we'd need a F/A swing in the process). At least immediately, it is important that Sharks, Sea Eagles, Tigers, Rabbits all drop points (then later on might be able to focus on the fact that Raiders & Knights might be vulnerable with their mounting injury tolls).

Our more recent games have shown that we've got points scoring ability in us, which we will need to turn our F/A positive. But at the same time, we've also given up our momentum and leads during crucial periods of the last two matches.

Realistically - no chance of making the final 8.
But have also seen enough to think that obtaining 12 points from our remaining games isn't unrealistic.
What net benefit does going on a run, winning games against the front runners, and making the finals give us though?
 

Dragon David

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Breaking it down:

I'd say wins against all three of the QLD Teams would almost be a must (6 points)

Of the six other remaining games we need to win at least four of those to have any hope, maybe three wins at an absolute minimum (6 or 8 points)

That will give us 22 or 20 points, thus also relying on F/A and how the other teams fighting for 7th & 8th place go.

Another thing which doesn't help is that we will only play one team who looks like they will be fighting for either 7th or 8th spot, and that is this week against the Rabbits. That almost certainly makes this week a must win game (and we'd need a F/A swing in the process). At least immediately, it is important that Sharks, Sea Eagles, Tigers, Rabbits all drop points (then later on might be able to focus on the fact that Raiders & Knights might be vulnerable with their mounting injury tolls).

Our more recent games have shown that we've got points scoring ability in us, which we will need to turn our F/A positive. But at the same time, we've also given up our momentum and leads during crucial periods of the last two matches.

Realistically - no chance of making the final 8.
But have also seen enough to think that obtaining 12 points from our remaining games isn't unrealistic.
What net benefit does going on a run, winning games against the front runners, and making the finals give us though?
What net benefit does going on a run, winning games against the front runners, and making the finals give us though?
The net benefit would be the excitement one would feel in beating the front runners and to hear the chant in the sheds after the games. Of course this would be offset with Mary having the belief that he is a great coach.
 

_Johnsy

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What net benefit does going on a run, winning games against the front runners, and making the finals give us though?
The net benefit would be the excitement one would feel in beating the front runners and to hear the chant in the sheds after the games. Of course this would be offset with Mary having the belief that he is a great coach.
Also a possible extension (yes I’m joking) but we all know it would be a distinct possibility with our current board.
 

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