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Canberra/Broncos reffing SHOCKER!

skeepe

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To understand why Raiders fans are so annoyed at the decision to award Michaels the try, here's a frame from the Knights vs Raiders game (thanks to greeneyed from GH)

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This was ruled a NO TRY. Now, compare it to the Michaels try. And people wonder why Raiders fans are sick and tired of these decisions.
 

Frank_Grimes

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skeepe said:
To understand why Raiders fans are so annoyed at the decision to award Michaels the try, here's a frame from the Knights vs Raiders game (thanks to greeneyed from GH)

alantonguetryv2ld2.jpg


This was ruled a NO TRY. Now, compare it to the Michaels try. And people wonder why Raiders fans are sick and tired of these decisions.

If it were my team, I'd be more sick and tired of them coughing up posession and making poor decisions on the kick. Giving away silly penalties with slaps to the head and headbutting players after the full time siren. Honestly, for every dud ref decision that has disadvantaged the Raiders I'm sure I could name one that has affected the Broncos, or any other team. Dud decisions happen to all teams, it's how they overcome them that counts. The Michaels try was the correct decision, it looks like the Raiders may have been robbed of a try against Newcastle. The Carney decision was a rough one and could have gone either way. The Broncos could have been upset about Thorn being denied a try despite BOTD.

If you can't see that the Raiders switched off midway in the second half, and never really held onto the ball, then you need to start watching another sport. Some here claim that the Raiders would have beaten Brisbane if not for those calls going against them - Rubbish.

You copped a rough call with the Carney no-try and your team couldn't overcome it.
 

skeepe

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Frank_Grimes said:
If it were my team, I'd be more sick and tired of them coughing up posession and making poor decisions on the kick. Giving away silly penalties with slaps to the head and headbutting players after the full time siren. Honestly, for every dud ref decision that has disadvantaged the Raiders I'm sure I could name one that has affected the Broncos, or any other team. Dud decisions happen to all teams, it's how they overcome them that counts. The Michaels try was the correct decision, it looks like the Raiders may have been robbed of a try against Newcastle. The Carney decision was a rough one and could have gone either way. The Broncos could have been upset about Thorn being denied a try despite BOTD.

If you can't see that the Raiders switched off midway in the second half, and never really held onto the ball, then you need to start watching another sport. Some here claim that the Raiders would have beaten Brisbane if not for those calls going against them - Rubbish.

You copped a rough call with the Carney no-try and your team couldn't overcome it.

It's the point of the matter. The Raiders WOULD have won had Carney scored - there is no doubt whatsoever about that. Just like, had the Tongue try above been awarded, the Raiders would have won that match (the final margin was 4 points). Just like, had the Cowboys had a try called back for a blatant offside, the Raiders would have won that match.

Three matches decided by video refs who, in all reality, should be faultless. That surely is the nub of the matter.

In the Broncos match, the Raiders were much worse in the first half than they were in the second. They still lead 7-6 at half time, and had they not been dudded on the Carney call, would have lead 19-6. Given the way Brisbane were playing, that would have been an insurmountable lead.
 

Frank_Grimes

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skeepe said:
It's the point of the matter. The Raiders WOULD have won had Carney scored - there is no doubt whatsoever about that. Just like, had the Tongue try above been awarded, the Raiders would have won that match (the final margin was 4 points). Just like, had the Cowboys had a try called back for a blatant offside, the Raiders would have won that match.

Three matches decided by video refs who, in all reality, should be faultless. That surely is the nub of the matter.

In the Broncos match, the Raiders were much worse in the first half than they were in the second. They still lead 7-6 at half time, and had they not been dudded on the Carney call, would have lead 19-6. Given the way Brisbane were playing, that would have been an insurmountable lead.

You're coming across as being a sore loser. The Broncos (and every other team in the league) have had the same type of decisions go against them. You say that the way the Broncos were playing, they would not be able to score more than 19 points (How many points did the Broncos score anyway?). Have a look at the way the Raiders were playing! The first half was littered with errors and stupid penalties. And after an obvious spray from Neil Henry, the errors still continued in the second half. Twice, a Canberra player had the opportunity to catch a downfield kick with no defender in front of them, and twice they batted it back, bombing a chance to score. And in the end they only managed 19 points after the Broncos switched off with the game already won.
 

skeepe

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Frank_Grimes said:
You're coming across as being a sore loser. The Broncos (and every other team in the league) have had the same type of decisions go against them. You say that the way the Broncos were playing, they would not be able to score more than 19 points (How many points did the Broncos score anyway?). Have a look at the way the Raiders were playing! The first half was littered with errors and stupid penalties. And after an obvious spray from Neil Henry, the errors still continued in the second half. Twice, a Canberra player had the opportunity to catch a downfield kick with no defender in front of them, and twice they batted it back, bombing a chance to score. And in the end they only managed 19 points after the Broncos switched off with the game already won.

Sore loser? I think not. Sick and tired of seeing my team dudded week after week after week after week? You f**king bet ya!

Statistics show that the Raiders have had more tries disallowed this season than ANY OTHER TEAM, with 28. Some of them are fair enough, but others, like the Todd Carney try, well they're momentum changing. They're game changing. And these figures support the fact that there is an agenda against the Raiders in the refereeing ranks. Why that is? I have no idea. Maybe Robert Finch is still sour about the way he was sacked from the club. Maybe he resents the way his son is despised by Canberra fans. Whatever the reason, it's blatant and it's sickening.
 

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It's the point of the matter. The Raiders WOULD have won had Carney scored - there is no doubt whatsoever about that.

Of course. How could any team possibly overcome being 13 points behind with 30 minutes to go. Unheard of.

:lol:

Give it up Skeepe, fair dinkum.
 

Big Pete

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Didn't we score 24 points against the Raiders in 11 minutes in 2006? In any case get over the conspiricy; the better team won on the day.
 

Mr Saab

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Didnt Brisbane score 31-0 in the 2nd half against the puppy dogs in the prelim final of 2006?
Didnt the puppy dogs score 16 points in 11 minutes vs the eels in the 1998 prelim final.
The bloody cowboys in 1998 were down 26-0 at halftime to the panthers and won 36-28.

Yeah, 13 points is massive score to overcome.
 

skeepe

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Brisbane fans don't agree with me. Imagine my surprise. Facts are your team was going sh*t until you get the ridiculous leg-up with the blatantly wrong decisions.
 

Mr Saab

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Canberra fans not admitting their players make STUPID decisions with and without the ball...what a suprise.
 

Meanie

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skeepe said:
Brisbane fans don't agree with me. Imagine my surprise. Facts are your team was going sh*t until you get the ridiculous leg-up with the blatantly wrong decisions.

Facts:

* The decisions were contentious, however arguments have been made how both decisions were given tries, it does note inconsistencies, but they've been happening everywhere

* Thorn was denied a try in the first half without being given benefit of the doubt, so it happened to Brisbane in the first half

* Matt Geyer dropped the ball over the line 2 weeks ago against the Broncos yet the try was given, the Storm went on to win. Please find me the equivalent whinging threads from Bronco fans

Mate, Canberra lost because they fell in a laughable gutless heap after one contentious decision. Accept it and move on you bloody whingers.
 

skeepe

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Meanie said:
Facts:

* The decisions were contentious, however arguments have been made how both decisions were given tries, it does note inconsistencies, but they've been happening everywhere

The decisions were WRONG. Inconsistencies are not good enough. They should not be happening.

* Thorn was denied a try in the first half without being given benefit of the doubt, so it happened to Brisbane in the first half

There is no way in hell that was even close to a try. If that had been given, I'd be blowing up deluxe about THREE incorrect calls.

* Matt Geyer dropped the ball over the line 2 weeks ago against the Broncos yet the try was given, the Storm went on to win. Please find me the equivalent whinging threads from Bronco fans

You had every right. Just because you didn't complain doesn't mean you hold the moral high ground, oh righteous one.

Mate, Canberra lost because they fell in a laughable gutless heap after one contentious decision. Accept it and move on you bloody whingers.

Canberra lost because of two blatantly incorrect refereeing decisions and no other reason - and it's not the first time this season.
 

Mr Saab

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skeepe said:
Canberra lost because of two blatantly incorrect refereeing decisions and no other reason .

The 19 errors the raiders made doesnt come into it? Not even a little incy wincy bit?
 

Meanie

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skeepe said:
Canberra lost because of two blatantly incorrect refereeing decisions and no other reason - and it's not the first time this season.

Then explain how QLD won Game 3 2006 and Game 1 2007 after being similarly dudded! Explain!
 

Paullyboy

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Mr Saab said:
The 19 errors the raiders made doesnt come into it? Not even a little incy wincy bit?

I was over this debate long ago, but I dont want you in particular to feel like you've been successful so I guess I have to keep going.

13 of the Raiders incompletions occurred while we were either equal or in the lead. So this crap excuse you keep trying to run about the Raiders killing themselves is clearly not valid - as we made most of our mistakes in the period where we were winning. We only started losing when the match officials started taking control to ensure the fairy tale - it had nothing to do with incompletions.
 

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