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Captains challenge

Meth

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With every second article being written about it, largely by idiots who know nothing of the game pre NRL, I'm not surprised. Doesn't make it correct.

well, I don't read (or even see) every second article. I live outside of Sydney, so that helps.

I'm just going by the standard of refereeing this year, starting with early season 'crack downs' (which have since been abandoned). And the last month has been uncommonly bad and not just for my team.
 
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To suggest current admin is worse than under Gallop, I mean come on. They might lack competence now but News Limited's involvement in RL admin was tantamount to corruption.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Things aren't as doom and gloom as people are making out.

A few years ago we were having games week in week out being ruined by obstruction rulings, that has largely been eradicated.

The refs almost always get the grounding of balls right.

The major issue right now is having people in the refs ear all game telling them how to ref.

And Luke Patton.
 

Meth

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Look, I know that there have always been howlers. I am not disputing that. I do think though that when it was a simpler game, we were a little bit more accepting of them. There's only one ref (and 2 touch judges) and it's impossible for them to see everything- which of course is the argument for increasing the number of eyes and processes to get the decision right. The problem is that they aren't getting it right. Maybe they're getting it wrong less often. Maybe the howlers are less grievous- although I doubt it. But it seems to me that we have a justifiable expectation that if we accommodate all of this technology and these stoppages in our game, that the errors and especially the howlers will be absolutely minimal- and they aren't.
 

Meth

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To suggest current admin is worse than under Gallop, I mean come on. They might lack competence now but News Limited's involvement in RL admin was tantamount to corruption.

Yep ok- to be honest, I don't really follow the business/administration of NRL too closely and maybe 'administration' was a poorly chosen word. I guess what I meant to achieve there was to point beyond the referees on field performance to the off field factors which may affect their performance.
 

Meth

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Well then you have a poor memory. The game pre commission was in a comparitivly horrendous state. Would you prefer David Gallop back to negotiate our media deals again?

see concession above
 

Quicksilver

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How many weeks in until a team exhausts all their challenges and an absolute howler happens without review?

Fine, I guess. But I can already see the headline and the screeching from the Tele and Fox Sports

"It was clear! It was obvious! Why can't the bunker have a word in his ear????? Where's the common sense!!!!11111111 The Captain's Challenge system is a failure!!"

I'd give it maybe a month.
 

Quicksilver

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Yep ok- to be honest, I don't really follow the business/administration of NRL too closely and maybe 'administration' was a poorly chosen word. I guess what I meant to achieve there was to point beyond the referees on field performance to the off field factors which may affect their performance.

Ask anyone from nineteen-seventy-something about Greg Hartley if you want controversy.

And there were similar characters before that too.
 
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typicalfan

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To suggest current admin is worse than under Gallop, I mean come on. They might lack competence now but News Limited's involvement in RL admin was tantamount to corruption.
What would you call sacking 2 officials but keeping the head ref who is also the brother of the refs boss? Giving him a “demotion”.
 

typicalfan

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I see what you've done there. Very nice. I don't think it is as quite as serious as defrauding the game of millions of dollars in revenue though. :wink:
I just wish we had more choice than incompetence mixed with poor leadership/a bit of nepotism and the other option being News masquerading as doing the best for the game and corruption.

Can we just have competent please
 

Quicksilver

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There are other threads debating who made what error. Sutton was obligated to stop the game when the flag was raised. That was the error.

As discussed in other threads, that is not actually not clear in the rules.

But I look forward to never reviewing a player touching the sideline again.
 

carcharias

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There are other threads debating who made what error. Sutton was obligated to stop the game when the flag was raised. That was the error.
But refs don’t stop games when a bloke runs down the sideline and dives in the corner for a try...with a touchie holding up a flag.
They give it an opinion and send it to the bunker.
Which is exactly what Sutton did.
The 2 idiots on the field nearly cost the sharks the game.
Thank Christ for the bunker .
 
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