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Carl Webb Axed from 1st Grade

Kaz

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Who will be next?
MICHAEL WESTLAKE
21sep03

STATE of Origin rugby league star Carl Webb has been told his first-grade career at Brisbane is over.

In the first stunning fall-out from Brisbane's disastrous season, coach Wayne Bennett told the powerhouse forward at a Friday meeting that
he would be granted a release if he wanted to play first grade at
another club.

Webb was told he would not get the chance to do that with the Broncos next year.

And there could be further shocks in store for Brisbane's demoralised squad, with at least another two members of this year's first-grade
squad understood to be facing the axe from the Broncos top 25.

A shake-up was inevitable after Brisbane lost seven successive premiership games and was then bundled out by Penrith in the first
week of the finals.

Such a savage reprimand against Webb is clearly a sign from
Bennett that this year's performance was unacceptable and a repeat
performance would not be tolerated.

Webb could not be contacted yesterday but it is understood he told Bennett he was prepared to fight his way back through the Toowoomba Clydesdales and prove he still could be a first-grade forward.

Webb signed a new two-year contract with the Broncos only last
season, rejecting what was believed to be a $300,000-a-season offer from North Queensland because of, his manager said at the time,
loyalty to Bennett. The deal was believed to be about half the Cowboys offer.

Broncos chief executive Bruno Cullen would not comment yesterday, other than to confirm that the remaining year of Webb's contract
would be honoured, but a release would be granted if requested.

"I am aware that Wayne will be talking to a number of players,
perhaps the whole group, during the off-season to get focused on the year ahead and talk about what has to be done," Cullen said.

The news is a stunning fall from grace for the 22-year-old, who
exploded on to the big stage with his famous bullocking try for Queensland in the first State of Origin game of 2001.

Webb was one of a host of Maroons rookies making his Origin debut
that night, but gained instant celebrity status after running over three NSW defenders to score.

Since then his form has failed to reach the same heights and he has endured long battles against injury, form and fitness.

The writing was on the wall two weeks ago when a frustrated Bennett dumped Webb from the first-grade squad to play St George Illawarra
in the last round of the minor premiership.

"I'm not going to go into details about it," Bennett said at the time.
"But the fact is he is not in the team and I've not been happy with
the way he's been playing for us."

Webb left training immediately after learning of his dumping, saying he was still hopeful he would get a call-up for the finals.

That call-up came in last weekend's elimination quarter final against Penrith, but his performance did not deliver the spark Bennett was seeking.

In 18 minutes, Webb had six hit-ups for 50m gained, six tackles,
three missed tackles and two penalties conceded.

Bennett began to lose patience with Webb after the Broncos loss
to Parramatta the week before the Dragons match.

With the Broncos in a worrying losing streak, Bennett hoped Webb
would stand up to produce his best when most needed.

But Bennett was said to have been disappointed.

Webb's manager Barry Collins did not want to comment yesterday.

Cowboys coach Graham Murray said he felt sorry for Webb and the predicament he faced, but North Queensland had no room under the salary cap to make a bid for him for next season.

"It is a shame for him, because we chased hard for him last season
and we think he would have been a good asset for us," Murray said.
"But we just don't have the room for him any more."

Aside from the Cowboys, Webb was also tempted by offers from the Sydney Roosters and the New Zealand Warriors last year before he
re-signed with Brisbane.

Webb has a close relationship with former Queensland Origin captain
and coach Arthur Beetson, who is the Roosters development manager.

Beetson scouted Webb as a 15-year-old and tried to lure him to the Roosters, but the former amateur boxing champion elected to sign
with Brisbane.

But like most clubs, the Roosters have spent the majority of their
money available under the salary cap and would struggle to offer
Webb a contract that could lure him away from Brisbane.

http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,7325230%5E2764,00.html


Brad Meyers & Dane Carlaw should be a bit worried.
 

misty

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:shock: Wow! Wayne doesn't muck around does he?
not that I can blame him the broncs went backwards fast they can do better than that they were always in the finals once, its sad to see a good side end the season like they did with so many good players I hope they can sort it all out before the 04 season starts.
 

salivor

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Its craziness if you ask me. Theres obviously been a clash between Bennett and Webb and as usual Bennett has come out on top. We've got alot of talent in the forward but I feel Webb still has alot to offer off the bench and if he can get his act together hes going to add plenty to which ever club he continues his career with.

I'd like to see Meyers released from his contract but I don't see much point in axeing players at this point. We're just weakening our squad with nothing really on the player market now. The best way to go about it would've been to tell the out of form players like Meyers and Webb that they'll be starting for Toowoomba next year and won't get back into first grade until they get their act together. If they don't show any improvement by June 30 next year then you axe them and go on the market for some quality.
 

Kiwi

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salivor said:
Its craziness if you ask me. Theres obviously been a clash between Bennett and Webb and as usual Bennett has come out on top. We've got alot of talent in the forward but I feel Webb still has alot to offer off the bench and if he can get his act together hes going to add plenty to which ever club he continues his career with.

I'd like to see Meyers released from his contract but I don't see much point in axeing players at this point. We're just weakening our squad with nothing really on the player market now. The best way to go about it would've been to tell the out of form players like Meyers and Webb that they'll be starting for Toowoomba next year and won't get back into first grade until they get their act together. If they don't show any improvement by June 30 next year then you axe them and go on the market for some quality.

I don't agree with you about it weakening our squad. Over the last few years Webb has done nothing. He gets hurt, comes back for toowoomba, plays his arse off to get back into the top 17, has one good game then drops off, puts on weight and gets hurt again. We have Coorey, Thaiday, Wyatt and Mapp who are all better than Webb overall.

I think Meyers should start from toowoomba next year, but I wouldn't release him. If after a year playing for toowoomba he doesn't get back into form, then yeah sure release him.

The Broncos have some great young forwards coming through, axing Webb means they will get more of the chance they deserve.
 

salivor

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Webb deserves one more chance. He only got back on the paddock for us in the latter stages of the season after a long time on the sideline struggling with injury. He came back into a team that wasn't playing well and I think he deserves one more shot to start for Toowoomba and show if hes got what it takes before the June 30 mark next year.
 

The Colonel

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That would be why Mapp has been back and forward between the Raiders right?

On his day Webb is more damaging then the Partying Calf. Meyers and Carlaw should be extremely worried as Webb has worked his a#$e off to get back into grade. There weren't a hell of a lot of Broncos that stood up in the remaining weeks so to single out Webb stinks of something else....
 

Master Vitaly

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Damn, I've always been a huge fan of Carl Webb.. It would be AWESOME if the Warriors could offer him something he would be happy with.. His style would suit the Warriors something chronic!! He'd be the perfect replacement for the outgoing Logan Swann.. Hopefully the Mick Watson and Anderson look into it cause I'd be the happiest Warrior fan in the world if he was signed for next season! :D :D :D
 

Spike

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any chance of a somewhat hidden agenda in that releasing a few players may free up enough cash to lure Ikin to come out of retirement?
 

Kaz

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Bailey said:
any chance of a somewhat hidden agenda in that releasing a few players may free up enough cash to lure Ikin to come out of retirement?

Considering Ikin retired because he can't run properly, I can't see him coming back.
 
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