Cartwright the wanker

[skeepe]

John Cartwright has fast become the most foul, loathsome human being to hold an NRL coaching role.

Every single time his player does something wrong, he tries to influence the judiciary with his post match comments, saying they shouldn't be suspended despite the fact that they're a pack of absolute thugs.

But this time, he's gone too far. He has actually applauded Bodene Thompson's late, high, deliberate elbow that broke Travis Waddell's jaw:

Thompson's natural aggression is a valued commodity by the Titans and Cartwright yesterday refused to make any apologies for the 21-year-old hitman's style.


"That is just Bo, he goes in hard," said Cartwright.


"I didn't have much of an issue with the tackle.


"If it occurred two or three years ago it would have been fully legal.


"I suppose there was accidental contact with the head but there was nothing intentional.


"It is unfortunate sometimes that the rule makers don't see that there are accidents in the game."


http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2010/04/01/203675_gold-coast-titans.html

I sincerely hope Cartwright finds himself on the end of one of these "accidents". Then he can tell us all how great it is while his jaw is wired shut, like poor Travis Waddell's is at the moment.

 

[ByRd]

Nothing wrong with what he said, the tackle was not deliberate at all and as he said a few years ago would of been a good and fair tackle, just bad luck for Waddell

 

[MattJ]

The titans have a bad habit of trying to force there point of view through the media on issues that are usually very black and white. We saw it last year with the whole Zillman biting incident as well.
Sure makes them a hell of a lot less likeable.

 

[Mr Saab]

Cartwright does have an attitude about him...a bad one

 

[Firey_Dragon]

The titans have a bad habit of trying to force there point of view through the media on issues that are usually very black and white. We saw it last year with the whole Zillman biting incident as well.
Sure makes them a hell of a lot less likeable.

It's hardly a black and white issue. Thompson got charged with the highest grade tackle, without intention or a swinging arm. It was a shoulder charge gone wrong by the letter of the law, and unfortunate for Waddell, but no chance in hell was that the worst high tackle you can do. He was committed, I can't see how he could have avoided that collision.

It was probably worthy of a grade 3 at worst IMO.

 

[Big Pete]

Is there a pictorial evidence to back up your claim that it was an elbow to the jaw, skeepe?

By the by, the Game Analyser is absolutely useless on the official NRL website. I can't get it to work...ever

 

[skeepe]

Is there a pictorial evidence to back up your claim that it was an elbow to the jaw, skeepe?

No idea. The fact that the Raiders say it was is good enough for me. There's no incentive for them to lie about it, and they'd know better than anyone.

 

[Firey_Dragon]

No idea. The fact that the Raiders say it was is good enough for me. There's no incentive for them to lie about it, and they'd know better than anyone.

I've seen the footage 10 times or so. I can't see an elbow anywhere, and if there was it certainly wasn't cocked or intentional.

 

[TheEelDeal]

From what i saw, It was just a shoulder charge gone wrong, which has been made out worse than it is due to the fact Waddell's jaw has been broken. But i agree Cartwright needs to learn and accept the fact that his players are not immune to the judiciary. The whole Zillman incident went overboard last year, when there was clear evidence of biting!

 

[El Diablo]

there was no elbow

skeepe just being a moron as per usual

 

[petetheileet]

It comes with Cartwrights presence though...

I wouldn't mess with him and most people wouldn't, he knows it

Its part of his demeaner (spelling?)

 

[Tom Ace]

I don't think what he said was particularly bad or incorrect.

I may be slightly biased though as i have a soft spot for our real 2002 premiership coach.

 

[skeepe]

From what i saw, It was just a shoulder charge gone wrong, which has been made out worse than it is due to the fact Waddell's jaw has been broken. But i agree Cartwright needs to learn and accept the fact that his players are not immune to the judiciary. The whole Zillman incident went overboard last year, when there was clear evidence of biting!

He also pressured the judiciary not to charge Bailey for tripping, despite it being intentional and there being clear contact.

Coincidentally, Bailey wasn't charged. Wasn't that lucky?

 

[GC_Gladiator]

No way do I think it was deliberate. It was a shoulder charge gone wrong; and again there is nothing wrong with what Cartwright has said. I do think that it is laughable that we didnt even get a penalty for it, let alone 10 minutes in the bin. We wouldn't have won the game but atleast the Raiders gain some advantage out of it. I can't see any advantage to the raiders in all of this if Thompson doesnt play for the next few weeks.

 

[Dutchy]

Hopoate also said his hit on Galloway was a mistimed shoulder charge gone wrong.

 

[Fui!!!]

I agree with Cartwright on this.

Nothing wrong with the tackle IMO.

 

[westie]

His hand is by his side, it couldn't be any lower at all.

If Waddell wasn't so small, it would have been an excellent tackle. If he wasn't hurt, it would have had Brut Big Hit written all over it and we'd all be talking him up. Waddell was hit with the top of a shoulder - what do you want him to do. Cuddle Waddell so as not to hurt him?

 

[youngun]

Hopoate also said his hit on Galloway was a mistimed shoulder charge gone wrong.

Was just thinking the same thing but more along the lines that didn't Hoppa get maximum time off for his hit and this one has been charged at the same grade?? If that is the case then it's a farce, sure it was a mistimed shoulder charge but it was no where near as malice as Hoppa's hit was. Hoppa only had one thing on hos mins, take out Big Keith!!

 

[Tamwelg]

But this time, he's gone too far. He has actually applauded Bodene Thompson's late, high, deliberate elbow that broke Travis Waddell's jaw

You are full of so much sh*t it isn't funny. You obviously did not look at the footage on youtube I posted in the last thread you claimed he elbowed him in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei0ZOpCo43k as you can see his arm was by his side and his shoulder hits him in the head. As far as late goes, the ball had only just left his hands, he was committed to the tackle.

Now take that drip out of your arm that is feeding green blood into your veins and come back to reality. It was an accidental high shot that copped the penalty it deserved or maybe the penalty was a tad excessive, but I'll take 3 weeks.

 

[Tamwelg]

No idea. The fact that the Raiders say it was is good enough for me. There's no incentive for them to lie about it, and they'd know better than anyone.

Making all these claim and being so passionate about it and you haven't even seen the tackle, LMAO. Your only going on what someone else has told you or what you have heard. Do you actually have an opinion of your own? If the Raiders came out and said David Gallop is now the Prime Minister of Australia you'd probably believe that too. There is only 1 wanker here and it isn't Cartwright. Yes I'm looking at you in case you're too slow to pick up on that.