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Celtic team has just got a bit worse

cymrurl

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Brian Noble to replace John Dixon?

The BBC seem to think it could be true.

John Dixon remains coy about his future as Celtic Crusaders coach amid growing speculation that he is to be replaced by Wigan Warriors boss Brian Noble. Former Great Britain chief Noble admits he is in unsure whether he will be in charge at Wigan next season. Noble is out of contract at the end of the season while Dixon was rumoured to be taking a Crusaders development role. Dixon said: "This time of the year every club goes under review and there are plans and processes in place."

Noble, who joined the Warriors in 2006 after five years as head coach at Bradford Bulls, has been heavily linked with a move to the Welsh club as speculation mounts over his future at the DW Stadium. Dixon, who joined the Crusaders project after 10 years on the coaching staff at Brisbane Broncos, has done much to increase rugby league participation at grassroots level in a South Wales area that is traditionally a hotbed for rugby union. So a development position for Dixon seems a distinct possibility for the Australian coach. "Clubs by definition have to improve on a year in year out basis," Dixon told BBC Sport.

"I understand the speculation and it comes across to the players as well.
"The most important thing for me is the club survives."

"There has been an enormous amount of groundwork made over the last four years to establish this sport in Wales and to give it a foothold and give it something which has some substance."

"Individuals at clubs change but my hope in the next two years this club goes further and becomes stronger to show it has got a place in Wales."

The Crusaders are making no comment on media rumours linking them with Noble as Dixon, who has been Crusaders coach since their inception in 2005, is also out of contract at the end of the season.Crusaders chairman Leighton Samuel, whose club are in the first year of their three-year Super League franchise, told the Sport Wales show: "We've got to look forward to next year and make a lot of changes."

"The first season is out of the way and our expectations weren't high, but we've not done well on or off the field."

Dixon said in August he was happy at the club, but stopped short of confirming he would be with them next season. "There'll be some changes next year for sure, some forced rather than considered," added Dixon.

"I'm enjoying my life here... There's no job with less secure of tenure than coaching. We've grown fantastically as a club... maybe too fast. But this is year one, a stepping stone, we must learn and grow from this."

The Super League new boys lie bottom of the table with three wins from their 25 Super League matches while Noble's Wigan booked their place in the end-of-season play-offs with victory over Castleford last week. Wigan coach Noble admitted: "Is it true I don't know where I'm going to be next season? Yes."

"You can let these kind of things upset you but I'm determined to finish the season with as many games as possible for Wigan. What will be, will be."
Earlier this season it emerged his job was offered to New Zealand's World Cup-winning boss Stephen Kearney.

But Noble insists: "I'm not worried in the slightest. I'm confident as a person and as a coach."

"All I can say is that I'm in the same position, working as hard as I possibly can here."

"I can only control what I'm in control of. If things haven't developed, then obviously you do have to look at your future."

"That's a natural progression of life. I'm comfortable where I am. I'm working extremely hard for Wigan."
I'm not sure if this would be a good thing or not. I'd be surprised to see Noble there I'm sure that if he didn't get his contract renewed by Wigan there would be plenty of other clubs, with bigger resources than the Crusaders looking to get him.
 

The Tank

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Gotta admit I was wrong. Celtic was a big mistake. I understand that they need time to grow a supporter base but FMD just under 2k is unacceptable at the elite level. I they stick with them and help build their supporter base but it's a disastrous start.
 

Sam_the_man

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Gotta admit I was wrong. Celtic was a big mistake. I understand that they need time to grow a supporter base but FMD just under 2k is unacceptable at the elite level. I they stick with them and help build their supporter base but it's a disastrous start.

Wales is a league out post though. And with the Crusaders not able to sign quality players for this season they were always going to do it tough. They need to stick with the Crusaders for the long haul. Help them sign quality players. A winning side will see the fans back and watching the team again.
 

The Tank

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Wales is a league out post though. And with the Crusaders not able to sign quality players for this season they were always going to do it tough. They need to stick with the Crusaders for the long haul. Help them sign quality players. A winning side will see the fans back and watching the team again.

I agree but it is concerning. Seems EuroRL is advertised less than the NRL - which is saying something!
 

Evil Homer

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To be fair they've only had one other crowd anything like as low as that all season, and that was for a rearranged fixture.
 

WireMan

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Next season they are taking one game up to the North (Wrexham) and will be playing one of the Lancastrian teams. There should be a few people for that one and it may help the game in Wales as Union isn't very strong in that area.

Other than that i think they have done better than expected this year. There worth having in the league on the basis that they beat the pies and gave us all a good laugh. :D
 

cymrurl

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Next season they are taking one game up to the North (Wrexham) and will be playing one of the Lancastrian teams. There should be a few people for that one and it may help the game in Wales as Union isn't very strong in that area.

Other than that i think they have done better than expected this year. There worth having in the league on the basis that they beat the pies and gave us all a good laugh. :D

How well did people expect them to do then? Considering they only won 3 games and conceded over 800 points. I was rather hoping they wouldn't finish bottom.
 

WireMan

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How well did people expect them to do then? Considering they only won 3 games and conceded over 800 points. I was rather hoping they wouldn't finish bottom.

How well? Bottom. No wins.

They were an unknown team that needed to bring in a brand new team.

Salford had to do the same, but Salfords name carries more weight and being in Lancashire it probably helps bring players in.
 

Evil Homer

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I don't think anyone expected them to get 0 wins. At a push I was hopefully they may not finish bottom, but to be honest with the amount of injuries and bad luck they have had over the season, the current tally is really all that could have been asked of them.
 

WireMan

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ok i'll grant you i was being a bit harsh, they were always on to win one or two, but they would be shock results.

I don't know who you thought would finish below them, maybe Quins or Salford. The rest of superleague has stepped up this year though to make it a close competion. This probably makes Celtic look worse.

Hopefully they won't finish bottom in 2011. However if Quins finish bottom then the same questions about expansion will be asked. Hopefully a team from Yorkshire finishes bottom (Wakey, Cas or Hull) as there are to many teams from the White Rose county.
 

cymrurl

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How well? Bottom. No wins.

They were an unknown team that needed to bring in a brand new team.

Salford had to do the same, but Salfords name carries more weight and being in Lancashire it probably helps bring players in.

I was looking for them to do as well as Salford really. But yeah, being in a disadvantaged area for rugby league won't have helped.
 

WireMan

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I was looking for them to do as well as Salford really. But yeah, being in a disadvantaged area for rugby league won't have helped.

However if they manage to stick around, eventually it will be better as Salford have a lot of competion for youngsters whereas Celtic doesn't.

Celtic - A few Union teams, but the Magners league isn't that good. Cardiff FC.

Salford - Wigan, Warrington, St Helens in league. Sale in Union. Football, United, City, Stockport etc.

Hopefully in a few years there will be team to be proud of and support. :)
 

cymrurl

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However if they manage to stick around, eventually it will be better as Salford have a lot of competion for youngsters whereas Celtic doesn't.

Celtic - A few Union teams, but the Magners league isn't that good. Cardiff FC.

Salford - Wigan, Warrington, St Helens in league. Sale in Union. Football, United, City, Stockport etc.

Hopefully in a few years there will be team to be proud of and support. :)

Union has a very tight grip on South Wales but it is rather compartmentalised. Hopefully that means that the Crusaders can get some decent overlapping support.

Also looks like Dixon is gone:

Coach John Dixon is to leave the Celtic Crusaders after Sunday's final Super League match at Castleford. Dixon's future at the club has been the subject of speculation for a number of weeks with Wigan boss Brian Noble being tipped to take over. The Crusaders have struggled in their first season in Super League finishing bottom with just three wins. They also had six players deported back to their native Australia because of visa irregularities.

"I am disappointed to be leaving but I respect the chairman's right to bring change," Dixon said in a Crusaders statement.

"I would like to thank all the players, staff, and the very loyal band of supporters who I feel have all played integral roles in the successes that the club has achieved over the last four years. I acknowledge that the first year in Super League has been difficult. But I would like to wish the club every success in the future and I am pleased to state that the development structures are now in place that will help ensure the long-term sustainability of the club and rugby league in Wales."

Dixon, who will return to Australia, was appointed three years ago from the Brisbane Broncos as the first coach of the newly formed Crusaders. His goal was to secure a Super League licence for the club and succeeded by leading them through National League Two in 2007 and National League One in 2008. Crusaders chairman Leighton Samuel said: "We would like to thank John for his outstanding contribution over the last few years. He has played a major role in getting the club to Super League and put down a development structure which should see the club benefit in the years to come. He has at all times been an excellent ambassador for the club and everyone would like to wish he and his wife Helen, all the best for the future."

The Crusaders say an announcement about a new coach will be made in the near future.
 

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