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Chairman faces wrath of grassroots

ozbash

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I am a big fan of this structure and will be interested to see how it goes

I find it hard to understand this Beaver, the B/Cup was a good comp then they turned all the teams into franchises and undercut the local comps in some areas (northland is one i can immediately name ) almost to extinction.

Now we are going to return full circle to provincial comps that will be choc full of ex- B/Cup players (the ones left in NZ) .

I cant understand the change, originally B/Cup was a provincial comp that strengthened local footy.
All they had to do was build on it, not keep ripping it down and trying something different..
 

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ozbash said:
I am a big fan of this structure and will be interested to see how it goes

I find it hard to understand this Beaver, the B/Cup was a good comp then they turned all the teams into franchises and undercut the local comps in some areas (northland is one i can immediately name ) almost to extinction.

Now we are going to return full circle to provincial comps that will be choc full of ex- B/Cup players (the ones left in NZ) .

I cant understand the change, originally B/Cup was a provincial comp that strengthened local footy.
All they had to do was build on it, not keep ripping it down and trying something different..

Taranaki is another
 
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ozbash said:
I am a big fan of this structure and will be interested to see how it goes

I find it hard to understand this Beaver, the B/Cup was a good comp then they turned all the teams into franchises and undercut the local comps in some areas (northland is one i can immediately name ) almost to extinction.

Now we are going to return full circle to provincial comps that will be choc full of ex- B/Cup players (the ones left in NZ) .

I cant understand the change, originally B/Cup was a provincial comp that strengthened local footy.
All they had to do was build on it, not keep ripping it down and trying something different..

Yeah i see where you are coming from. It seems to come down to dollars in the end, and it was making a massive loss apparently. Sure it wasn't marketed well at all, but even if it had been, it is something the NZ public would probably have seen as second rate and ignored, that is the hard part for the NZRL to try and figure out, trying to raise the profile of the local game, a bloody tough ask in this current culture in NZ. I personally now regret the fact i didn't get along and support the comp until it was on it's death bed.

Basically from what i can see, the current people in the NZRL are trying to rebuild the grassroots of the game at club level, and reignite the passion between the old rivals in the club game. Like going back to the early 90s in a way. Will it work ? Who knows.

The next step after that will be the provinval comps, which will be going well back to the 80s/90s, pre Lion Red Cup. Having heard a lot about the old Canterbury v Auckland battles at the Showgrounds, it will be good to get those sort of games back again, which the BC sort of took away.

Hopefully down the track we will be strong enough to come back to a BC style comp.
 

Lossy

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Chairman faces wrath of grassroots.

Is this the same grassroots that meekly capitulate under a hail of back-room deals when the acid goes on after a bout of public belligerence? Being a cynic, I'm picking this is all angling for future leverage and/or sweeteners.
 

Skinner

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Polar Bob said:
Is this the same grassroots that meekly capitulate under a hail of back-room deals when the acid goes on after a bout of public belligerence? Being a cynic, I'm picking this is all angling for future leverage and/or sweeteners.

For "grassroots" read "Auckland" :sarcasm:
 

mean

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ozbash said:
I am a big fan of this structure and will be interested to see how it goes

I find it hard to understand this Beaver, the B/Cup was a good comp then they turned all the teams into franchises and undercut the local comps in some areas (northland is one i can immediately name ) almost to extinction.

Now we are going to return full circle to provincial comps that will be choc full of ex- B/Cup players (the ones left in NZ) .

I cant understand the change, originally B/Cup was a provincial comp that strengthened local footy.
All they had to do was build on it, not keep ripping it down and trying something different..

The reason why BC failed was the shift from clubs to franchises. The NZRL was told it would fail, but Cordtz and co. bleated on how this was the logical step to progress this competition.

The BC was too fractionalised. Give ownership back to the clubs and IMO the BC would sustain a revival. Have a 10 or 12 team competition with a promotion/relegation system and you have a competition that every club is striving to be a part of.
 

ozbash

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Give ownership back to the clubs and IMO the BC would sustain a revival. Have a 10 or 12 team competition with a promotion/relegation system and you have a competition that every club is striving to be a part of.

:clap: :clap:

sh*t, the game might even grow with ideas like that, mean..
 

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