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Clevo, and anyone else in the same boat - An Address

[furrycat]

Coach
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What I'm going to say, isn't going to be derrogatory, or somewhat childish. I'm going to fully explain the full situation with:

1. Unleashed (and the other workloads of Year 11...)
2. The 3 Man Frontier


Making patches for any game, is by no means, an easy task. I've made plenty for SWAT3 in the past, and for other games. The producers of these games however, actually created documentation and tools that would allow easier modfication of the game. I don't think the producers of Rugby League expected any of us to modify the game to the extent we have, and therefore haven't considered releasing documentation.

Because of our (Myself, Gol and Inertia's) very minor understanding of the game's files, it does make us continuously test and see what we can find out about unknown strings, which can be a very length, and annoying task. What makes things worse is if you change one thing, and don't back up the previous file beforehand, you could lose everything. I learnt that last night with the .exe file. I changed a string and my team.db changed dramatically, every team turned into the Parramatta Eels.

I'll level with you. The patch I'm making (And Inertia's team editor) we both started out making for ourselves, not for anyone else. I wanted to lengthen my fun of the game, so I started doing Unleashed. But then I thought "Why don't I just share it for others to use? Someone may be able to help and make it better than what I could." And so far, I've had some great help from people like Gol, Mario, Inertia and Alan.

You have to understand, that it takes motivation, and time to work on things like this. When I come onto the forum, and see threads and countless amounts of posts that are severely critical of myself, it really doesn't make me want to continue working on a deadline. If I was only making this for myself, I would have cut out a lot of the features, and worked at my own speed so I could play with it later. But I'm not just doing it for myself now, and neither are Gol and Inertia.

You are within your right I suppose to be anxious, or even critical. But I'm in Year 11. On Monday I have two assessment tasks due, on Tuesday I have another and have to prepare to go in the Mock Trial later that day. I'm not trying to make you feel sorry or anything. Far from it, I just want you to understand that my priorities are set in this order for a reason. My schooling, work (well its money eh? :p), my friends, and then the fun of Unleashed. Unleashed was fun, but it certainly isn't when people send email abuse, or post continously derrogatory comments.

But then again, I responded with terrible comments. I don't regret it. I'm stressed out over this shit. It makes me wonder why I'm making myself stressed out in making this thing, if all I'm going to get is grief. Nevertheless, I'm not going to stop this. I said I would, I promised... I keep my promises.

I will not be releasing a new stance on PR for Unleashed. I'm happy with the way it is.

In regards to Clevo's "request" of myself, Gol and Inertia create a "Super Patch", it is not a viable possibility at this time. We all email each other regularly and send each other things to play around with and look at, but we have our own things to do at this time. It doesn't rule out in the future of such a patch, but I cannot speak for the other two guys.

If you have any questions I will answer them. Anything that is not constructive I will not address, and will refrain to do so in the near future. I apologise if I have been derrogatory in the past, and will refrain from responding to other peoples comments that may warrant such a post.

I've posted a minor screenshot, and I'm not currently willing to post more at this present time. I'm not announcing how I will present my media barrage. Have faith... and patience i ask... Please...
 

inertia666

Juniors
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argh, your just a fake and a lazy whiner with nothing to do all day but scratch your balls and play forums sevens.

[furrycat] is really 39 and lives with his boyfriend/uncle.
 

Clevo

Juniors
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furry... thanks for taking the time to explain things...you didn;t have to.

I know what it's like being in year 11 and 12 and try to live a normal healthy lifestyle full of varied things and with hormones urging you to ring your girlfriend and stuff. It's not much different to being somewhat old enought to be your dad.

My gripe is that in all honesty you should just quitely work away till your almost done. THEN start making announcements...generate interest...then release it to others if you're inclination. At this rate I'm probably the last that have kept waiting for so long.

Basically I stopped playing NRL 2003 after 2 weeks of release because the bugs just gave me the shits and I felt it was an inferior product. Having been involved in the gaming industry as a tester for almost 10 years I can also appreciate the amount of work you have in front of you. You did commit to this project though.

EA games have done an amazing amount of work in releasing programs to make a modders life far more interesting and easier for it's flagship game SimCity 4. There are 100's of people making custom mods...mainly to fix up bugs.

I can also completely understand why Sidhe haven't done the same thing. The last thing they want is a perfect version...otherwise you and I won;t buy the next one.

As for me giving you a hard time.... I give all developers a hard time when they make promises and don;t deliver. I went easy on you. With Wolfpack and E-Tranz I got so tough they offered me jobs in Canada and Hong Kong just to shut me up. Like you they failed to see my real point.

As for the effect I have had on you (if any) that will remain to be seen... I won;t tell you what my goal is but I thank you for reaching out and trying to sort this out. I'll probably still give you a hard time. :)

I can be a lot worse. :)

Cheers
Clevo
 
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