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Cliched Paul Kent gets down on knees again for Opes

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SEEMS Chris Anderson's career at Cronulla began dying the moment it first began breathing.

Slowly and almost from the start, the Cronulla board began turning against Anderson, one by one, until eventually they had the numbers.

Now, as it heads for court, all that is left is to apportion blame and costs.

No doubt flashpoint was reached in October when chief executive Steve Rogers and recruitment officer Theo Burgess sacked Anderson's son Jarrad and Anderson responded.

The coach walked into chairman Barry Pierce's office and threw everything at him but the furniture.

Anderson told Pierce that he was sacking Burgess and also his son Greg, not only as the club's operations manager but from the upcoming Kangaroo tour as well.

Then he walked into Rogers' office and for 30 minutes again the conversation went one way.

Then he called Burgess. That lasted 45 minutes, and the sum of Burgess's comments wouldn't have fit in a thimble.

When Greg Pierce heard from his father he knew what he had to do.

He called Anderson - where the conversation was said to be quite polite.

In sacking Jarrad Anderson the Sharks had finally provoked Anderson into a reaction strong enough to enable them to issue their third breach notice.

The Sharks were certain that they were now able to sack him, which occurred when Anderson returned from the Kangaroo tour a fortnight ago.

How it got to that stage is still being examined, and with Anderson set to launch legal action early next year everybody has clammed up, making it difficult to determine.

What is clear is that almost as soon as he took over at the Sharks, Anderson got himself offside with his new board.

A trial in Auckland, the team bus halfway between its hotel and the ground, and Anderson ordered the bus to pull over and then ordered the board members off and on to the side of the road.

He told them to get a cab.

That it was raining only added to their mood.

Still honeymooning with him, though, some tried to see it as simply his way and forgave him. What irked other board members was that Anderson's "team only" stance was already corrupted - a non-official that Anderson regularly uses as a masseuse in Auckland was already on the bus, and stayed.

As the season rolled on the board stuck solid with Anderson even though grumblings had begun in the backroom. They were still among the minority, though, and publicly the support remained on issues such as the sacking of Preston Campbell and his willingness to clean out the club and its culture.

But the boat was taking on water and slowly, over time, one board member turned against him, then another, then another.

When the Sharks went through the first eight rounds of last season without a win, Anderson was issued a breach notice.

While there were public comments that the club was in a better position than the previous year, privately board members were wondering, "How?"

After all, they figured, the club didn't have the same players as the previous year, when they dug their way out of a hole to eventually reach the elimination final.

NOT only had the club lost experienced players such as Campbell, Chris McKenna, Andrew Pierce and Paul Mellor, but by round six Anderson had also dropped Nick Graham and Dean Treister, with the pair to be shortly released.

Anderson's second breach notice came when he abused referee Rod Lawrence after a match at Shark Park.

The NRL fined Anderson $15,000. Not only that, but NRL boss David Gallop phoned Pierce and Rogers to say that such behaviour would not be tolerated.

And swirling around this the team continued to perform poorly.

Slaughtered by injuries - the club had more than any NRL club - Anderson's aggressive player turnover was cutting deep. The Sharks simply didn't have the depth.

It festered and then erupted after the Sharks lost to Penrith in round 17, as fans in the auditorium booed Anderson and the coach left the stage. Senior players were left to step in and calm it down.

Speculation about Anderson's future escalated as the numbers continued to swing against him. Finally he told the board to "sack me or back me" following a loss in Canberra.

They backed him, but the voting was close.

The small doubts among the board when they were sacked from the Auckland bus trip some 17 months earlier had now manifested itself into significant numbers, and they were rallying.

By the time the season was over Anderson had lost the support of the club.

Simply, they had been down too many dry gulches together.

As the club began looking to next season club officials began worrying that Anderson was going to rank Jarrad in the club's top 25 players.

Rogers and Burgess stepped in, sacking the youngster. They believed he didn't warrant a top-25 contract, and thought the early decision would give him a better opportunity to find a start elsewhere. It wasn't lost that it might also save what could be an inevitable and destructive fight with the coach on season's eve.

But Anderson's supporters believe it was premeditated and malicious, designed to provoke him to sack him.

For evidence they offer simply the case of Anderson's departure from Melbourne, again when he was in dispute with management.

Then they had sacked Ben Anderson while Anderson was away.

He walked into their office.
 
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I am sick to death of reading the misrepresentation that the Sharks sacked Jarrad Anderson.

They didnt upgrade his contract and baulked at his ultimatum.

The fact that ugly JA was laughed out of the office does not equal a sacking. And it doesnt equal provocation of Daddy.
 

cheese

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*yawn*

How many times can these scum sucking journo's flog this same dead horse?! ......

They need some new angles .....A back page spread on "does pierce wear a rug" would spice things up..........Its gotta be a rug. it's either that, or his dad was a lego man.
 

gunnamatta bay

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Jarrad Anderson is a real trump for the club. Here we have a father who installs his son in the 1st team. If I were the club I would be bringing expert, impartial expert evidence to tell the court what an ordinary player he really is. Despite that paternal influence prevails and sonny boy is perservered with. Everyone knows the real story except the coach. The club declines to renew Jarrad's contract and the coach drags the club through the mud. The club should also subpoena the Melbourne storm ceo to recount his experience.

I used to think Anderson was getting a raw deal from some sections of the club until his son came onto the scene. Up till then I never knew he even existed.

My one question: Who else wanted Jarrad to play for them in the 2003 season?
 

blacktip-reefy

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Gunna Matter said:
Jarrad Anderson is a real trump for the club. Here we have a father who installs his son in the 1st team. If I were the club I would be bringing expert, impartial expert evidence to tell the court what an ordinary player he really is. Despite that paternal influence prevails and sonny boy is perservered with. Everyone knows the real story except the coach. The club declines to renew Jarrad's contract and the coach drags the club through the mud. The club should also subpoena the Melbourne storm ceo to recount his experience.

I used to think Anderson was getting a raw deal from some sections of the club until his son came onto the scene. Up till then I never knew he even existed.

My one question: Who else wanted Jarrad to play for them in the 2003 season?

Who needs an expert witness.
A friggin soccer player would be sufficient to tell anyone that JA was Park quality. Just!
 

Frenzy

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Gunna Matter said:
Jarrad Anderson is a real trump for the club. Here we have a father who installs his son in the 1st team. If I were the club I would be bringing expert, impartial expert evidence to tell the court what an ordinary player he really is. Despite that paternal influence prevails and sonny boy is perservered with. Everyone knows the real story except the coach. The club declines to renew Jarrad's contract and the coach drags the club through the mud. The club should also subpoena the Melbourne storm ceo to recount his experience.

I used to think Anderson was getting a raw deal from some sections of the club until his son came onto the scene. Up till then I never knew he even existed.

My one question: Who else wanted Jarrad to play for them in the 2003 season?

Jarrad Anderson is a trump for the plaintiff as well

Your expert testimony idea would only land the Sharks in hotter water. Jarrad was simply a young bloke playing First Division with another club when he was offered a trial with the Sharks. Albeit by his dad, but it was Sludge that finally signed the contract and offered him the job.

Just as they got rid of him, they employed him.

Who can they get that can be classed as impartial? Who can they get who can say he wouldn't of kicked on after more experience. Who can they get who can say "yes, he is an ordinary player and should of been sacked" yet not have it refuted by having the plaintiffs say well we have our own experts and we challenge the credentials of the following players?

Bringing Jarrad in on their side would be suicide for the Sharks. He would most surely be a hostile witness.

A smart plaintiff team of lawyers will just accuse the Sharks of hiring Jarrad to be later used as a tool to get rid of the father. It's not out of the question that this could be true seeing as though it now seems moves have been afoot to de Andersonise the club since early 2002.

Disclaimer: Not a pro Ando post. More an anti idiot post against the Sharks board.
 

gunnamatta bay

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Bringing Jarrad in on their side would be suicide for the Sharks. He would most surely be a hostile witness.

Where did I say he should be called as a witness?

If Anderson's mob want to call him then great.

There are any number of persons with the credentials acceptable as "experts in football talent." Just as there are expert witnesses , such as Doctors, who's testimony is heard in our courts daily. Who they would get is the legal teams job.

The gist of my post is that Anderson was wrong to carry on the way he did over his son's situation. An impartial coach, a reasonable person would not have reacted the way he did.

More an anti idiot post against the Sharks board.

Please explain? R U calling me an idiot?
 

wittyfan

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If they show some video of Jarrad's awful efforts for Cronulla this year in court, that should neutralise any sort of testimony Jarrad has. :lol:
 

Genius Freak

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'Slaughtered by injuries'????????

WTF?

OK Franze was bad, but apart from that injuries were a non factor. By the time Noddy and Stevo started missing games, we were running second last by a long way and our season was over. Signing Darren Lockyer and Andrew Johns wouldn't have salvaged a top 8 spot by that stage.
 

Frenzy

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blacktip-reefy said:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

No I think he's referring to his posts' direction. At the board.

It's taken me the last couple of hours to stop laughing at Gunna's question.

He asked it even after he included my quote which is pretty damn clear.

Gunna's don't take things to heart, a discussion is about alternative views.

For the record I for one am over Ando. I wanted him to stay because I am worried about litigation, but I'm Frenzy, people who know me know I don't change much, and he's ancient history to me now.

I am on neither side though my dislike of the board might make me seem to be still pro Ando.

I ain't. I'm anti board and that doesn't include Sludge BTW.

Who knows what the definition of an expert is?

An expert is the bloke who comes from the next town and has a different opinion to the towns.

When you deal with a footballers ability you are dealing with a subjective matter. Everyone will have a different view. When you call doctors they are being asked far more objective questions which deal in fact more than opinion.

IMO still it would be unwise for the club to bring anything about JA into the case. Why? Because it gives the plaintiff the right to cross examine on the subject.

As to your question, "Where did I say he should be called as a witness?"

You didn't, but commonsense says he will be called if he is discussed in evidence.
 

sharknows

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Seems that anderson might have a pretty strong case. Whether we talk about using Jarryd as evidence?? or not doesn't really matter. This was the only the catalyst used by the club to bring the matter to a head. To bring a breach notice on CA because he abused some officials is a joke. How many people are abused in the corporate world on a daily basis without the matter going to court. We are talking about grown men and footballers here. This could all have been negotiated with CA by Steve rogers and the Board rather than trying to get him out with cloke and dagger tactics....it is going to backfire on the club or should I say the board. I fear for our future.
 

Genius Freak

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OK, but the rules distinctly outlaw the abusing of refs by coaches and players. Whether or not this rule is right or wrong, it is in place and Ando violated that, thus causing the club to be fined $15,000. How many people would recieve much more than a breach notice if they cost their employer $15,000 in the real world? Ando should have kept his mouth shut like the rules state, and left abusing the officials to me and other fans.
 

sharknows

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Yes he shouldn't have abused the ref - that is one warning - but that wasn't what I was talking about..the other stuff is bulldust... they just don't have a strong enough case to win, can't you see that?
 
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