Crazy 9s idea

[POPEYE]

Here's a great idea. f**k the whole thing off. f**k off the All Stars game while we're at it too.

In fact, f**k off State of Origin too. Unless it can grow beyond the two state format it's a relic of the past.

We should be seeing the best players in the regular season, week in, week out. Teams shouldn't be gifted the opportunity to play teams with half their players missing through representative duties. Fans shouldn't have to put up with three rounds of only half the teams playing.

Yes why not, if there are to be comps/games outside of NRL make them ancilliary . . . no NRL contracted players allowed to participate

 

[mistertaylor]

More on the Nines Series to come...

NRL Nines Series


A 3-round series played during the first 3 weekends in March, involving all 20 NRL teams.


NRL Nines squads comprise maximum of 8 players from their 'top 25'. Opportunity for fringe first graders, train-and-triallists and recently retired NRL players to show their wares. Squads can be changed ahead of each round, so that in theory, 24 of their top 25 could play Nines over the 3 rounds.


Format is much the same as the current Auckland Nines, however with the additional pool games (resulting from the increase to 5 teams per pool), games could also be played on Saturday night.


Teams accrue points for games won during the pool stage, plus bonus points if they progress to the finals.


Prizemoney for each round of the Nines would remain same as for the Auckland Nines. Additional prizemoney awarded for the overall Nines Series Champion (that being the team that accrues the most points over the entire series).


Take a leaf from V8 Supercars and open it up for smaller centres (eg Mackay, Coffs Harbour, Bathurst, Sunshine Coast) to bid for hosting rights to 1 round of the Nines Series. This would leave the larger centres (eg Townsville, Gosford, Newcastle, Melbourne, Auckland, Wellington, Perth) to bid for one of the remaining 2 rounds each year.


To illustrate, here's a sample Nines Series schedule for the first 3 years:

Year 1 - (Auckland, Bathurst, Melbourne)

Year 2 - (Newcastle, Mackay, Perth)

Year 3 - (Townsville, Coffs Harbour, Wellington)


Note that I've excluded Brisbane and Sydney from hosting any rounds of the Nines Series; my reasoning is that this would enable State of Origin to revert to its original schedule of each state hosting 2 Origin games each year on a rotational basis.


-- mistertaylor


Post-script: the NRL season would commence in late March/early April and run for 10 weeks before a three week mid-season break. During this time, State of Origin would be played as a standalone series over 3 consecutive Saturdays (if it's good enough for Bledisloe Cup, why not Origin?). Smaller test nations could also play mid-season Tests during this time. NRL season would resume in early July with remaining 9 rounds followed by finals series in September.

 

[myrrh ken]

NRL Nines Series


A 3-round series played during the first 3 weekends in March, involving all 20 NRL teams.

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NRL Nines squads comprise maximum of 8 players from their 'top 25'. Opportunity for fringe first graders, train-and-triallists and recently retired NRL players to show their wares. Squads can be changed ahead of each round, so that in theory, 24 of their top 25 could play Nines over the 3 rounds.


Format is much the same as the current Auckland Nines, however with the additional pool games (resulting from the increase to 5 teams per pool), games could also be played on Saturday night.


Teams accrue points for games won during the pool stage, plus bonus points if they progress to the finals.


Prizemoney for each round of the Nines would remain same as for the Auckland Nines. Additional prizemoney awarded for the overall Nines Series Champion (that being the team that accrues the most points over the entire series).


Take a leaf from V8 Supercars and open it up for smaller centres (eg Mackay, Coffs Harbour, Bathurst, Sunshine Coast) to bid for hosting rights to 1 round of the Nines Series. This would leave the larger centres (eg Townsville, Gosford, Newcastle, Melbourne, Auckland, Wellington, Perth) to bid for one of the remaining 2 rounds each year.


To illustrate, here's a sample Nines Series schedule for the first 3 years:

Year 1 - (Auckland, Bathurst, Melbourne)

Year 2 - (Newcastle, Mackay, Perth)

Year 3 - (Townsville, Coffs Harbour, Wellington)


Note that I've excluded Brisbane and Sydney from hosting any rounds of the Nines Series; my reasoning is that this would enable State of Origin to revert to its original schedule of each state hosting 2 Origin games each year on a rotational basis.


-- mistertaylor


Post-script: the NRL season would commence in late March/early April and run for 10 weeks before a three week mid-season break. During this time, State of Origin would be played as a standalone series over 3 consecutive Saturdays (if it's good enough for Bledisloe Cup, why not Origin?). Smaller test nations could also play mid-season Tests during this time. NRL season would resume in early July with remaining 9 rounds followed by finals series in September.

Now just to make 4 new nrl teams

 

[mistertaylor]

Now just to make 4 new nrl teams

Refer to my earlier post in thread where I suggested that NRL expand to 20 teams and play a 19 round season, to free up extra weeks for Nines series and standalone Origin series.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

So the plan is to add 4 more teams so we can expand a nines comp.

Sounds reasonable.

 

[myrrh ken]

Should be ready by 2018

 

[DiegoNT]

Refer to my earlier post in thread where I suggested that NRL expand to 20 teams and play a 19 round season, to free up extra weeks for Nines series and standalone Origin series.

You would be taking away something that makes money (regular season rounds) for something that doesn't (9s).

 

[myrrh ken]

Time to start a new alt i guess.

 

[POPEYE]

So the plan is to add 4 more teams so we can expand a nines comp.

Sounds reasonable.

Especially when each team plays each of the others once only for the Shield

 

[mistertaylor]

Presently, 16 teams play 24 games in a season. 24x8= 192 games.

In a 20 team comp with 19 rounds - 10 matches per round = 190 games.

So the question is, would the additional revenue from 4 expansion teams + 3 week Nines Series cancel out any perceived revenue reduction from 2 less premiership games?

 

[AlwaysGreen]

No the question is where are we going to get a 100 more players to make up the 4 new teams and how in all that is holy will the money from a nines comp pay for these 4 new teams?

 

[DiegoNT]

Presently, 16 teams play 24 games in a season. 24x8= 192 games.

In a 20 team comp with 19 rounds - 10 matches per round = 190 games.

So the question is, would the additional revenue from 4 expansion teams + 3 week Nines Series cancel out any perceived revenue reduction from 2 less premiership games?

2 problems. Both have to do with money.
You have 4 extra teams, but with roughly the same amount of games. So the TV deal Will be roughly the same, but now has to be split 20 ways instead of 16. So right there each current nrl club is set to lose money on this arrangement.
2nd problem is that each club plays less games. That restricts there earning power in other ways. Less home games to sell, less coverage for sponsors ( losing 6x80minutes of as time), less money on memberships, less opportunity to sell games to other markets ( parra to nt, Souths to Perth). You'd also have to invest a lot more money into the 9s as it's not really catching on at the moment.
It would also have other flow on effects. With 20 teams and smaller salary cap ( caused by clubs earning less for reasons above) means talent would be spread out more thinly amongst clubs and clubs would have less depths, and with a less rounds (meaning each win will be vital), clubs would be less likely to send any 1st graders to a 9s tournament

 

[myrrh ken]

Also need to sink $ into setting up club infrastructure, grounds, payroll, admin.

But go on

 

[mistertaylor]

All good points, one can only dream though right?

M

 

[Perth Red]

$350 mill income a year and rising rapidly and we can't afford 4 new teams eventually? Pleeeez