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yakstorm

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Kids packages I believe finished just under 5K (the ones that were sold earlier, you know the buy for your entire team ones), and those tickets will be produced and mailed out on Monday, so already we have pretty much achieved the ARL's goal with a week in hand.

The NRL site has finally started to do some pushing, and the news papers are starting to talk about the test, we have a chance of a good crowd!
 

strong_latte

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Copa said:
$60 is dirt cheap for the quality of athlete you will be watching.

IMO..the cheap seats @ $20 is as good as it gets...

Don't be a tight ar$e.

I'm no tight arse, but I'm interested in WASTING money either... I don't know about you, but I go to footy matches to see a CONTEST, $60 is a high price to pay to watch a drubbing!

Seriously, if they put more effort into organising international league, like shortening both the NRL and SL seasons to 22 weeks each, then you could have a legitimate international series at the end of the season!

Calixte said:
Without wanting to drone on about the same subject over and over again, this was always going to happen.

How Sydney still considers itself the centre of the rugby league universe I have no idea.

Brisbane laps it for enthusiasm for rugby league across the board - club, State and international level.

Club

- the support for the Broncos (by no means the only popular team in Brisbane), highest crowds in the NRL (I know one team only etc...)
- the support for the Cowboys (42,000 first game v Brisbane this year; GF ratings in Brisbane '05)

Thats great, but did you realise that there are 10 teams in NSW, 9 of which are in Sydney, and 2 teams in Qld, and only 1 in Brisbane? take the aggregate Sydney crowds for each week and compare them to the Bronco's and the come and tell me that again.

Calixte said:
State

- the support for QLD is unmatched

International

- better crowds for internationals (eg. Anzac Test this year)
- better ratings for internationals (per capita)

Sydney needs to pull its proverbial out...

At Origin time NSW get 80,000 every year... how does qld manage to top that exactly with their 50k stadium? As for the Anzac test, well I'll give you that, and if they can get that every year, then they should keep em there.
 

strong_latte

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Copa said:
If your club team was gonna deliver a thrashing to a rival.... would you be interested?

Thats the thing isn't it though. If you already know that it's gonna be a thrashing, then they're not much of a rival are they? And thats the bloody problem! The kangaroo's don't have any rivals anymore because they smash every other team!
 

strong_latte

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Jeffles said:
Let's not confuse the issues.

The game was taken to TS because it is cheaper to hire than the SFS. Same reason Souths have moved. It had nothing to do with expecting an 80,000 crowd.

Also, I think the ARL are guilty of a bit of underestimating. If they said "we're aiming for 40,000" and they drew 35,000 it would be called a failure. If they said "we aim for 25,000" and they drew 35,000 it would be a success.

Now for a history lesson. Not since 1963 has there been a crowd of over 35,000 for a Test in Sydney between AU and NZ. So if we do get 35,000 it will be the biggest crowd for over 40 years. AND PEOPLE STILL WANT TO CALL IT A FAILURE!!!

With already 20,000 seats sold excluding members and kids packages I think that 25,000 plus is a safe bet.

The problem is that you have union that gets capacity at Telstra year in year out... the same way NSW do at Origin time... The difference being that in both instances the opposition is highly credible and you don't know the outcome before you go into the match.
 

***MH***

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who thinks news corp would do a better job promoting the game internationally than the arl board?
 

strong_latte

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***MH*** said:
who thinks news corp would do a better job promoting the game internationally than the arl board?

Obviously Newscorp... But thats a given for an international media conglomerate that spans across almost every continent on the panet! I personally think that the ARL should hand over all levels of the game to the NRL though... The NRL are just generally better at promoting the game.
 

legend

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This game should have been played at Newcastle in front of a full house of 26,000 people. Would be a great atmosphere and a better look than a 75% empty stadium that does nothing but make us the laughing stock of the football codes in Australia.
 

strong_latte

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legend said:
This game should have been played at Newcastle in front of a full house of 26,000 people. Would be a great atmosphere and a better look than a 75% empty stadium that does nothing but make us the laughing stock of the football codes in Australia.

Agreed! Newcastle is a great RL community, they'd pack the place out easily! Especially with Joey in there!
 

Willow

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legend said:
This game should have been played at Newcastle in front of a full house of 26,000 people. Would be a great atmosphere and a better look than a 75% empty stadium that does nothing but make us the laughing stock of the football codes in Australia.
Then you risk people being turned away and whingers talking about lack of foresight and telegraph poles. ;-)

The SFS looks like it would have been the better venue for this. They were never going to fill Telstra.
 

strong_latte

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Willow said:
Then you risk people being turned away and whingers talking about lack of foresight and telegraph poles. ;-)

The SFS looks like it would have been the better venue for this. They were never going to fill Telstra.

Exactly! They'll fill Telstra possibly in 5 years if the TN has been made into a bigger event and both GB and NZ have won it in battles that displayed a level of intensity and football quality that the Rugby League public consider to be equal or better than SOO.
If that happens, and I sincerley hope it does, then we can look at holding the Final at the big stadiums in the UK or telstra and expect a full house!
 

legend

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I think someone said earlier in the piece that the SFS was too expensive to hire out, hence the move to Telstra.

Newcastle is not Kogarah mate, they've actually spent some money on doing the place up and everyone gets a seat, not just the players wives and mistresses. ;-)
 

Calixte

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You're kidding if you think NSW is more passionate about Origin than QLD.

As for crowds, 105,000 tickets (ie. both games at Lang Park in 2005) were sold before the series even began. The Telstra game wasn't sold out until in the week leading up to the match in Sydney.

Of course I know there are other teams (ie. more than 1) in Sydney - that's not the point. What ever happened to the 50,000 crowds at Sydney club games?

And the same size crowds for internationals too?
 

strong_latte

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Calixte said:
You're kidding if you think NSW is more passionate about Origin than QLD.

As for crowds, 105,000 tickets (ie. both games at Lang Park in 2005) were sold before the series even began. The Telstra game wasn't sold out until in the week leading up to the match in Sydney.

I know all Qlder's think they own origin, but you don't... We care just as much as you lot.



Calixte said:
And the same size crowds for internationals too?

There still there. and the Tigers V St George would have got way more than that if it were played at Telstra...
 

Willow

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legend said:
I think someone said earlier in the piece that the SFS was too expensive to hire out, hence the move to Telstra.
To what extent is the SFS too expensive?
Has politics and short term gain has come into play..? Who would have thought it? ;-)
So is Telstra is a cost cutting exercise?

I thought the suburban venue debate was about what looks good for the game... 25,000-30,000 people at an 80,000 capacity venue is hardly a great advertisement.

If it was played at Newcastle, people would have been turned away... and there'd be a different thread deriding the League for not planning it right. At the SFS, 25,000-30,000 would have looked pretty good. Perhaps it wasn't practical to do so....
legend said:
Newcastle is not Kogarah mate, they've actually spent some money on doing the place up and everyone gets a seat, not just the players wives and mistresses. ;-)
You'll be happy to learn that we have named that telegraph pole, 'Legend's Pole' in honour of your good self. People now pay to get in behind the pole just to have their vision obscured and enjoy the 'legend experience.' The money earned from this will go towards a new banana chair lounge in the proposed south-eastern grandstand.

However, you may be dismayed to know that the new light towers went up this week at Kogarah, dwarfing the old poles. There are plans afoot to have the old poles removed before the next season starts.

On your behalf, I have started a new campaign aimed at giving a heritage listing to 'legends pole', entitled 'Save The Old Poles' (S.T.O.P.), it is hoped that the ruthless hand of progress will be thwarted once and for all.
 

legend

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About bloody time I say. I'm not returning to Kogarah, Sizzler or the Taj until the pole is removed.

Agreed on the crowd issue. 25,000 will look embarassing in an 80k venue. Not sure on the expense of the SFS, I was merely relying on what a previous member mentioned about costs associated with the SFS but in a perfect world, 30k at Aussie would have looked pretty good on tv.

I was there in 2002 when the Aussies played the poms and it was a superb atmosphere although the result was a shocker or the international game.
 

Iafeta

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lockyno1 said:
Not with the Super Test on the same day!

I disagree. Go to the Super Test, go out and have a fwe drinks something to eat at Entertainment Central or whatever its called now, go to Aussie Stadium for test match. All day entertainment within couple of hundred metres walking distance.
 

Mr. Fahrenheit

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Supertest is cricket, and TBH, thsi is a sportslovers dream day out, or in, I am probably goin to the league on sat, and am gion to the cricket on sunday, perfect weekend
 
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