Cutting out the cat.

[Perth Red]

They are. Its the biggest joke of a penalty in the game. Most of the time players are turning their bodies into the defence as they go to the ground to try to get an offload off.

There are, of course, the rare legitimate crusher. Those should be penalised harshly.

As for the thread, I dont mind them having a look if someone stays down. Maybe they need to go for HIA. The biggest problem as alluded to earlier in the thread is that refs will look for a pinky finger level contact on the head and penalise it.

It is ridiculous, there was one this weekend where the player backed into the tackle and his head was in the defenders armpit as they went down and they called it a crusher after he lay on the ground clutching his neck. Farcical.

 

[BunniesMan]

I have wanted this in soccer and now I also think there is a need for it in rugby league: SUSPENSIONS. Where it is clear to anyone with common sense that an injury is being faked, suspend them. Start off with a week and then double it every time the same bloke does it again. I guarantee the problem would rapidly cease to exist.

 

[myrrh ken]

Soccer is one step ahead. You can get a yellow card for simulation

 

[coolumsharkie]

Depends. Is it a free interchange for five minutes or do they play a man down?

I would suggest that for now it's just down to the individual player, knowing that it's 5 minutes off might deter a player. So I'd start with that.

 

[coolumsharkie]

Get rid of the bunker and you get rid of feigning injury from crusher tackles as well as defenders diving to try and get a penalty for obstruction.

That is the obvious one but there's no way thats going to happen for now.

The bunker is a blight on the game, was a good idea but as you can see now, it's more and more scrutinized in general plays, off the ball plays, Dr's advice let alone agonising replays of every step in tries. I watch a Fox Mini that goes for 20 minutes and half of it is refs deciding on a play, ruck indiscretion, high shot etc etc etc. I'm starting to think people actually like this?

 

[coolumsharkie]

They are. Its the biggest joke of a penalty in the game. Most of the time players are turning their bodies into the defence as they go to the ground to try to get an offload off.

There are, of course, the rare legitimate crusher. Those should be penalised harshly.

As for the thread, I dont mind them having a look if someone stays down. Maybe they need to go for HIA. The biggest problem as alluded to earlier in the thread is that refs will look for a pinky finger level contact on the head and penalise it.

100%. Adding to your post is the reactionary penalty the ref or bunker through scrutiny of replay is based on a players actions of injury. Much like the HIA do to determine a class 1 head knock, again it's being scrutinised, and poorly. "It could be so it is"

I'm starting to think that maybe @Canard has relo's on the job.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Diving is not all that new. It has been around for some years now.

Didn't Cronulla use it as a tactic in the mid-90s when Raper played for them?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Saying crusher tackles can be avoided is a moment in itself. Sure, some can, but the vast majority are a complete accident and just part of tackling someone who themselves is trying to twist to find their front.

There are horrible crushers that should result in suspension etc, majority are accidental.

Typical NRL stamp out crack down that takes things way too far. Like the shoulder charge.

Wasn't the crusher tackle brought into the game by the Storm to control the speed of the ruck?

I think it's going to be difficult to eliminate all contact with the head when the focus these days is on holding up the upper body of the ball carrier to impede the offload and slow down the ruck.

 

[LineBall]

That is the obvious one but there's no way thats going to happen for now.

The bunker is a blight on the game, was a good idea but as you can see now, it's more and more scrutinized in general plays, off the ball plays, Dr's advice let alone agonising replays of every step in tries. I watch a Fox Mini that goes for 20 minutes and half of it is refs deciding on a play, ruck indiscretion, high shot etc etc etc. I'm starting to think people actually like this?

The Bunker is a blight on the game. Same with captain's challenge - where a lot of the challenges are cynical rather than to pick up a genuine blunder.

Oh, and the six again - get rid of it. Make the ref award the penalty quickly at the mark, and let the attacking team have a quick tap - even if they have their own players in front of them in an offside position.

 

[Perth Red]

Go back to what the bunker should always have been, the, act of scoring a try only. If 3 officials cant see everything else we need new officials!

 

[Canard]

Get rid of something because it's not 100% foolproof is peak LU stupidity.

How will the Bunker determine if high shot cause injury or not (think about it you numbnuts)

 

[Matiunz]

Why is it the Lodge incident getting so much scrutiny when it’s been happening for a few years?

 

[TheDMC]

Well the officials could do their job and call it when it happens thus negating the need for the player laying down for the vr to call it?

Yep, simple solution. If they miss it then too bad, play on (but retrospectively can go on report if reportable offence). Use the bunker for try scoring reviews and captain's challenges.

 

[TheDMC]

Why is it the Lodge incident getting so much scrutiny when it’s been happening for a few years?

Because it is Matt Lodge and the Warriors, perhaps.

 

[Matiunz]

Because it is Matt Lodge and the Warriors, perhaps.

The media just highlighting the haves and have nots with their hypocrisy

 

[Apey]

Why is it the Lodge incident getting so much scrutiny when it’s been happening for a few years?

Because it wasn't even worthy of a penalty and the bunker official got dropped for it.