Do we really need two captains?

[The EELiminator]

i know we have done it a few times but is it really necessary to have two captains? other teams seem to go ok with just one

 

[Twizzle]

Only when one is The Special One

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

When you don't really have a stand out captain, you have to make do with two half captains.

 

[hindy111]

Could you go with 4 captains HJ?

Personaly Watmough would be my captain.Mannah doesnt seem good at the role.Norman and Sandow be next pick.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Didn't Souffs have 5 captains one year?

 

[Parra]

Leadership groups work. I didn't like the idea, but the proof has been in the results - and not just in the NRL or even sport. It is effective in any organisation.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Leaders lead. The captain talks to the refs.

 

[Parra]

If it's nothing more than on-field referee liaison then just nominate anyone. Our biggest impediment in that regard has left us anyway.

Best way to respect refs is to not talk to them at all. Shut and and show some respect - only speak when the ref asks a direct question. It's a novel concept in the NRL.

 

[Twizzle]

Leaders lead. The captain talks to the refs.

Can captains lead too ?

 

[Kornstar]

If your captain is a non 80 minute player someone needs to be the captain when he's not on the field, so whether it is official or not, you automatically have co captains. Might as well name that person at some point.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Teams use to have Vice Captains. A novel idea.

 

[lingard]

Can captains lead too ?

Definitely not. Only leaders lead. If you had a captain who could lead, then he would be a leader - and you'd have to make someone else captain. Just arkse anyone who's been in the Army. They'd know.

 

[lingard]

One question: if you had a team full of leaders, who would they lead? Each other?

 

[bartman]

^ Hopefully themselves... that's often the biggest challenge with teams of champions (e.g. rep teams), getting them to take responsibility for making the combinations.

As for whether we need two captains, if we insist on having a sub-50 minute player (e.g. Mannah or any prop) as a captain, then we'll need another. Otherwise we could get away with one captain expected to play 60-80mins (e.g. Peats), and one or two vice captains (including Mannah, and maybe a back like Hoppa) to cover referee liaison when Peats is off the field.

Off-field leadership group can expand this group of three out to five, with the inclusion of an experienced hard head liek Watmough, and another back... not sure who this year, so maybe they'll opt for Joe Paulo :lol:.

 

[Parra Pride]

Billy Rogers (C).

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Can captains lead too ?

What do you reckon?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Definitely not. Only leaders lead. If you had a captain who could lead, then he would be a leader - and you'd have to make someone else captain. Just arkse anyone who's been in the Army. They'd know.

I'll tell you what I do know - there's often (though not always) a difference between leaders and commanders/managers.

 

[Twizzle]

What do you reckon?

what do you reckon ?

 

[lingard]

I'll tell you what I do know - there's often (though not always) a difference between leaders and commanders/managers.

Yes, but what about captains?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's just a label, isn't it? It means 'the bloke who is allowed to talk to the refs'. Plus it's symbolic for the media, fans and sponsors. Best to have a well spoken cleanskin with a good reputation. Hopefully he also has the ability to argue well whilst remaining respectful.

Having all of these qualities probably means he's seen as a leader as well, though not necessarily the leader.