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Nutz

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I'd like to keep him, but not if it meant we had to miss TayMay.

However, it seems so strange that we don't seem to encourage or develop a lot of GK in the club and haven't done so for a long time.
Adam has a big body and should develop into a good lock. If I were him I'd be watching Yeo's playbook and copy his style of play. Needs to be better and more aggressive in defense though.
 

Tigerm

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They got Lobb but he can't break out of reserve grade.
Jared Haywood isn't a goal kicker. I don't think he's even kicked a field goal. As you say Tm, we don't seem to be developing goal kickers.
You would think that a ½ would have kicked at least 1 field goal by now :)
The only other GK we had, who were playing FG was Api & TDS, I don't like the idea of relying on Api to do all the work.
Not sure about Masi?
But if AD goes, we may be f**ked.
 

Tigerm

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Adam has a big body and should develop into a good lock. If I were him I'd be watching Yeo's playbook and copy his style of play. Needs to be better and more aggressive in defense though.
Agree, but TBF that was his first game as the starting lock, which I thought he went OK.
 

Nutz

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The only other GK we had, who were playing FG was Api & TDS, I don't like the idea of relying on Api to do all the work.
Not sure about Masi?
But if AD goes, we may be f**ked.
GK is not easy. It requires years of practice and therefore is a specialist position.
As you say, they need to be developed.
 

Tigerm

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He'll get found out pretty quickly.
Maybe, maybe not. Got to resign him first, before we worry about that.
I think his days bludging in the centres are over. Hahaha
The drags are apparently interested in him as a ball playing lock?
 

Nutz

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Maybe, maybe not. Got to resign him first, before we worry about that.
I think his days bludging in the centres are over. Hahaha
The drags are apparently interested in him as a lock?
I don't really care. I'm sure we'll stuff it up.
I want the Hunt debacle sorted out first. We need a bookend asap. Our fwd rotation has to have an impact forward.
The lack thereof is one of the reasons our halves have struggled over the years because we don't have a big unit drawing the edges in.
In the red zone, we just run laterally or change direction for 5 tackles. When we do have the right attacking shape the D has too much cover.
Those tries to Skelton is what we need and it was on the back of direct running game fron Latu but our halves job is made harder for the reasons I've mentioned.
 

Tiger Ted

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The only other GK we had, who were playing FG was Api & TDS, I don't like the idea of relying on Api to do all the work.
Not sure about Masi?
But if AD goes, we may be f**ked.
Makasini was a goal kicker in sg ball.Dont know how good he is but don’t think I’d want to lumber him with the responsibility so early in his career albeit if he’s good enough to play NRL next season then im
sure the kid can be our GK
 

Tiger Ted

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He’s not worth 1 cent over 400k.I like AD nice kid & family but if he’s making our starting team we r not playing finals footy.Coz the insidious grub is managing him I would stick to my guns re the 350k offer coz the grub Moses can fk off & he can take Bula with him.This club can ill afford to continue to be dictated to by the lowlife oxygen thief.
 

Tigerm

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He has won the last 2 wins for us, what's a win worth?
Playing as ball playing lock who Gk's (and kicks clutch FG's Haha), gives us a shit load of option and does solve a few positional issues. Plus his versatility.
Twal can go back to the FR, we have 2 x centres lined up.
$400-500k/season, $100k is play money in the NRL these days.
 

Tiger Ted

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He has won the last 2 wins for us, what's a win worth?
Playing as ball playing lock who Gk's (and kicks clutch FG's Haha), gives us a shit load of option and does solve a few positional issues. Plus his versatility.
Twal can go back to the FR, we have 2 x centres lined up.
$400-500k/season, $100k is play money in the NRL these days.
Ur deadset kidding.2 fluky z grade wins in which we were out scored re tries against a depleted rorters & the team running last & u want to pay overs to a sluggish defense challenged has-been who is managed by a grub who sabotaged our season.
 

Nutz

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I can see signs of a good future with Latu Fainu straightening the attack.
He's very talented and has only played a handful of games.
He'll get better and so should Luai.
If only we can build on this and keep our best players for next year.
We've already got a decent new forward coming in KPP so that's a boost.
I refuse to believe that between now and next year that we won't sign another good player....it will happen.
It's all about retaining our best players and a top up of good player/s.
Even if Benji stays on, he should be better with a full year of coaching NRL under his belt.
 

Tiger05

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Ur deadset kidding.2 fluky z grade wins in which we were out scored re tries against a depleted rorters & the team running last & u want to pay overs to a sluggish defense challenged has-been who is managed by a grub who sabotaged our season.

Here is the thing with AD. He has an amazing ability to show some form and then have that form completely disappear.

He isn't good enough to play in the halves for us. He is too slow for the centres. He has done well playing at lock but it's like one game or so.

I hope he stays but we shouldn't be offering him good dollars.
 

Tigerm

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Ur deadset kidding.2 fluky z grade wins in which we were out scored re tries against a depleted rorters & the team running last & u want to pay overs to a sluggish defense challenged has-been who is managed by a grub who sabotaged our season.
Hence why we need a GK.
The fact is, we would have lost both those games without him.
And he has been near our best on the park and his defence has been sound, wtf are you watching.
You're the one who mentioned $400k, not me, but $100k extra (if that's what it takes) to have a player who can do that is well worth it, imo.
The only issue, is his recent medical history. But they should know what going on there.
 
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Tiger Ted

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Hence why we need a GK.
The fact is, we would have lost both those games without him.
And he has been near our best on the park and his defence has been sound, wtf are you watching.
You're the one who mentioned $400k, not me, but $100k extra (if that's what it takes) to have a player who can do that is well worth it, imo.
The only issue, is his recent medical history. But they should know what going on there.
I don’t base my opinion on 2 games we were very lucky to win against weak opposition.During the duration of his tenure with us he has been substd.Even if he was consistently playing well enough to offer him 400k+ u wouldn’t coz of his destabilising saboteur manager.Fact is he is leaving regardless of offer by us coz The grub moses will be leveraging our offer to get maximum elsewhere.At the end of the day what over-rides a players form or ability in negotiations is how could anyone think it’s wise after what the grub has done to this club to continue employing players managed by him.
Btw I must specify that I’d only consider offering him a max of 400k if he was managed by a human & not the grub.
 

Tiger Ted

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Here is the thing with AD. He has an amazing ability to show some form and then have that form completely disappear.

He isn't good enough to play in the halves for us. He is too slow for the centres. He has done well playing at lock but it's like one game or so.

I hope he stays but we shouldn't be offering him good dollars.
This is the thing.He is substandard wherever he plays & he has played 5 mins at lock against shit opposition who snatched a loss from the jaws of victory.More importantly after seeing the turmoil Isaac the merkin Moses caused at concord this yr AD decides to get managed by him.If that isn’t an up yours to us then what is.
 

Tigerm

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I don’t base my opinion on 2 games we were very lucky to win against weak opposition.During the duration of his tenure with us he has been substd.Even if he was consistently playing well enough to offer him 400k+ u wouldn’t coz of his destabilising saboteur manager.Fact is he is leaving regardless of offer by us coz The grub moses will be leveraging our offer to get maximum elsewhere.At the end of the day what over-rides a players form or ability in negotiations is how could anyone think it’s wise after what the grub has done to this club to continue employing players managed by him.
Btw I must specify that I’d only consider offering him a max of 400k if he was managed by a human & not the grub.
No one is basing it on 2 games, he's played over 100 games and in many positions, he ain't a rookie, so his versatility factor is a premium.
TBH, 3 ball playing guys on the team, sounds pretty good.
But more importantly, we cannot go into a season without a recognised GK, that is suicide.
Api can kick, but what happens when he's not on the field?
As for Moses, agree it was a crazy decision by him, but if he signs, then I think he's professional enough to just play the game, and not get into the theatrics like Galvin did.
If we were lucky to win those two games, we would have lost them, if he wasn't playing.
Give him a decent offer (a hundred grand or so, is chickweed in the NRL these days), if he goes well there isn't much we can do, but go to market and find a GK urgently.
 

Tiger05

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This is the thing.He is substandard wherever he plays & he has played 5 mins at lock against shit opposition who snatched a loss from the jaws of victory.More importantly after seeing the turmoil Isaac the merkin Moses caused at concord this yr AD decides to get managed by him.If that isn’t an up yours to us then what is.

Despite him playing well this season and massively exceeding my expectations I'd only keep him if we get him for a decent contract. The guy continually overrates his ability.
 

WA Tiger

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I think AD will end up with $500.. He’s not just a goal kicker..he’s: a more than effective back up to the halves (his strength is he doesn’t panic ..Leo’s never panic. Go check, and he’s got the tools) ….and back up to every back line position if needed which we will… and 13 another string to his bow with the advantage again of his ball playing .. if Luai says he was good coz he straightened the play up then 13 is definately another string to his bow.. Benji said he tackled ok so that’s good enough for me. If his body matched his footy brain he’d be in the very top tier. We can settle for a very very handy player. We arnt too good for that. $450- 500 or he will be gone
 
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