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Doust Retires at end of 2018 season

Coffs dragon

Bench
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Wayne Bennett always seems to find a positive from a negative. He rarely bags his players and always seems to protect & shelter them from media criticism.
This seems no different with his support of former CEO/Doust whom fed him for 3 successful years.
On the other hand, Bennett also showed great loyalty & support to Ivan Henjack and Steve Price whom both proved to be errors of judgement.
 
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Given it's lack of a strong St. George junior nursery base, there's simply no way SGI can afford to dispose of the Illawarra component.

Dragons = history.
Steelers = playing strength.

It's the way things have been since 1999.
I am not advocating getting rid of the Illawarra component at all.
I recognize the importance of the Illawarra district as a football nursery.
I just don't see the need to include "Illawarra" in the club name and logo.
St. George will only ever be "St. George" for me at least and what we have been served up is a dilution of our heritage and a blatant appeasement of the Illawarra faction in the JV.
How is it possible that arguably, the greatest club in rugby league history, ends up with 2 names?
How is it possible that we are one of only 2 clubs to become a JV?
Easts, Souths (came back from oblivion without merging), Parra and all other clubs other than Balmain, have nurseries which they draw from without having any obligation to change their identity.
In my view the STI idea has been a failure.
 

RedVDragon

Juniors
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Go away Bennett ruin the donkeys. Other than the 2010 grand final win yes thank you, Doust has run this club into the ground. Debt ridden with no vision and strategy. When a CEO is only interested in Governance which Doust always refers to, does he even know the meaning of governance, then you have a leader with no imagination, no leadership ability with no strategic vision to take the club and business to the next level. Now POQ.
 

blacksafake

First Grade
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If WIN are to takeover I certainly hope the club is not then “relocated” to Wollongong full time with Kogarah given the arse. Although the gong is easier for me to get to the Red V brand is the selling point& Kogarah must remain as a home ground too.
I’m very suspicious of Gordens agenda especially with his son being a member of a board that has failed miserably to take the club forward.
 

getsmarty

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NRL NEWS

Bennett: Doust 'one of the best'
Author
Joel Gould
Timestamp
Fri 2 Feb 2018, 05:17 PM


Wayne Bennett wouldn't have signed as coach of the St George Illawarra Dragons in 2009 if he'd caught sight of the club's then underwhelming training facility, but what happened next is one reason why he's hailed outgoing club CEO Peter Doust as one of the best administrators he's worked alongside.

"I loved working with Peter because he was decisive and everything he told me he would do, he did," Bennett told NRL.com.

"And if he couldn't do it to the ultimate perfection he gave it as much as he could. I remember when I first went down there I told him that I wouldn't have signed with the club if I'd seen their training facility.

"He promised me that he'd do something about that and fix it up, which he did to his credit.

"We got a better training facility. It wasn't world class but it was good and workable."

In the wake of Doust's announcement that he will stand down at the end of 2018 after 18 years at the helm of the joint venture, Bennett has outlined why his partnership with the Dragons boss prospered during his three-year stint.

Doust has been a regular target of angry supporters when the club has failed to live up to expectations, but Bennett said the CEO had secured better facilities for the club, been at the helm for a drought-breaking premiership in 2010 and played more of a key role in keeping and securing stars than was widely known.

"I don't think he ever got enough credit for what he did at Kogarah and Wollongong with regards to improving those grounds," Bennett said.

"He got a lot of government money and did a great job.

"Kogarah is a magnificent football ground and always has been, but in my opinion among those suburban grounds in Sydney it is number one."

bennettw-pressa-170519700.jpg

Broncos coach Wayne Bennett. :copyright:Scott Davis/NRL Photos
Bennett told NRL.com of the agreement he struck with Doust about how things were going to work, with neither party interfering in the other's jurisdiction.

Doust was master of his administration domain in Kogarah, with Bennett to run his own race and the football team down the road in Wollongong.

"I had a great relationship with him. He is one of the best I've worked with, and I don't think we had a bad word between each other," Bennett said.

"I got a bit of background stuff not long after I took the job that he liked to come down and put his fingerprints around the place, but that was the last thing I wanted.

"So I told him when I got the job 'here's the deal. You just stay at Kogarah. I'll look after Wollongong... and I'll ring you every Monday.' He had a chuckle, and that's how it panned out. He was great."

He got far too much criticism and never enough praise for what he did as far as I am concerned.

Wayne Bennett
Bennett chuckled and said Doust "never had to come down once" to training, but then added they did have a rendezvous "four or five times" at a favourite seafood joint in the Steel City.

"It was a great restaurant," he quipped.

Premiership mission accomplished, Bennett left the Dragons in 2012 and did not go back to join Doust after his three-year stint at the Newcastle Knights. The lure of the Broncos brought him home just when it appeared the Dragons CEO was on the cusp of another stunning coup.

Looking back, Bennett conceded Doust did his level best to prevent him leaving the Dragons in the first place.

The Rabbitohs, Broncos and Knights were among the clubs in the hunt with the Knights ultimately prevailing, but Bennett told NRL.com that Doust had put the best offer on the table of the lot.

"It was a great three years I had there at the Dragons and of all the offers I had when I left, Peter Doust made me the best offer to stay there," he said.

"He got criticised for not keeping me but he should never have got criticised for that, because it was purely my decision.

"We'd done such a good job there and it was such a good time there that I just thought 'these things usually end in tears. I just want to get out now while I'm in front'. I had other offers to go other places, but my point is that Peter made me the best offer to keep me there and did everything he possibly could."

Bennett pointed to Doust's rich red and white heritage as being a driver in his life. Doust's father Laurie was a legendary director, selector and recruiter who brought Johnny Raper, Billy Smith and Graeme Langlands to the club.

Peter Doust brought Bennett to the club, and the only title since 1979 followed and a burden was lifted.

That's why Bennett was delighted for Doust "and guys like [former football manager] Craig Young" after the 2010 premiership because they had "carried that weight of responsibility on their shoulders and in their hearts".

2018 NRL Fantasy is now open

"He got far too much criticism and never enough praise for what he did as far as I am concerned, and he did what no-one else had done in 31 years when he was chief executive for the 2010 premiership," Bennett said.

"Peter worked really hard to get and keep key players for me. No-one appreciates how hard that it is to do, and Mark Gasnier is a classic example of that.

"He left because of situations there he wasn't happy with, but he came back because of guys like Peter Doust."


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2018/02/03/bennett-doust-one-of-the-best/
 

to_ddeath

Coach
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Bennett is just simply being diplomatic and respectful.
Typical that a few grubs come out to blame him for our post-premiership free fall.
Had naught to do with it.
Thank f@ck Doust is leaving & hopefully this news is a sign of further changes & not a false dawn
 
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I’m happy with the merge and our joint names.
We’re a big club, covering a big area, with a big junior base, complemented by a big fan base, not to mention a big knob coaching us.

Let’s face it....... We’re Big!
And Big mistake after Big mistake ever since we merged.
1 premiership in 20 years and sporadic appearances in the finals during that time...
Lousy management with a no balls, attitude towards making hard decisions that would have advanced the club.
Instead, we have the Illawarra tail wagging the dog.
We are a big club with a huge history that has been severely compromised by this merger of convenience.
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

First Grade
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And Big mistake after Big mistake ever since we merged.
1 premiership in 20 years and sporadic appearances in the finals during that time...
Lousy management with a no balls, attitude towards making hard decisions that would have advanced the club.
Instead, we have the Illawarra tail wagging the dog.
We are a big club with a huge history that has been severely compromised by this merger of convenience.

I agree DP that the club has made some big mistakes.
I put that down to total mismanagement, which could happen whether we were merged or a separate identity.

My view that l'm happy with merging with Illawarra is based on the region has always been a nursery for juniors, our colours were the same, many great Illawarra players played for the big red V.

I trust being a combined identity has given us strength as a whole when the nrl considers who stays and who goes, if teams are further culled.

My only concern is that if there is an 'Illawarra takeover' as such, that we don't lose our identity at Kogarah and as a whole community for the area.
 

SBD82

Coach
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I am not advocating getting rid of the Illawarra component at all.
I recognize the importance of the Illawarra district as a football nursery.
I just don't see the need to include "Illawarra" in the club name and logo.
St. George will only ever be "St. George" for me at least and what we have been served up is a dilution of our heritage and a blatant appeasement of the Illawarra faction in the JV.
How is it possible that arguably, the greatest club in rugby league history, ends up with 2 names?
How is it possible that we are one of only 2 clubs to become a JV?
Easts, Souths (came back from oblivion without merging), Parra and all other clubs other than Balmain, have nurseries which they draw from without having any obligation to change their identity.
In my view the STI idea has been a failure.
Oh FFS.

We are literally heading into our 20th year as a JV.

How is this shit still constantly popping up?

If you think that St George could be a stand alone club in its current condition in the current comp, then you are absolutely delusional.
 
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Oh FFS.

We are literally heading into our 20th year as a JV.

How is this shit still constantly popping up?

If you think that St George could be a stand alone club in its current condition in the current comp, then you are absolutely delusional.
Too late now.
The option to take a different option was overlooked 20 years ago.
It keeps popping up because of results and the factional management of the JV.
Maybe I am "delusional" but can you honestly and objectively say that the merger has been successful?
 

SBD82

Coach
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Too late now.
The option to take a different option was overlooked 20 years ago.
It keeps popping up because of results and the factional management of the JV.
Maybe I am "delusional" but can you honestly and objectively say that the merger has been successful?
Yes. It has been successful.

Could it have been better? Sure. But that comes from both sides.
 

dragonssamy61

First Grade
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If WIN are to takeover I certainly hope the club is not then “relocated” to Wollongong full time with Kogarah given the arse. Although the gong is easier for me to get to the Red V brand is the selling point& Kogarah must remain as a home ground too.
I’m very suspicious of Gordens agenda especially with his son being a member of a board that has failed miserably to take the club forward.

Blacksafake
They want it to be only five home game that is not the gong and one is anzac day so only 3 or 4 at kogarah.
So we must fight for 50/50.
The best way to do that is to turn up in big numbers to all kogarah games this year.
 
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epDragon62

First Grade
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As a St George fan I am not concerned with the JV as I think our leadership was in decline with or without the JV.

I truly hope that a pivotal change will happen with a WIN buyout that has the JV progress positively and also bolsters the history of St George.
 
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NRL NEWS

Bennett: Doust 'one of the best'
Author
Joel Gould
Timestamp
Fri 2 Feb 2018, 05:17 PM


Wayne Bennett wouldn't have signed as coach of the St George Illawarra Dragons in 2009 if he'd caught sight of the club's then underwhelming training facility, but what happened next is one reason why he's hailed outgoing club CEO Peter Doust as one of the best administrators he's worked alongside.

"I loved working with Peter because he was decisive and everything he told me he would do, he did," Bennett told NRL.com.

"And if he couldn't do it to the ultimate perfection he gave it as much as he could. I remember when I first went down there I told him that I wouldn't have signed with the club if I'd seen their training facility.

"He promised me that he'd do something about that and fix it up, which he did to his credit.

"We got a better training facility. It wasn't world class but it was good and workable."

In the wake of Doust's announcement that he will stand down at the end of 2018 after 18 years at the helm of the joint venture, Bennett has outlined why his partnership with the Dragons boss prospered during his three-year stint.

Doust has been a regular target of angry supporters when the club has failed to live up to expectations, but Bennett said the CEO had secured better facilities for the club, been at the helm for a drought-breaking premiership in 2010 and played more of a key role in keeping and securing stars than was widely known.

"I don't think he ever got enough credit for what he did at Kogarah and Wollongong with regards to improving those grounds," Bennett said.

"He got a lot of government money and did a great job.

"Kogarah is a magnificent football ground and always has been, but in my opinion among those suburban grounds in Sydney it is number one."

bennettw-pressa-170519700.jpg

Broncos coach Wayne Bennett. :copyright:Scott Davis/NRL Photos
Bennett told NRL.com of the agreement he struck with Doust about how things were going to work, with neither party interfering in the other's jurisdiction.

Doust was master of his administration domain in Kogarah, with Bennett to run his own race and the football team down the road in Wollongong.

"I had a great relationship with him. He is one of the best I've worked with, and I don't think we had a bad word between each other," Bennett said.

"I got a bit of background stuff not long after I took the job that he liked to come down and put his fingerprints around the place, but that was the last thing I wanted.

"So I told him when I got the job 'here's the deal. You just stay at Kogarah. I'll look after Wollongong... and I'll ring you every Monday.' He had a chuckle, and that's how it panned out. He was great."

He got far too much criticism and never enough praise for what he did as far as I am concerned.

Wayne Bennett
Bennett chuckled and said Doust "never had to come down once" to training, but then added they did have a rendezvous "four or five times" at a favourite seafood joint in the Steel City.

"It was a great restaurant," he quipped.

Premiership mission accomplished, Bennett left the Dragons in 2012 and did not go back to join Doust after his three-year stint at the Newcastle Knights. The lure of the Broncos brought him home just when it appeared the Dragons CEO was on the cusp of another stunning coup.

Looking back, Bennett conceded Doust did his level best to prevent him leaving the Dragons in the first place.

The Rabbitohs, Broncos and Knights were among the clubs in the hunt with the Knights ultimately prevailing, but Bennett told NRL.com that Doust had put the best offer on the table of the lot.

"It was a great three years I had there at the Dragons and of all the offers I had when I left, Peter Doust made me the best offer to stay there," he said.

"He got criticised for not keeping me but he should never have got criticised for that, because it was purely my decision.

"We'd done such a good job there and it was such a good time there that I just thought 'these things usually end in tears. I just want to get out now while I'm in front'. I had other offers to go other places, but my point is that Peter made me the best offer to keep me there and did everything he possibly could."

Bennett pointed to Doust's rich red and white heritage as being a driver in his life. Doust's father Laurie was a legendary director, selector and recruiter who brought Johnny Raper, Billy Smith and Graeme Langlands to the club.

Peter Doust brought Bennett to the club, and the only title since 1979 followed and a burden was lifted.

That's why Bennett was delighted for Doust "and guys like [former football manager] Craig Young" after the 2010 premiership because they had "carried that weight of responsibility on their shoulders and in their hearts".

2018 NRL Fantasy is now open

"He got far too much criticism and never enough praise for what he did as far as I am concerned, and he did what no-one else had done in 31 years when he was chief executive for the 2010 premiership," Bennett said.

"Peter worked really hard to get and keep key players for me. No-one appreciates how hard that it is to do, and Mark Gasnier is a classic example of that.

"He left because of situations there he wasn't happy with, but he came back because of guys like Peter Doust."


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2018/02/03/bennett-doust-one-of-the-best/
I am happy to take Bennet's tribute at face value.
My question is what happened since 2012?
Considering Doust had such success with a high profile coach, why didn't he pursue the same formula after Bennet.
The last 6 years and the appointment of Price and then McGregor is a total mystery to me.
Whether Doust was responsible and whether the criticism was unfair, is still an open question.
 

getsmarty

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I am happy to take Bennet's tribute at face value.
My question is what happened since 2012?
Considering Doust had such success with a high profile coach, why didn't he pursue the same formula after Bennet.
The last 6 years and the appointment of Price and then McGregor is a total mystery to me.
Whether Doust was responsible and whether the criticism was unfair, is still an open question.

Correct Dennis...Board should have gone for another experienced coach after Bennett.. That being said after Price failed why didn't they go after an experienced coach to replace Price ? There where rumours we were chasing Bellamy and Bennett during this period. Why settle for the current coach after you fail to land the big fish ? From what others have stated, Doust was responsible for McGregors extension last year. The contract was on the table waiting to see how we would start the season.

QUESTION...Why didn't they wait until the end of the Season ? What was the hurry..its not as if other clubs wanted him...For this reason alone, (if the alleged suggestions are correct re the McGregor extension) Doust has failed the club.

P.S It must be remembered that Bennett practically fell into our lap Cowboys was meant to be his destination.
Also Bennett wanted a 5 year deal and Doust offered 3 ???? Again a massive error in my opinion.
 
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SaintPauli

Juniors
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I am not advocating getting rid of the Illawarra component at all.
I recognize the importance of the Illawarra district as a football nursery.
I just don't see the need to include "Illawarra" in the club name and logo.
St. George will only ever be "St. George" for me at least and what we have been served up is a dilution of our heritage and a blatant appeasement of the Illawarra faction in the JV.
How is it possible that arguably, the greatest club in rugby league history, ends up with 2 names?
How is it possible that we are one of only 2 clubs to become a JV?
Easts, Souths (came back from oblivion without merging), Parra and all other clubs other than Balmain, have nurseries which they draw from without having any obligation to change their identity.
In my view the STI idea has been a failure.
My biggest issue Dennis is that the merger has irradaticated all St George Dragons club history with elimination from modern day records. Gone is our 15 grand finals, minor premiership records, top point scorer, record NRL scoreline against the bullgrubs etc and now we are recorded as having 1 premiership !

We seriously need to lobby the NRL to set the record straight. We have "merged" not started a new club! Therefore the record should be 16 grand finals. The St George dragons have not disappeared but Illawarra simply added. Ironically Illawarra was a nursery to St George prior there Inclusion.

It Peeves me to the core when opposing teams tosser supporters say we have only 1 grand final on our records.

We must fix this via the NRL. Until we fix this I will never be completely satisfied with the merger.
 
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