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Drive for perfection is killing league

JoeyJoJo83

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The hard-headed focus on completion rates and structured play by coaches right across the NRL is killing rugby league as a spectacle. When the most talented players in the game are taking a tackle or putting in a long kick instead of backing their instinct to step, swerve or throw a risky pass, then we are all missing out on one of the key ingredients that go into making rugby league the incredible spectacle that it is. I've walked away from watching some games this year because they have been too structured, lacked any imagination and were just plain boring. There has to be a balance between keeping the error rates down and freeing the stars to do what they do best.

It's easy to take pot shots from the outside at a club like Parramatta, but only the players and coaching staff can find the answers to turn around a horror start to the season. Eels coach Steve Kearney is copping it from all quarters and with seven wins from 32 games at the helm it's not hard to see why. Fans are suffering the most, having welcomed halfback saviour Chris Sandow to the club only to be left scratching their heads and questioning his real worth. Sandow spent last week in the NSW Cup and this week returns on the bench for Parramatta's clash with the Bulldogs.

The problem was always going to be the marriage of Kearney's error-free safety-first Melbourne Storm style of coaching and the instinctive playing style of both Sandow and the other Eels superstar Jarryd Hayne. Hayne was quoted as saying that the reason the Eels were able to pile on 30 points in 13 minutes against West Tigers was that they were playing without fear of making a mistake. He also suggested that they could only continue to play that way if the coach allowed it. Parramatta will never get the best out of Hayne and Sandow if they continue to feel restricted.

This week the Eels take on Des Hasler's Bulldogs who have had a tough couple of rounds – putting up a fight against Melbourne Storm, before narrowly losing to premiers Manly. There is always a danger of players taking the two points for granted when they come up against a struggling side after a tough run, but Hasler is too wise and experienced to let that happen.

Bulldogs fullback Ben Barba has continued his electrifying form and is one player that never seems to be harnessed by the expectations of his coach. He continues to score tries from long-range and his effort against the Sea Eagles last week was just incredible. It was refreshing to read that he values stopping a try higher than scoring one and is continuing to work on his defence. That's a great attitude for a young bloke to have and he thoroughly deserves a bench spot for Queensland in this year's State of Origin.

New South Wales could certainly do with a player or two like Barba in their squad, considering all the players who look like being unavailable. It was tragic for the Blues and Newcastle to lose Kurt Gidley for the season after dislocating his shoulder against Penrith. Poor Gids was in terrible pain for a couple of hours as the doctors battled to get his arm back into the shoulder socket. The problem was he has so much muscle mass around the joint that it was an almost impossible job. I think the Knights will really struggle to make a run at the finals without Gidley, and the Blues will really miss his versatility as well.

The dodgy Achilles tendon of Knights' hooker Danny Buderus proved all the so-called experts wrong when it flared up again against the Panthers. Buderus will miss the first State of Origin with the injury and the Blues hooking role will once again come down to a battle between Robbie Farah and Michael Ennis. New South Wales coach Ricky Stuart really has a big job ahead of him this year trying to stop the Queensland machine from notching a seventh successive series victory. He has been building up to this for some time and the current spate of injuries to key players is not going to help the cause. When Stuart does finally assemble the most talented New South Welshmen available let's hope he doesn't tell the stars to forget their natural flair in order to play it safe.

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JoeyJoJo83

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Why is it that everyone can see that the "structure" that Kearney is trying to implement will not work, while we have the players like Sandow, Hayne and Roberts in key positions, yet he still persists with it.

But hey what does a Johns know, his only captained his club, state and national sides to victory and is the halfback of the century.
 

spiderdan

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hagan lost my support as a coach when he claimed that to win games you need to complete sets and to do that you need to play boring predictable one out football.

i wasn't a believer of it then and i'm not now but it does have it's place in the playing structure of a team at times.

like with most things, there needs to be a balance. and the main style of play should revolve around the playing strengths of individual players (no point telling a guy that has the ability to offload in traffic to tuck the ball under his arm and just run 10m, although nothing wrong to teach a player to be a bit more selective when doing so) there also needs to be at least a plan b (i thought the lack of a plan b is in part what cost us those games we were in a position to win last year).

that said, saying something has structure i don't think means playing boring football but moreso having players knowing their roles in the team and when to do what they are meant to do. the coaches that push the one out running i think have no idea and claiming that strategy is effective shows the coach has no innovation or ability to think outside the box.
 

Eels Dude

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that said, saying something has structure i don't think means playing boring football but moreso having players knowing their roles in the team and when to do what they are meant to do.
the coaches that push the one out running i think have no idea and claiming that strategy is effective shows the coach has no innovation or ability to think outside the box.

Very good point and that could be one of our biggest problems. Fui is a prop one week, wide running back rower the next. Hindy is a defensive lock one week, now he's playing in the front row. I don't think Casey Maguire has any idea what role he is supposed to be playing in the side and neither do any of his team-mates.
 

JoeyJoJo83

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like with most things, there needs to be a balance. and the main style of play should revolve around the playing strengths of individual players.

And here lies the problem, every Tom Dick and Harry associated with the game have said this very same thing. The sooner Kearney changes the style of play to match the players he has, the sooner we start winning games. It's pretty simple really.
 

Poupou Escobar

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lol

Last year Hayne joined Thurston and Marshall as one of the game's elite playmakers.

This year, in the four and a bit games he has played he is in career best form - he is averaging nearly 2 line breaks per game. That's more than in 2009.

Roberts is also playing his best football this year. Sandow is the only one that is struggling, and it's because he's lost the confidence to run the ball.

But Hayne and Roberts have been very dangerous. Roberts made some big mistakes on the weekend but he still made a break from nothing and put Blair away for a try.
 

born an eel

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was that the break he dropped the ball cold.... yeah lets count that a successful play.

he may have set up one try, still owed us 2 more to break even for the day.

if this is career best form for roberts, how many missed tackles and dropped ball does he have when going bad?

So if 2009 was solely because of career best for for hayne as you keep telling us, why aren't we winning with him playing so good now.
 

True EEL

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lol

Last year Hayne joined Thurston and Marshall as one of the game's elite playmakers.

This year, in the four and a bit games he has played he is in career best form - he is averaging nearly 2 line breaks per game. That's more than in 2009.

Roberts is also playing his best football this year. Sandow is the only one that is struggling, and it's because he's lost the confidence to run the ball.

But Hayne and Roberts have been very dangerous. Roberts made some big mistakes on the weekend but he still made a break from nothing and put Blair away for a try.

Jesus H Christ, you are sickeningly one-eyed sometimes......:crazy:

Roberts made some big mistakes, like its just one of those things....pfft, he made some diabolical mistakes and I could not decide if his offensive mistakes were actually worse than his defensive mistakes, because both were atrocious and not NRL standard. Let's also not forget his other mistake-ridden last game the last time we played v Cronulla???

Roberts did NOT put Blair away for his try, God some people make me laugh. McGuire (I think it was on the inside) gave good early ball to Roberts in some space as a link man in a blatant overlap and for once Roberts managed to catch and pass without dropping it inexplicably....ffs, call the game as it was not as you want to see it :roll: The break Roberts made - from running the ball (strength) - ended in comical fashion for him by hogging it (weakness) lol
 

True EEL

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was that the break he dropped the ball cold.... yeah lets count that a successful play.

he may have set up one try, still owed us 2 more to break even for the day.

if this is career best form for roberts, how many missed tackles and dropped ball does he have when going bad?

So if 2009 was solely because of career best for for hayne as you keep telling us, why aren't we winning with him playing so good now.

Great post.
 

Suitman

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Roberts did NOT put Blair away for his try, McGuire (I think it was on the inside) gave good early ball to Roberts in some space as a link man in a blatant overlap and for once Roberts managed to catch and pass without dropping it inexplicably....ffs, call the game as it was not as you want to see it

:lol:

You're an idiot. But we already knew that.

Suity
 

True EEL

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:lol:

You're an idiot. But we already knew that.

Suity

come on Suity, prove me wrong then? it was one of the few times on the day and in recent weeks Roberts didn't either drop the ball, knock it off his knee, throw it 10+ m forward, or throw it over the sideline ha ha ha :lol:

he was a link and managed to do one simple task effectively for the day, good on him....:roll:

and i call it as i see it Suity, if you don't like that, then STFU and stop quoting or replying to my posts ok....fff!!!!
 

Suitman

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come on Suity, prove me wrong then? it was one of the few times on the day and in recent weeks Roberts didn't either drop the ball, knock it off his knee, throw it 10+ m forward, or throw it over the sideline ha ha ha :lol:

he was a link and managed to do one simple task effectively for the day, good on him....:roll:

and i call it as i see it Suity, if you don't like that, then STFU and stop quoting or replying to my posts ok....fff!!!!


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Bow_rider

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come on Suity, prove me wrong then? it was one of the few times on the day and in recent weeks Roberts didn't either drop the ball, knock it off his knee, throw it 10+ m forward, or throw it over the sideline ha ha ha :lol:

he was a link and managed to do one simple task effectively for the day, good on him....:roll:

and i call it as i see it Suity, if you don't like that, then STFU and stop quoting or replying to my posts ok....fff!!!!

IMO it is great to see someone analyze Robert's play properly. He was a mistake maker at the Bulldogs and that is why he was in NSW cup. Sure he has made a couple of breaks this year but his weakness's far out weight that. If he has been our best this year then god help us for the next 15 or so rounds.
 

True EEL

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IMO it is great to see someone analyze Robert's play properly. He was a mistake maker at the Bulldogs and that is why he was in NSW cup. Sure he has made a couple of breaks this year but his weakness's far out weight that. If he has been our best this year then god help us for the next 15 or so rounds.

Cheers Bow Rider, glad you can see it too
 

Parra Pride

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Jesus H Christ, you are sickeningly one-eyed sometimes......:crazy:

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#Idiot
 

True EEL

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Parra Pride....maybe i should just post your own pic back at you ha ha, but wait....nah waste of time

#Moron.....
 

Someone

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Whoever mentioned players not knowing thier roles in the team is spot on.

On a couple of occassions we havent even had dummy halfs behind our play the balls. Keating/Mcguire interchange is one issue, the fowards is another.

As soon as the players learn thier roles in the team we will start winning, Sandow being benched might actually help as he might be injected against weak fowards and gain confidence by running the ball and before to long we will be winning.

I think the players will start to take their season into their own hands soon and stop using kearneys structure as a excuse. Hayne isnt going to get whipped by Kearney if he chips and chases out of nowhere/ run it from within own half etc and i think they might have learnt that last sunday.
 
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