Eels in the media

[84 Baby]

But that's one of the main arguments against the NFSD policy in any case, and Reynolds has not been to court either. By waiting, are they suggesting that they may suspend him regardless of the outcome?

They may suspend him afterwards, but if they have viewed footage and they haven’t gone NFSD now then it would seem they have an opinion on the alleged offence’s severity

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Wasn’t it upgraded, because he allegedly touched her, to an offence with 10 years possible (given allegedlies prison time would seem very harsh)?

I hadn't heard that.

 

[84 Baby]

I hadn't heard that.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...r/news-story/809cd3b9938e88cc9d531599e1e9e1cc

It got upgraded, and I thought I read somewhere that it has a max imprisonment term of at least 10 years or more

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...r/news-story/809cd3b9938e88cc9d531599e1e9e1cc

It got upgraded, and I thought I read somewhere that it has a max imprisonment term of at least 10 years or more

Cheers. Although I thought that 10 years had to be the minimum mandatory sentence for NFSD. Could be wrong.

 

[84 Baby]

Cheers. Although I thought that 10 years had to be the minimum mandatory sentence for NFSD. Could be wrong.

10 years minimum would be a hefty offence

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

10 years minimum would be a hefty offence

Does De Belin's charge have a 10 year minimum?

 

[chiefy1]

Does De Belin's charge have a 10 year minimum?

It's not the minimum that's taken into account, it's the maximum. Jack Debelin's case has a greater than 10 year maximum sentence hence his mandatory suspension under NRL rules.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

11 years, according to this. But maybe not the minimum. But also, Todd can do whatever the f**k he wants...


The New Rule
Rule 22A (New Rule) was introduced into the NRL Rules on 11 March 2019 by the ARLC and NRL and provides that:

• players charged with a criminal offence carrying a penalty of at least 11 years will be automatically stood down from playing in the NRL competition;
• the suspension will not require any finding of fault by the player and there is no right of appeal;
• players are still able to train with their team and are entitled to be paid their full remuneration under their contracts; and
• the NRL’s CEO can use his discretion to stand down players charged with less serious criminal offences, particularly where the offence involves women and children.

https://www.hopgoodganim.com.au/pag...‘reasonably-necessary’-says-the-federal-court

 

[84 Baby]

11 years, according to this. But maybe not the minimum. But also, Todd can do whatever the f**k he wants...


The New Rule
Rule 22A (New Rule) was introduced into the NRL Rules on 11 March 2019 by the ARLC and NRL and provides that:

• players charged with a criminal offence carrying a penalty of at least 11 years will be automatically stood down from playing in the NRL competition;
• the suspension will not require any finding of fault by the player and there is no right of appeal;
• players are still able to train with their team and are entitled to be paid their full remuneration under their contracts; and
• the NRL’s CEO can use his discretion to stand down players charged with less serious criminal offences, particularly where the offence involves women and children.

https://www.hopgoodganim.com.au/pag...‘reasonably-necessary’-says-the-federal-court

That does read like it should be a minimum sentence of 11 years but minimum sentencing of that length (assumedly of a single offence) is going to be a real serious offence. Off the top of my head drunken coward punch fatal assault carries like an 8 year minimum?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sure but before I commit a crime I give just as much consideration to the maximum sentence.

 

[Bazal]

Sure but before I commit a crime I give just as much consideration to the maximum sentence.

I only commit victimless crimes.

 

[84 Baby]

Sure but before I commit a crime I give just as much consideration to the maximum sentence.

That consideration could be the difference between receiving the maximum or minimum

 

[84 Baby]

I only commit victimless crimes.

Like robbing hookers?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

That does read like it should be a minimum sentence of 11 years but minimum sentencing of that length (assumedly of a single offence) is going to be a real serious offence. Off the top of my head drunken coward punch fatal assault carries like an 8 year minimum?

Yeah, I think it's just badly worded and the maximum sentence must be "at least" 11 years.

 

[hineyrulz]

I only commit victimless crimes.

Champing people isn’t a victimless Crime Baz.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I only commit victimless crimes.

Like necromancy?

 

[Noise]

The Fijian law has max sentence for indecent assault at 5 years

http://www.vertic.org/media/National Legislation/Fiji/FJ_Penal_Code.pdf

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

The Fijian law has max sentence for indecent assault at 5 years

http://www.vertic.org/media/National Legislation/Fiji/FJ_Penal_Code.pdf

Yeah so point four: Todd can do whatever the f**k he wants. Be interesting to see what happens if the court case gets adjourned until well into the season. All the NRL had to do is say that they respect the rule of law and the presumption of innocence. People would have shut up about de Belin soon enough. But now they've opened a can of worms cos Todd and Beattie wanted some brownie points.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The Fijian law has max sentence for indecent assault at 5 years

http://www.vertic.org/media/National Legislation/Fiji/FJ_Penal_Code.pdf

I believe it's ten years for witchcraft

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I believe it's ten years for witchcraft

That's a good point. This alleged offence was in a different country with markedly different penalties. More worms.