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Eliminate risk and it will be game over

supercharger

Juniors
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I feel we are losing something from the game of rugby league. It's not about the punching or the shoulder charge. No one goes out onto the field to intentionally do these things. It just happens. There's no point me trying to explain it, so I won't.

No, I'm referring more to what the professional game is meant to be. Everyone keeps telling us what they don't want in the game. Well, what do you want the game to look like? I'm not so sure our leaders can answer this question.

I'm 55 years old. I've seen a lot of life. I've played, coached and watched a lot of football. I have three kids. I'm not a violent individual.

My dad was my role model. He didn't mind a beer and a gamble; he taught me both. He didn't like fighting but taught me how to defend myself anyway. He also taught me to catch, kick, pass, tackle, bat, bowl, sink a putt, catch a fish, mow the lawn and drive a car. He still clips me behind the ear if I swear in front of my mother.

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My heroes growing up were Graeme Langlands and John Raper. But they were never my role models. I've never needed another role model in my life while I had my dad.

Dad took me to my first game of football. I was hooked immediately. The colours, the smell, the speed, the brutality, the atmosphere; to hear the crowd rise to a crescendo as a try was being scored. The noise ran right through me. It was overwhelming. I wanted to be a footballer.

I remember watching John Sattler playing through a grand final with a broken jaw - a story glorified in the media for decades since. For some reason I wanted to know if I could do something like that; I can't explain why I had that feeling.

I played with John Farragher the day he broke his neck in a scrum collapse. He never walked again. What a great and inspirational man. Every day I see him working at Panthers. I can't imagine what goes through his mind. It was a terrible day. But we played again the following week, and we've been playing ever since. John will tell you even today that if he could be 21 years old again for one hour, he would spend the whole hour playing rugby league. How do I explain that? And even if I could, I wouldn't expect everyone to understand it. But that's just how we are wired.

So what's this column about? Well, I don't really know.

I do know there's no point in writing a story saying there's nothing wrong with a few punches being thrown on a football field in the heat of battle - even if that's exactly the way I feel. I could tell you that players are the last ones complaining about shoulder charges or the risk of injury but people won't let you get away with such comments these days. You cannot win an argument with those who sensationalise, exaggerate and take the moral high ground. Our world these days is becoming so paralysed with political correctness it makes me sick.

I'm tired of people who never played the game campaigning to change the game. It irks me that media types constantly wave the do-gooder's flag to earn themselves a profile, rather than offer anything constructive to the game. The hysteria that follows certain incidents in our game is mind-boggling. I loathe the faceless keyboard warriors who rage away on social media criticising, slandering and denigrating players. I've had a gutful of football administrators who have zero experience playing our game allowing people from outside the game to influence decisions made on important issues.

I'm frustrated. I started first-grade football in the 1970s. I don't know what it was like before this but it was a violent game when I began. Every time you ran the ball you were belted, punched, kneed, stood on or gouged. You didn't come off the field when injured and certainly not because were bleeding. If you were knocked out, they splashed you with the watery sponge and back into the action you went. If you couldn't handle it, you were sorted out pretty quickly.

Not for one minute am I suggesting this is how the game should be today; far from it. The game is much cleaner today and better for it. I'm simply describing my experiences.

Mum didn't want me to play football. She refused to watch because she couldn't handle the injuries. But could Mum ever stop me from playing? Not a chance. These days Mum watches every game of rugby league on TV. Go figure.

Three times during my playing career doctors told me I should never play again due to the seriousness of injuries I had sustained. I ignored the doctors. I understood the risks and played anyway.

Why? Well, it wasn't because I was brave. To be honest, it was probably more because I was scared. I didn't want to give in to that fear. I didn't want it to beat me. I can't adequately explain or justify why I felt that way.

I didn't like fighting, but sometimes I had to fight. In those days, if they belted you and you didn't hit back, they'd keep on belting you. You had to stand your ground.

As I describe this world of rugby league back then, some of you will be shaking your heads in disgust. Again, I'm not condoning what went on, nor am I recommending this is how it should always be. I'm simply describing my experiences. And if I could live it all over again, I would.

But before you go slamming rugby league as being a poor role model for kids, what about your parental guidance? What about parents taking responsibility for the education of their own kids, instead of demanding rugby league set the standard for socially acceptable behaviour? If the school principal doesn't like what he sees on TV, then tell the students why you won't tolerate it in your school. What makes you think the game of rugby league should have to pull in its horns to educate your students? And why do our game's leaders so meekly give in to these complaints?

Are you also complaining to the sports of boxing, martial arts, UFC, sky-diving, skate-boarding and BMX bikes? What about car and motor bike racing? Doesn't speed kill? What about blokes who climb cliff-faces or buildings without ropes or harnesses? You want your kids trying these stunts? Are you banning your kids from playing violent video war games, or watching sexually explicit music videos? Or do we simply save our political correctness for the football codes because you're guaranteed to get your complaint on the evening news?

People roll out the arguments that a punch or shoulder-charge could cause severe damage or even kill. Yes, we know all that. Every tackle in our game can result in serious injury. If you tried to do what we do, you would get seriously hurt every time. Head clashes and other accidents cause terrible injuries. But we choose to play anyway. If we were to remove all injury risk from the game of rugby league, there would be no game at all. Is that what you want?

I don't like fighting. I don't like violence. But if I play the game, I know it's something I may have to deal with from time to time, in the heat of the moment, as aggressive men go about the business of winning.

There is recreational football for those who don't like the physicality of tackle football. Junior rugby league is as safe as any junior sport on offer. The statistics bear out this fact, year after year. Play Safe regulations protect your kids from the kind of football we see in the professional codes.

Our footballers are constantly in schools, hospitals and charity organisations, interacting with kids. They have a community spirit. They tell kids right from wrong and deliver these positive messages every day. It's just that on game day, they play a physical, combative sport that deals with intimidation, aggression and physical pain. They are paid to win, because people who lose get publicly criticised and quickly get replaced.

Please don't compare junior league football with the win-at-all-costs professional sport you see on our TV screens. If you don't like some of the stuff you see, tell your kids why it's not right for them to do the same. If they behave badly on the football field, discipline and educate them. That's your responsibility.

As one football administrator wrote to me this week: "Rugby league is in the collision business. The NRL appears to be in the politically correct and player-safety business. So the conundrum for the NRL is how to make decisions which are in the best interest of player safety without changing the game. Over the past few years we have witnessed the threatening clouds of change to a perfect model. How can anyone think that sanitising a product built on all-out aggression will improve the appeal? This is poor analysis. The changes seem to have followed the principle that if it isn't broken, we need to fix it until it is broken".

As your children make their way through life, they will face greater dangers, greater challenges, greater setbacks, greater disappointment and greater temptation than they will ever experience or witness on a football field. I'm sorry, but no matter how sterile we make the football field environment to soothe your concerns, we cannot make the rest of the world a safer place for little Johnny.

I don't know where we draw the line. I just fear that the rugby league game our administrators are leading us towards could become a game that eventually loses its appeal. If that makes me a terrible person, well, so be it.

There - I said it.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...e-game-over-20130713-2pwsm.html#ixzz2YxEFqxH7
 

Bengal

Juniors
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Bravo - everything that needed to be said has been said. I especially love the distinction between role models and heroes.

Well done Gus.
 

innsaneink

Referee
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Im amazed at some parents who have never seen the nappy brigade mini footy -they see NRL and imagine its the same for kids.
Usually soccer mums...unfortunatley theyre also teachers and principals....Ive met them
 

Spot On

Coach
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I linked this article in the "Dave Smith is the Greatest" thread but have advised BunniesMan not to read it.


There's no doubt - Gould is a very, very good writer.
 
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magpie4ever

First Grade
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I agree with 99% of what Gould says, the game of the current era is totally different from the game of the 80s and pre - the deliberate violence is long gone but the current edict of sinbinning for a punch is fabric changing of a collision sports. It still wont get the soccer mums to allow their children to play the game but it turn off many traditional supporters.

As many are aware I'm against the shoulder charge as I believe it was a cheap shot and only came really into vogue when the game the went to the 10m offside rule. If you don't believe me, someone show me a hightlight package of shoulder chargers pre the 90s.

I retired in 1991 and I reckon I might have delivered one defensive charge in around 25 years of footy and probably was on the end of one too. Gould should have mention this.
 

carlosthedwarf

First Grade
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I'm tired of people who never played the game campaigning to change the game. It irks me that media types constantly wave the do-gooder's flag to earn themselves a profile, rather than offer anything constructive to the game.

But before you go slamming rugby league as being a poor role model for kids, what about your parental guidance? What about parents taking responsibility for the education of their own kids, instead of demanding rugby league set the standard for socially acceptable behaviour?

The two best points made. Would like to hear some answers for them from the usual suspects
 

Rod

Bench
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Simply one of the best columns I have read in a long time. I don't have anything to add to it because he pretty much says it all there.
 

eozsmiles

Bench
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He asks if parents are offering their children sufficient guidance and being vigilant as to their influences. That is exactly what the soccer mums are doing when they say they don't like RL. Gus doesn't like what they are basing it on though, which is fair enough.

The difference is that Gus is in the game and they aren't. Footy has been nothing but good to him. He has seen all the good stories and everything else. It's his love affair. The future soccer mums are different. All they know is what they see and hear. And if you want them to sign their kids up and become footy mums instead of soccer mums and make the game grow, then you've got to make the game appeal to them as well as current footy fans. Because if they never join in then they'll never find out all the good stuff.

I don't think Gus has too much to worry about as far as on field sanitisation is concerned. No high shots, no punching, no shoulder charging. If they just get rid of leg twists and chicken wings then the game will be clean as a whistle. They can't go much further.
 

Iafeta

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I don't like fighting. I don't like violence. But if I play the game, I know it's something I may have to deal with from time to time, in the heat of the moment, as aggressive men go about the business of winning.

To play devil's advocate, there are a number of athletic contests (contact type sports) where fighting never really seems to happen. And in other codes, if it does, you're generally gone - either to the penalty box, to the sin bin, or ejected. Therefore, there is still the option to fight. If you have to defend yourself you have to defend yourself. You will however go to the bin.

FWIW, I don't believe punching will ever cause a serious injury. Simply because footballers tend to be terrible boxers. A country type game where it loses control and becomes an all in brawl is a different story. I guess the only question then is is there a proven correlation between fighting in the NRL and the all ins that from time to time (every few years) come about. I dare say not.

People roll out the arguments that a punch or shoulder-charge could cause severe damage or even kill. Yes, we know all that.

Must profess I haven't seen the empirical evidence that suggests shoulder charges can cause severe concussions etc. I understand the reports are there though. If they are there, if the NRL didn't act they could be deemed to be extremely negligent in the advent of something going wrong. There are some fairly loaded legal discussions going on in the States at the moment as a result of players being allowed to continue with concussion, come back too early after concussion, and the code itself in not preventing concussions in some cases through their rulebook.

FWIW, again, I'd much rather see the shoulder charge. Its awesome to see. I'm merely suggesting why the league may have done what its done.
 

Kirky

Juniors
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It just happens. There's no point me trying to explain it, so I won't

So what's this column about? Well, I don't really know.

I don't know where we draw the line

I'm not condoning what went on, nor am I recommending this is how it should always be. I'm simply describing my experiences.

I can't adequately explain or justify why I felt that way.

Not for one minute am I suggesting this is how the game should be today; far from it. The game is much cleaner today and better for it. I'm simply describing my experiences.

How do I explain that? And even if I could, I wouldn't expect everyone to understand it

This man is a paid, professional writer. Good Grief.

There - I said it.

Said what? He said NOTHING. The entire article was a rambling mess. He criticises nameless people because they focus on what shouldn't be rather than what should be, and then spends an entire article essentially doing the same bloody thing.

He waxes nostalgically about how dirty the game used to be, then says he's glad the game isn't like it was. He criticises the softening of the game to appeal to Mums, then mentions as a positive that his Mum - who never used to watch league - now watches the NRL every week. He contradicts himself at every turn and has absolutely no point to make. People like Gus have criticised the game for going soft for years, and the fact is the game has gone from strength to strength. Participation is up, crowds (generally) are up, ratings are up, and it all happened without cheap hits and punchups every game.
 

chrisD

Coach
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I'm watching less NRL than ever. Don't think I missed a game last year, certainly not the case this year. I'll probably always follow and watch my team, there's probably nothing they can do to lose me to that degree, but the game as a whole becomes less appealing to me as the physicality is dampened. I would watch the Warriors to see Matulino destroy people, Roosters for JWH, Souths and Dogs similarly. The game is abandoning me to some degree to placate the papers and chase this apparent sleeping soccer mum market.
 

Garbler

Juniors
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Kirky stop speaking so much truth; your interrupting all the necessary praise these wonderful people are offering Gus for the fresh insight & intellect... Sorry cant keep a straight face.

I had a similar reaction - he is an old man trying to understand a changing world but making no sense of the what, who, why, when and how. Jumping at shadows and pointing randomly at anyone who might be remotely responsible for the world not living up to his expectations.

I admire he's conviction but like I mentioned earlier in another thread, he wears some fair giant blinkers.
 

Bengal

Juniors
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As many are aware I'm against the shoulder charge as I believe it was a cheap shot and only came really into vogue when the game the went to the 10m offside rule. If you don't believe me, someone show me a hightlight package of shoulder chargers pre the 90s.
The big hit that Kevin Tamati (I think) laid on Rohan Hancock in the early 80's Test match is still one of the biggest and most significant shoulder charges I can recall. Of course they weren't called shoulder charges back then just like there was no such thing as a 'hit up', not to mention a host of other modern day terms we use to describe facets of play now. The game, as you know, was a lot more rough and tumble back then also - softening up periods quite common so a big hit (or whatever it was called back then) probably didn't look as eye-catching as it does today. But believe you me, they were around - we just took them for granted.
 
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