End nears for suburban NRL grounds

[Ausguy]

Actually no they cant fford to lose any team, they just signed a billion $ deal. If they lose a team they lose a gameslot and Millions of $.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

Actually no they cant fford to lose any team, they just signed a billion $ deal. If they lose a team they lose a gameslot and Millions of $.

They'd start another club in another location in a heart beat. They wouldn't be one club down.

 

[carcharias]

To be honest, for games involving other Sydney teams, yes I do. Whatever decrease there is in Sharkies supporters who wouldn't travel to the SFS or ANZ would more than likely be more than made up by the opposition fans going to the game who wouldn't have travelled down to the Shire. Is that an ideal situation for Cronulla? Probably not, but I don't think crowd numbers would necessarily fall due to a move. Realistically I think any "centralised stadium" policy would need to allow for a small number of games still to be played at the "local ground".

That said, instead of moving to ANZ or the SFS, maybe the Sharkies would consider taking their home games to Hunter Stadium in Newie. That ground might be looking for a new tennant very, very soon :sarcasm:

the majority of sharks fans who go to games live in the shire.

There will be a massive fall in crowd figures if they were to move to the SFS.
The games against teams who are based near the stadium will be ok I would imagine.
But other games would go to shit.. crowd wise.

Imagine cowboys v Sharks at the SFS on a monday night middle of winter?

ghost town.

Don't think the NRL would consider this when they do the draw either.
They never have had any idea what so ever when it comes to scheduling games.

 

[Ausguy]

They'd start another club in another location in a heart beat. They wouldn't be one club down.

NO way...

KNights go under tomorrow... who plays next year? It takes months or years to set a team and club up to play in the NRL.

(Purely hypothetical, wont happen)

 

[The Elephant In The room]

the majority of sharks fans who go to games live in the shire.

There will be a massive fall in crowd figures if they were to move to the SFS.
The games against teams who are based near the stadium will be ok I would imagine.
But other games would go to shit.. crowd wise.

Imagine cowboys v Sharks at the SFS on a monday night middle of winter?

ghost town.

Don't think the NRL would consider this when they do the draw either.
They never have had any idea what so ever when it comes to scheduling games.

With all due respect, do you really think the Sharkies crowds could go any more to shit than they already are? 4 homes games under 9,000 in each of the past 3 years is hardly what I'd call an advertisment for staying at a local ground.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

adelaide paaaaaaandas

 

[Ausguy]

With all due respect, do you really think the Sharkies crowds could go any more to shit than they already are? 4 homes games under 9,000 in each of the past 3 years is hardly what I'd call an advertisment for staying at a local ground.

Yes by moving them to SFS.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

Yes by moving them to SFS.

And thats where we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[Ausguy]

So with respect if our crowds have been below 9K 4 times in the past 3 seasons that isnt an advertsiement or even smart business sense to move it to a larger stadium further from your fan base and get what maybe 5K?

You can agree to disagree but i just cant see how you are right that moving it is a better idea than leaving it.

Until the sharks (and other sydney clubs) are consistently selling games out then the thought of moving games should not be considered.

The gameday loss of patronage to the club is massive.

 

[dangerousdave]

Sharks v Cowboys at the sfs on a rainy monday night in the middle of winter?

Around 2k. Maybe 3k if the sharks were travelling well.

5k would be simply impossible

 

[The Elephant In The room]

So with respect if our crowds have been below 9K 4 times in the past 3 seasons that isnt an advertsiement or even smart business sense to move it to a larger stadium further from your fan base and get what maybe 5K?

You can agree to disagree but i just cant see how you are right that moving it is a better idea than leaving it.

Until the sharks (and other sydney clubs) are consistently selling games out then the thought of moving games should not be considered.

The gameday loss of patronage to the club is massive.

In each of the past 3 seasons.

I admit that it is a risk, but its not like you'd be changing from a successful formula to an unknown (ie if it ain't broke, don't fix it). The crowds are already poor, so there isn't much down side, but plenty of upside. A Sharkies home game at ANZ v the dogs/eels/WT/Rabbits could reasonably be expected to sell 20-30,000 tickets.

Re: the gameday club takings, each club is different, but the Eels CEO was pretty direct a couple weeks ago when he said that the club takes less money on game day. I've been assured that its the same for Saints Leagues. Make of that what you will. I'm not privy to the financials of the Sharkies club, though more people doesn't always result in more turnover.

 

[carcharias]

20-30,000 tickets

get on stage ...you are wasting your material in here.

 

[Ausguy]

We are going around in circles...

From a Sharks fan point of view a home game at sfs is good for no one. The leagues club, the fans and the tv spectators.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Has there been any announcement about free public transport with every ticket for the NSW clubs? I really think it needs to be a priority for the NRL to sort this out with Venues NSW or whatever. It'll make it more palatable for other fans and casuals to turn up to games at the SFS and SA.

Sharks v Cowboys at the sfs on a rainy monday night in the middle of winter?

Around 2k. Maybe 3k if the sharks were travelling well.

5k would be simply impossible

This is the exact kind of situation that the NRL could assist with if it's at a central stadium. Discount tickets for members of other clubs, schoolkids getting in free, etc.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

get on stage ...you are wasting your material in here.

If both teams are going well, playing entertaining footy, with decent weather, I don't see why not.

You seem to assume that 1) no Sharkies supporters live outside of the Shire, 2) that those in the Shire won't travel and 3) that the opposition fans wouldn't turn up in droves (just because they don't current drive down to the Shire).

 

[carcharias]

Has there been any announcement about free public transport with every ticket for the NSW clubs? I really think it needs to be a priority for the NRL to sort this out with Venues NSW or whatever. It'll make it more palatable for other fans and casuals to turn up to games at the SFS and SA.



This is the exact kind of situation that the NRL could assist with if it's at a central stadium. Discount tickets for members of other clubs, schoolkids getting in free, etc.

fug me swingin!!!!!!!
If it were a Monday night game they would not be getting into bed until about 11pm ....maybe later on public transport.

 

[Ausguy]

This is the exact kind of situation that the NRL could assist with if it's at a central stadium. Discount tickets for members of other clubs, schoolkids getting in free, etc.

How many non shark/cowboy members want to go to this game?

Free kids... yeah thats warranted but on school night this is unlikely and to be fair if the parents arent interested enough to want to go they are hardly going to make their way into the city on a monday night just to take the kids.

 

[Ausguy]

If both teams are going well, playing entertaining footy, with decent weather, I don't see why not.

You seem to assume that 1) no Sharkies supporters live outside of the Shire, 2) that those in the Shire won't travel and 3) that the opposition fans wouldn't turn up in droves (just because they don't current drive down to the Shire).

Actually im basing this on the cowboys example only so some of that is fair.

I am told constantly that there are very little sharks fans, and even less that travel. I dont necessarily disagree either, and a monday night in winter away from home would definately make the numbers worse, by a huge margin.

 

[betcats]

If both teams are going well, playing entertaining footy, with decent weather, I don't see why not.

You seem to assume that 1) no Sharkies supporters live outside of the Shire, 2) that those in the Shire won't travel and 3) that the opposition fans wouldn't turn up in droves (just because they don't current drive down to the Shire).

1. There is not enough living outside the shire for what you want imo.

2. As has been disscussed numerous times, Sydney fans don't like travelling, its a f**king pain in the ass getting around Sydney.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

Has there been any announcement about free public transport with every ticket for the NSW clubs? I really think it needs to be a priority for the NRL to sort this out with Venues NSW or whatever. It'll make it more palatable for other fans and casuals to turn up to games at the SFS and SA.


This is the exact kind of situation that the NRL could assist with if it's at a central stadium. Discount tickets for members of other clubs, schoolkids getting in free, etc.

Exactly. They could sell a SFS NRL pass entitling a GA entry to any regular season NRL game making it easier for a footy tradgic to turn up and watch any game.