England admit: We're sick of Australian World Cup referees

[Simo]

52 points against you is not struggling with a ref, it is a disgraceful attempt at playing RL.

 

[cb4]

"We've had three Australian referees in this competition so far and I think we've probably struggled in each of them.
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Oh so that's been the problem of the Poms - the referee - Not the FACT that they suck in attack - nearly got tossed by a minnow team, then get their asses flogged by the favourites and then leak 28 unanswered points and blow a considerable lead against another team that had been struggling a little.
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Not the fact that they suck in defence as well. Hurry up and go home you whingeing reserve graders.

bahahahahaha :lol:

 

[whatever]

How Smith can complain about 3 of Manu Vatuvei's tries is beyond me. Poor reads with defenders committing to decoy runners is what lead to England conceding those tries. It had nothing to do with the ref!

If you ask me, the winger defending Vatuvei was so afraid of an impending clash and wanted no peice of him, he intentionally found himself a good 15 meters in field so he wouldn't have to hurt himself trying to effect a tackle on the rampaging beast. Hahahahahaha

 

[Glen from the Mount]

If you ask me, the winger defending Vatuvei was so afraid of an impending clash and wanted no peice of him, he intentionally found himself a good 15 meters in field so he wouldn't have to hurt himself trying to effect a tackle on the rampaging beast.

Did they have someone on the right wing? Like Manu, I couldn't see anyone there .

 

[butchmcdick]

Australia have made it clear they won't play England with anything other than an Australian referee, so I don't see a problem England insisting on the same.

The interpretations from Archer are all sucked from the snail paced NRL and it makes for dull, boring games. His general decision making is also absolutely horrendous too.

Lets not beat around the bush, Australia would win anyway, but at least we'd have a game. NZ will probably destroy England this weekend anyway.

When did they say that ?

Do you have a source at all or are you speaking out of your arse ?

 

[roughyedspud]

both ricky stuart & steven kearney have both made a point of having words with who ever is reffing the game against us.....they are dictating how we should play...it's not on..


i'd love the french ref to ref both games against australia & nz...that would be funny :lol:

 

[Iafeta]

English referees performances;

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Gf80CVX3M

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bpjoRGt9r5M

Shut the gate, this fight is over.

 

[deluded pom?]

I well remember Aussie coaches whingling like feck about refs whenever the Kangaroos toured the UK. Fulton was particularly good at the "typical Aussie whinge" even when they had won. if you hadn't noticed, Kearney had also had complaints against Archer but the headline is all about how Poms are sick of Aussie refs, no mention of Kiwis being sick of them too.

 

[Iafeta]

I was amazed England got so few penalties blown against them... early on they were laying in on the ruck so long you'd assume they were stopping to have a bath, but of course you remember they're Poms and that's highly unlikely practice on their behalf.

 

[God-King Dean]

But this is nothing...

You should see in the english forum, the match discussion thread v Australia.

According to that thread, there wasn't one legitimate try.

 

[marv]

1. Soccer has a set of playing laws that are relatively simple, and don't have many grey areas that can be manipulated and/or require a referee's interpretation.

Rugby League is a fairly simple game mate, It wouldnt be hard for both comps to play under the same set of rules, either way, we use yours, you use ours, i honestly dont care but it would dispense with comments like this from smith, dont try and make RL look complicated, it isnt.

2. Soccer has many more professional competitions and players.

and despite that they still manage to play to roughly the same rules and interpratations, im not sure what your point is with this one only that it further serves my point that its ridiculous that we cant play to the same set of rules in both hemispheres.

3. RL only has two truly pro competitions, and the current playing laws suit the advantages that can be gained by the fully trained athletes from the NRL.

RL's problem is that the game's laws are driven by the NRL game - changes made to the playing laws to address & suit issues in the fulltime pro NRL get enforiced upon all semi-pro and amateur levels of RL across the globe.

exept thats not true, the NRL currently plays to different rules than the other Fully Professional league, the Super League (which apparently is playing under international rules??) and the interpratations in the UK amateur game differ slighlty to the pro/semi-pro game

This ideal that we should have a common set of rules from the NRL to everywhere else is killing RL internationally, in the bush, in the park, and everywhere else.

We should have one set of RL laws for all of the game EXCEPT for the NRL and the Super League. These two pro comps should be able to make changes to suit their pro comps needs, (and recognise the fulltime trained athletic game that they play) without damaging the rest of the RL world.

I may have misunderstood but you seem to be contradicting yourself, are you suggesting that if the NRL and SL play under their own rules (as they do now) it would benefit IRL?
At the end of the day most of the players in this comp play NRL or SL if both those comps played to the same set of rules we would not be having this conversation, as it mainly focuses on the difference between the interpretations in both hemispheres.

You appear to be including the Ameteur game in this conversation and, for me thats a completley different arguament, FWIW an arguament i am in agreement with you on.

 

[screeny]

I think it's valid to remind users that the phrase 'whingeing pom' is an Australianism developed to mask the inherent crying endemic to Australian RL.

What goes on behind closed doors is obviously private but it's clear to see that the ARL won't play without an Aussie ref, especially since 2005 debacle. I also recall a recent Ashes series when Australia played with Mander, possibly blackmailing the RFL into accepting him post 9/11 when they rescinded their cancellation of the tour.

England have had the short end in the refereeing stakes and the margin of defeat v Australia, IMO, shouldn't disguise the fact that when the game was close the referee did play a part in swinging it Australia's way (I said a part - not all).