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England lack composure when it counts...

dacsinc

Juniors
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The problem is very few of the better English players would be willing to take big pay cuts to go to the NRL. Ellis did. Burgess would almost certainly have been able to get more if he'd stayed.

Eastmond and Tomkins, neither of whom have anything like complete games, will probably be on big money from now on - certainly far more than any NRL club in its right mind would pay. McGuire's probably a good case study of their likely futures. Ignore what fans of Sts and Wigan may say, the chances are that if they stay in England they'll still have the obvious, ridiculous gaps in their games in 5 years time. McGuire looked better than either of them when he first played for GB, yet he has simply not developed the all-round skills he should have by now.

Getting more English players to Australia would do England the world of good, but its hard to see many going because of the money. In that case the best we can hope for is getting them to go to the NRL as juniors for a year and improve them at the key 16-18 age.
 

Billythekid

First Grade
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They need a half who can exploit an overlap. Watching them blow tries with 4 man overlaps was pathetic.

Just look at Thurston's intercept try. That could have turned the match, one decent pass and they could of been up 12-0.

There was another where they had a 3 or 4 man overlap so they just cut the ball straigh to the winger and blew the try. There were a couple of other occasions where they do this.

It's so frustrating watching them make fantastic breaks up the middle and than miss the simple stuff out wide.
 

WireMan

Bench
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We had a lack of experience outwide, when the players develop it will come.

Oh and as for the 'vomit' kicking game. That would make sense except we scored from a kick, so again, when they get experience and develop it will come.

Lockyer wsn't tearing it as a world class stand off at 20 was he?
 

Noa

First Grade
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We had a lack of experience outwide, when the players develop it will come.

Oh and as for the 'vomit' kicking game. That would make sense except we scored from a kick, so again, when they get experience and develop it will come.

Lockyer wsn't tearing it as a world class stand off at 20 was he?

1 kick !!

Honestly the organisation was shocking. Your main problem is that you try to score on nearly every play in the red-zone rather then take a settler or two while the halves get the money-play ready.
 

WireMan

Bench
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Yup, and hopefully when we the players get experience they can start playing percentage rugby more.

We have Aussie coaches over here now, so these youngsters should be better placed.

What we need to do is send over coaches to Aus to get good. That will help the game up here more than sending our best players over there.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

Coach
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Yup, and hopefully when we the players get experience they can start playing percentage rugby more.

We have Aussie coaches over here now, so these youngsters should be better placed.

What we need to do is send over coaches to Aus to get good. That will help the game up here more than sending our best players over there.

Not yet I think. Our coaches became very inovative with game plans and training regimes because everyone was on a level playing field because of the salary cap. Now that SL has franchises, I think the same thing will happen there too. May take a while, but It will happen.
 
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