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geordie_saint

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I just couldn't disagree more, I cant see one coach who I really believe would be a step up from Bennett unless your only measure was him being English.

Spud thought Bennett took England backwards last year from the McNamara era. I personally thought Bennett used the Four Nations as a test event to scope his squad strengths and weaknesses rather than trying to win it. He’s been recruited to win this World Cup, not the Four Nations so guess we’ll see by 2 Dec if he’s the right man or not.
 

Pommy

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Spud thought Bennett took England backwards last year from the McNamara era. I personally thought Bennett used the Four Nations as a test event to scope his squad strengths and weaknesses rather than trying to win it. He’s been recruited to win this World Cup, not the Four Nations so guess we’ll see by 2 Dec if he’s the right man or not.

Yeah I’m inclined to think the same. Whilst I’m very happy to have him as coach I think he could have handled himself in a better manner. There was no need to make a show of himself in the media.
 

titoelcolombiano

First Grade
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I've been on here 10 years now,I love post season internationals,I ramp up the banter,annoy everyone more than normal and always firmly believed that "this year is our year"...but I just can't get excited about this team ,we have the wrong coaches and wrong scrumhalf! Yeah we'll walk through everyone ...except the 2 teams we need to beat to win the damn thing..and most of us all know it...it's torture

Which changes would you make spud? What do you think is your strongest starting 13?

- I was surprised about Tomkins (not sure if injured but he has the experience)
- Bateman is obviously a defensive move which I'm ok with because Bennett knows that defense will win this WC
- The best English half I've seen at international level recently was Matty Smith, really good player
- Is there a reason why McGuire doesn't get picked anymore?
 

roughyedspud

Coach
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The actual starting 13 isn't a million miles away...I'd have picked Ben Currie over Bateman at center and Matty Smith...or mark sneyd...over gale at 7.....at 7 we need a organiser & kicker and leave widdop/Williams at 6 and ratchford or Tomkins at 1 to do the running and razzle dazzle as 2nd receiver..

I'd have been happy if Danny Maguire was selected,even as back up to gale..Danny is and always has been a special talent...even at 34

I selected this squad a couple of weeks ago

Squad

1.ratchford / Tomkins or lomax
2.j Mac / makinson
3. Watkins / bateman center - 2nd row cover
4. Percival / Currie - center - 2nd row cover
5. Hall
6. Widdop / Williams
7. Gale / Smith or sneyd or Maguire
9. Hodgson / Roby

8. Graham
10.hill
11.s.burgess - prop cover
12 Whitehead
13. O'Loughlin

14.taylor
15.walmsley
16. Mcmeeken
17. T.Burgess = 24 players
 
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titoelcolombiano

First Grade
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The actual starting 13 isn't a million miles away...I'd have picked Ben Currie over Bateman at center and Matty Smith...or mark sneyd...over gale at 7.....at 7 we need a organiser & kicker and leave widdop/Williams at 6 and ratchford or Tomkins at 1 to do the running and razzle dazzle as 2nd receiver..

I'd have been happy if Danny Maguire was selected,even as back up to gale..Danny is and always has been a special talent...even at 34

I selected this squad a couple of weeks ago

Squad

1.ratchford / Tomkins or lomax
2.j Mac / makinson
3. Watkins / bateman center - 2nd row cover
4. Percival / Currie - center - 2nd row cover
5. Hall
6. Widdop / Williams
7. Gale / Smith or sneyd or Maguire
9. Hodgson / Roby

8. Graham
10.hill
11.s.burgess - prop cover
12 Whitehead
13. O'Loughlin

14.taylor
15.walmsley
16. Mcmeeken
17. T.Burgess = 24 players

Yeah Tomkins, McGuire / Williams, Matty Smith and Hodgson sound like a pretty good spine to me.
 

LeedsStorm

Juniors
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715
Last big game Luke Gale played he was thoroughly outplayed. Thankfully no one in the Australia team will have watched it
 

titoelcolombiano

First Grade
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Was there a reason given for Tomkins' omission? Is he injured? I would have thought with Hardaker out he would have been an auto-selection.
 

Irish-bulldog

Juniors
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785
2 very soft tries in the first half. But other then that the poms were right in that game. To me the kicking game was the difference, that gale had a shocker for the first 60 with the boot. I was very impressed with englands back 3 and the replacement hooker :ok_hand:.
 

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