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esl tv ratings

knights 2004

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can someone that knows something tell me bout this.
what are the ratings like over in england.
like for average game.
and for GF
and internationals.

anyone have any idea.
and how are they compared to years ago?
 

bartman

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Actually (being a displaced Aussie) I just realised I know nothing about the TV ratings system in England...

All live games are shown on Sky Sports (cable/satelite/payTV), usually two ESL games a weekend. Same for internationals, and (I think) the ESL Grand Final. Not sure if/how they measure ratings for Sky amongst the channels?

BBC (normal/free TV) has part of their Grandstand show (weekend sports afternoon) that covers league. BBC Yorks and Lancs only also show a weekly Superleague show on the weekend with highlights and chat. Am not sure how these rate compared to other free-to-air shows, as their timeslots can move around a bit too.
 

bender

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I also know nothing about ratings over there, but i do know based on internet reports that the England vs Ireland World Cup quarter final match from the last world cup drew more viewers than State of Origin ever has to any of their matches. From memory it was about 4 or 5 million (and maybe more) in Britain which is about the same number of people that live in the entire state of NSW or in the entire country of New Zealand. Something which is quite amazing considering the World Cup was considered a flop.
 

Fairleigh Good!

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knights 2004 said:
so i take it noone has a clue about english ratings....

They don't tend to be published by anyone, in fact I think they definitely aren't as these discussion have gone on long and hard on some UK boards with no one coming up with any answers.

The few snippets we get from the RFL when they are drumming up their cause for the SKY renegotiations say things "Super League regularly out-draws Rugby Union's Zurich Premiership and Heineken Cup".

I can recall the figure 300,000 as an average for a Super League game on Sky with the record being 600,000 for an International once. I can't remember for the life of me where these figures came from so don't quote me on it. Those figures will probably seem horrendous, but it is not bad for Sky, and they do beat Union.

The Challenge Cup Final on terrestrial television (BBC) is somewhere in the millions, certainly one figure that was published was 4 million.

Its a shame really that Super League cannot be on BBC as it would certainly reach a bigger audience. BUT they are not willing to pay anywhere near what Sky pump into the game each year.

Sky has single handidly kept Rugby League in existence in the UK, certainly without them it would be amateurism all the way.
 

mikdalton

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Fairleigh Good you got it remarkably close.

Sport on TV is very different here to Australia. The vast majority of live sport is on subscription channels ran by SKY, Rupert Murdochs company. Sky shows live domestic soccer, RL, RU, Cricket and a lot of international sport too. There is basically NO single domestic game of a season that is on free to air television of any sport. What is broadcast on free to air is the club competitions such as the FA cup, the Challenge Cup and RU's Heineken Cup as well as highlight packages. This means there are huge differences in these types of attendances. Some England soccer games on free to air will get 25m plus but the most it will get on SKY is 2m. RL is the same, it rarely tops 3m on free to air and rarely tops 500k on Sky. I'd say the average is more like 200,000 but this is a considerable increase, and it does comfortably beat club rugby union. It regularly makes the top 10 of the week on Sky sports.

To view the figures you can go to www.barb.co.uk it goes back about 5 years as well. Timing is a problem also. We get the unpopular SAT 6.05pm slot. We once played the Aussies on a Sunday at 3pm in 2001 and posted a 510,000 rating but the 2nd and third test were on a Sat at 6.05 and posted 300,000.
 

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