Expansion voting.

[Beowulf]

Just be honest, everyone knows the best business decision for the NRL does not involve the Bears. I would love to see the Bears back in but SEQLD has so much more going for it. Just think about this.... QLD have won origin 5 years in a row and could very well win the next 2 or 3 as well, yet they only have 3 teams compared to 11 in NSW (including the raiders who draw a lot of junior players from southern NSW). There is a major imbalance of teams between the 2 states as it is. But the talent seems to be even if not more in Queenslands favour.

The Bears bid will be put on hold, SEQLD will come in first.

Have to disagree on all points! The NRL needs 2 teams ready now to maximise a TV deal. Only 1 is ready (Central Coast) and Reds only other chance of being ready for 2013. The Bears will have more sponsorship than any other NRL Club - some yet to be revealed will stagger everyone. They are financially secure and have a market of 1.1 million including the fastest growing region of NSW. Only Perth and Brisbane can compare. Perth have a stadium. Brisbane haven't even supplied the NRL with a document outling a bid plan - they are 5 years away IF the public get behind the bid. Central Queensland needs a stadium and its population is minute, but at least they are enthusiastic.

Thank God the NRL doesn't make expansion decisons based on State Of Origin. I cannot believe you wrote that, seriously! So is that going to be the bid document for the Jets - QLD won State of Origin therefore we get a license?!

Put together a great bid and I'm all in favour of a QLD team - but remember, the NRL is a business. To get in, you must show a business model that will be sustainable forever. You must show community support, financial memberships, diverse sponsorships, equity partners, NRL stadium, merchandise etc etc. The most important person to impress is really the CFO of the NRL.

The NRL knows the Bears have been at this for 10 years now. To block this bid will kill it and the Central Coast forever. They encouraged them (and Perth) to sell memberships and merchandise. Why? If they aren't looking at them as priorities, why encourage these bids only to dishearten over 5,000 financial members and the sponsors, who will walk away from the game. David Gallop and the NRL are decent men and while they can't give guarantees, they wouldn't over-encourage unless they were happy with what they're seeing.

 

[BDGS]

Have to disagree on all points! The NRL needs 2 teams ready now to maximise a TV deal. Only 1 is ready (Central Coast) and Reds only other chance of being ready for 2013. The Bears will have more sponsorship than any other NRL Club - some yet to be revealed will stagger everyone. They are financially secure and have a market of 1.1 million including the fastest growing region of NSW. Only Perth and Brisbane can compare. Perth have a stadium. Brisbane haven't even supplied the NRL with a document outling a bid plan - they are 5 years away IF the public get behind the bid. Central Queensland needs a stadium and its population is minute, but at least they are enthusiastic.

Thank God the NRL doesn't make expansion decisons based on State Of Origin. I cannot believe you wrote that, seriously! So is that going to be the bid document for the Jets - QLD won State of Origin therefore we get a license?!

Put together a great bid and I'm all in favour of a QLD team - but remember, the NRL is a business. To get in, you must show a business model that will be sustainable forever. You must show community support, financial memberships, diverse sponsorships, equity partners, NRL stadium, merchandise etc etc. The most important person to impress is really the CFO of the NRL.

The NRL knows the Bears have been at this for 10 years now. To block this bid will kill it and the Central Coast forever. They encouraged them (and Perth) to sell memberships and merchandise. Why? If they aren't looking at them as priorities, why encourage these bids only to dishearten over 5,000 financial members and the sponsors, who will walk away from the game. David Gallop and the NRL are decent men and while they can't give guarantees, they wouldn't over-encourage unless they were happy with what they're seeing.

Funny thing is that on one of these threads on this site i posted up an old article about the GC Titans NRL Expansion stating that the Gold Coast Titans would be put into the NRL to help QLD develop talent for the State of Origin due to recent poor results. Now 5 years later people are trying to use the success of QLD state of origin team to get more QLD NRL teams?:shock: something is not adding up here.

The new team will attract young players from junior league catchment areas 100,000-strong in numbers. It will sell itself as a development pathway for kids to realise their dreams of playing State of Origin for Queensland.

Look at the Queensland team on Wednesday night and see how much stronger it has become thanks to the development of players from the North Queensland Cowboys.

In the past decade, the Maroons have been serviced almost exclusively by the development systems in place at the Broncos. This was bad for Queensland and threatened the future of the State of Origin series.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/League/NRL-gets-it-right-at-last/2005/05/28/1117129938291.html

 

[simostorm]

Its still quite possible that the Sharks or another NSW club could relocate to Perth to allow the CC Bears and Ipswich. It has been mentioned as a possibility. And Perth management have also publicly said they would accept a relocation.

 

[nqcowboy87]

what does vcvc mean

 

[Green Machine]

Perth is the No.1 option for me. A second team in Brisbane (not Ipswich) would be my next choice. If they go with Central Coast Bears instead of another Brisbane team, I'd be OK with that as well,

 

[Perth Red]

Its still quite possible that the Sharks or another NSW club could relocate to Perth to allow the CC Bears and Ipswich. It has been mentioned as a possibility. And Perth management have also publicly said they would accept a relocation.

no thanks and not going to happen. The WARL had to say that, they aren't going to burn bridges. If the NRL couldn't get someone to move "up the road" to a RL heartland area for $8mill what chance anyone moving to a challenging environment on the other side of the country?

 

[Smiley]

Maybe a new poll is required now.

I'm betting the results would be vastly different if second Brisbane was added.

 

[docbrown]

Really it should be for each individual bid seperately:
No expansion, Perth, Central Coast, Ipswich, Brisbane II, Central Qld, PNG and maybe even NZ II

and then a second a poll about how many extra teams in the next expansion round:
Rellocate teams to keep existing size, 1, 2, 3, 4

Then you'll know the most popular teams and for how many positions

 

[Bro Bear]

Admit four teams whilst there is viable bidders. Two in 2013 and the other two in 2015.

CC Bears, WA Reds, CQLD and a team from Brisbane or Ipswich.

 

[applesauce]

Admit four teams whilst there is viable bidders. Two in 2013 and the other two in 2015.

CC Bears, WA Reds, CQLD and a team from Brisbane or Ipswich.

I would be happy with that.

 

[BDGS]

Maybe a new poll is required now.

I'm betting the results would be vastly different if second Brisbane was added.

Create one then.

Put down all the bids and allow each poster to have 2 votes, they can then vote for the two teams they want in the NRL

 

[jasonstevenswedgie]

cq is not a viable bid

 

[BDGS]

cq is not a viable bid

That is your opinion, others opinions may differ.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Admit four teams whilst there is viable bidders. Two in 2013 and the other two in 2015.

CC Bears, WA Reds, CQLD and a team from Brisbane or Ipswich.

I think that would put too much of a strain on playing talent. I think there needs to be 5 years gap, 7 preferably.

 

[BDGS]

I think that would put too much of a strain on playing talent. I think there needs to be 5 years gap, 7 preferably.

I agree with that.

 

[Goddo]

We need to be adding clubs that generate the most revenue as a priority. The game really needs the cash right now. As such, I'd let the broadcast deal dictate the successful bids.

This would be either of the metro Brisbane bids (Ipswich/Brisbane II) and Perth.

 

[BDGS]

Sounds like a strong plan, and what if they fail? Do we blame the TV broadcasters?

 

[Crusher]

central Coast and WA for mine. Central Coast - obvious, WA to cut into rugby market.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Not posting to put sh*t on the good Bears fan here, just thought it was an interesting look into what Gallop’s thinking.

Two years ago, when questioned about the chances of the defunct North Sydney Bears being granted a licence to play out of the NSW central coast, NRL boss David Gallop said: "I think we'll see another team in Queensland before that happens."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...re-new-city-push/story-e6frerf6-1225995923161

 

[BunniesMan]

Not posting to put sh*t on the good Bears fan here, just thought it was an interesting look into what Gallop’s thinking.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...re-new-city-push/story-e6frerf6-1225995923161

The most important part of that statement is "two years ago". Outdated comment is outdated. The Bears have heard many positive things from Gallop and co that are much more recent than that.